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Postby Genivaria » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:30 pm

Agorya wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
Giving equal rights is social engineering? :eyebrow:


It's social engineering. It's mainly focused in changing the social attitudes about homosexuality on a large scale.

Or slavery, or genocide, or eugenics, or racism. Because changing social attitudes is SO BAD. :roll:
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Postby Agorya » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:31 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Agorya wrote:
It's social engineering. It's mainly focused in changing the social attitudes about homosexuality on a large scale.

Or slavery, or genocide, or eugenics, or racism. Because changing social attitudes is SO BAD. :roll:


I never implied it was bad.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:31 pm

Bundesdeutschland wrote:I now hate the UN for this.

Why do you hate freedom?
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Postby Scholencia » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:31 pm

Rocopurr wrote:
Scholencia wrote:That they act like humans. Marriages are not rights, the European court in Strasbourg said so in the case Duboise vs. France.

Act like humans? We are humans.

Well, every creatures that that act like humans are indeed humans. We can all agree on that?

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Postby Cadaver breadsticks » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:31 pm

Rocopurr wrote:
Scholencia wrote:Yes, they are supposly humans but gay marriages are not a human right.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religio ... uling.html

Supposly? Is that supposed to be supposedly?

Guys, guys, I'm supposedly a human but actually a frog!

Great, now we have to go on a search for a 14th century prince to turn you back into a princess. <.<
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Postby Thafoo » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:31 pm

Bundesdeutschland wrote:I now hate the UN for this.

Guys, guys, guys. I only ordered one homophobe. Why the hell are there suddenly dozens here?

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Postby Tubbsalot » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:31 pm

Agorya wrote:It's social engineering. It's mainly focused in changing the social attitudes about homosexuality on a large scale.

Why on earth would you consider social engineering to be inherently bad?

Are you also enraged by people who campaign to reduce rape?
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Postby Cadaver breadsticks » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:31 pm

Scholencia wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:Act like humans? We are humans.

Well, every creatures that that act like humans are indeed humans. We can all agree on that?

Parrots mimic human speech yet they are indeed birds.
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Postby Geilinor » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:31 pm

Scholencia wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Marriage is a human right and last I checked LGBT's were human.

Yes, they are supposly humans but gay marriages are not a human right.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religio ... uling.html


Hypocrisy of the highest order. http://www.hrweb.org/legal/cpr.html The UN recognizes marriage as a human right. The representatives of the countries that claim to support civil rights are idiots.
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Postby Blasveck » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:31 pm

Agorya wrote:
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Giving equal rights is social engineering? :eyebrow:


It's social engineering. It's mainly focused in changing the social attitudes about homosexuality on a large scale.

Of course you can give gays rights, but will it be tolerated should be just as important.


So was ending slavery social engineering?
Or am I missing something?
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:32 pm

Thafoo wrote:
Bundesdeutschland wrote:I now hate the UN for this.

Guys, guys, guys. I only ordered one homophobe. Why the hell are there suddenly dozens here?

Goddamnit FedEx. :palm:
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Postby Rocopurr » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:32 pm

Bundesdeutschland wrote:I now hate the UN for this.

What a shitty group, supporting human rights and acting like they own this place! It makes me so mad that I'm going to punch someone in the face, grrrr.
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Postby Lupelia » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:32 pm

Bundesdeutschland wrote:I now hate the UN for this.

Please explain why freedom, progress and fairness are bad?

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Postby Cadaver breadsticks » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:32 pm

Thafoo wrote:
Bundesdeutschland wrote:I now hate the UN for this.

Guys, guys, guys. I only ordered one homophobe. Why the hell are there suddenly dozens here?

They're like the chickens in Zelda.
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Postby Industries (Ancient) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:33 pm

Damn Liberals .

I dislike UN but after this I dislike even more .

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Postby Geilinor » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:33 pm

Tubbsalot wrote:
Agorya wrote:It's social engineering. It's mainly focused in changing the social attitudes about homosexuality on a large scale.

Why on earth would you consider social engineering to be inherently bad?

Are you also enraged by people who campaign to reduce rape?

"Social engineering" makes people think of brainwashing.
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Postby Agorya » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:33 pm

Tubbsalot wrote:
Agorya wrote:It's social engineering. It's mainly focused in changing the social attitudes about homosexuality on a large scale.

Why on earth would you consider social engineering to be inherently bad?

Are you also enraged by people who campaign to reduce rape?


I never implied I considered social engineering to be inherently bad.

Straw man argument, but I don't to answer your question.
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Postby Cadaver breadsticks » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:33 pm

Industries wrote:Damn Liberals .

I dislike UN but after this I dislike even more .

Because equality is such an offensive, evil concept, right?
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Postby Liriena » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:33 pm

Industries wrote:Damn Liberals .

I dislike UN but after this I dislike even more .


God forbid we start treating LGBT people like human beings.
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Postby Geilinor » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:34 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Thafoo wrote:Guys, guys, guys. I only ordered one homophobe. Why the hell are there suddenly dozens here?

Goddamnit FedEx. :palm:

They keep on coming.
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Postby Thafoo » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:34 pm

Industries wrote:Damn Liberals .

I dislike UN but after this I dislike even more .

Seriously FedEx. We only ordered one homophobe. We don't want any free samples. We're okay with one.

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Postby Uiiop » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:34 pm

Industries wrote:Damn Liberals .

I dislike UN but after this I dislike even more .

Will you feel to elaborate why this is a problem? :eyebrow:
Seems like a nice thing to do promoting civil rights and all.
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:34 pm

Agorya wrote:It's not much a culture war as it is social engineering. If you want to start anywhere, then some parts of the US.

I'd rather bet Latin America and Central Europe. The weakness of the Roman Catholic Church isn't forever, and this Pope may turn people more conservative and religious with his popularity. When we are done, then you can work in southern Europe, the Caribbean and Oceania.

American states already have too much autonomy. Just a slap at the butt from the SCOTUS should work.

I don't say creating nationwide same-sex marriage. An alternative that pleases and supports the Greeks and betrays the Trojans without the possibility of they arguing too much could be equally helpful. For example, saying that couples may only marry in their counties of residence so that people of more conservative states don't feel like they weren't allowed to have the people's say, and creating a national system of recognization of cohabitation as a family entity with all rights married couples have just as we did in Brazil in May 2011, and then ending the Constitutional prohibition of entities similar to marriage in the few American states that have it.
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Postby Uiiop » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:34 pm

Thafoo wrote:
Industries wrote:Damn Liberals .

I dislike UN but after this I dislike even more .

Seriously FedEx. We only ordered one homophobe. We don't want any free samples. We're okay with one.

Sorry that was me i was bored and decided to order some more. :p
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Postby Edlichbury » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:34 pm

Thafoo wrote:
Bundesdeutschland wrote:I now hate the UN for this.

Guys, guys, guys. I only ordered one homophobe. Why the hell are there suddenly dozens here?

They come as a package deal.

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