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Postby Mkuki » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:28 am

The Truth and Light wrote:
Totalise wrote:ha ha ha ha ha haa ha ha like the U.N can enforce anything they want to do.

They kinda can, since they're supporter by most of the world's nations.

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Postby Pacifica Federation » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:31 am

That'll shut up those Nutcases in London that put Official Anti-Gay Ads on Buses.

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Postby Totalise » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:32 am

The Truth and Light wrote:
Totalise wrote:ha ha ha ha ha haa ha ha like the U.N can enforce anything they want to do.

They kinda can, since they're supporter by most of the world's nations.

because the major backers of the UN would be willing to do something about a country not willing to comply. england won't, neither will the french, russians or chinese that leaves the U.S and the only thing the people of the US would be willing to do is put up sanctions against the "offending" nation

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Postby New Zepuha » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:35 am

The Truth and Light wrote:
Totalise wrote:ha ha ha ha ha haa ha ha like the U.N can enforce anything they want to do.

They kinda can, since they're supporter by most of the world's nations.

Oh please, tell me more about how well the UN handled Africa. Scandal, failure, and escalated violence! Sounds like they enforced their rules real well.
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Postby Pacifica Federation » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:37 am

Totalise wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:They kinda can, since they're supporter by most of the world's nations.

because the major backers of the UN would be willing to do something about a country not willing to comply. england won't, neither will the french, russians or chinese that leaves the U.S and the only thing the people of the US would be willing to do is put up sanctions against the "offending" nation

Nice to see the Canadian's included in that...
which already have allowed Same-Sex Marriages nationwide

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Postby Totalise » Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:19 pm

Pacifica Federation wrote:
Totalise wrote:because the major backers of the UN would be willing to do something about a country not willing to comply. england won't, neither will the french, russians or chinese that leaves the U.S and the only thing the people of the US would be willing to do is put up sanctions against the "offending" nation

Nice to see the Canadian's included in that...
which already have allowed Same-Sex Marriages nationwide

i only listed the countries who have perminant membership and Veto power

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:20 pm

Totalise wrote:ha ha ha ha ha haa ha ha like the U.N can enforce anything they want to do.

And this is precisely why the UN needs to be made a lot more powerful.
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Postby Genivaria » Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:42 pm

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Totalise wrote:ha ha ha ha ha haa ha ha like the U.N can enforce anything they want to do.

And this is precisely why the UN needs to be made a lot more powerful.

The US, Canada, Europe, and the Commonwealth can be the enforcers.
Turkey and South Korea to if they want in.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:18 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:And this is precisely why the UN needs to be made a lot more powerful.

The US, Canada, Europe, and the Commonwealth can be the enforcers.
Turkey and South Korea to if they want in.

Turkey seems to be trying to be a bit more pro-gay (again). Maybe when Erdogan leaves, we can count on them bitchslapping the homophobic Middle East alongside Israel and Lebanon.

And don't forget Brazil, the most fabulous country on Earth. Lots of sexy gay Brazilians to fight the good fight.
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Liriena wrote:
Genivaria wrote:The US, Canada, Europe, and the Commonwealth can be the enforcers.
Turkey and South Korea to if they want in.

Turkey seems to be trying to be a bit more pro-gay (again). Maybe when Erdogan leaves, we can count on them bitchslapping the homophobic Middle East alongside Israel and Lebanon.

And don't forget Brazil, the most fabulous country on Earth. Lots of sexy gay Brazilians to fight the good fight.

Ah yes how could I forget Brazil.
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Postby Faith Hope Charity » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:28 pm

Its not the UN's business.
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Postby Blasveck » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:36 pm

Faith Hope Charity wrote:Its not the UN's business.


To campaign for equality and recognition of rights?

Of course it's not. Equality? Who gives a shit?
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Postby Olivaero » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:38 pm

Faith Hope Charity wrote:Its not the UN's business.

Considering part of the UN's Business is human rights, It's precisely their business.
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Postby Lithosano » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:38 pm

Faith Hope Charity wrote:Its not the UN's business.


It kind of is the UN's business. A large number of countries are systematically violating human rights, and human rights are the UN's business.
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Postby Jamzmania » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:48 pm

Totalise wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:They kinda can, since they're supporter by most of the world's nations.

because the major backers of the UN would be willing to do something about a country not willing to comply. england won't, neither will the french, russians or chinese that leaves the U.S and the only thing the people of the US would be willing to do is put up sanctions against the "offending" nation


You're confusing Obama with the American people.
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Postby Divair » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:49 pm

Faith Hope Charity wrote:Its not the UN's business.

Yes it is.

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Postby New Sapienta » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:52 pm

Faith Hope Charity wrote:Its not the UN's business.

You know, it kind of is, because this isn't even about gay marriage, since many nations actively persecute and even kill homosexuals.

So, this kind of is.

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Postby Liriena » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:59 pm

Jamzmania wrote:
Totalise wrote:because the major backers of the UN would be willing to do something about a country not willing to comply. england won't, neither will the french, russians or chinese that leaves the U.S and the only thing the people of the US would be willing to do is put up sanctions against the "offending" nation


You're confusing Obama with the American people.

Obama is your head of government and head of state. In the eyes of the world, he is the foremost representative of your country.
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Jamzmania wrote:
Totalise wrote:because the major backers of the UN would be willing to do something about a country not willing to comply. england won't, neither will the french, russians or chinese that leaves the U.S and the only thing the people of the US would be willing to do is put up sanctions against the "offending" nation


You're confusing Obama with the American people.

He is the democratically elected representative of our country.
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Postby Hushabagain » Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:44 pm

Liriena wrote:
Jamzmania wrote:
You're confusing Obama with the American people.

Obama is your head of government and head of state. In the eyes of the world, he is the foremost representative of your country.

And how many Middle Eastern countries did "the American people" invade today?

Also, I think that you would find that more Americans prefer Obama's foreign policy to the alternative.

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Postby Zocra » Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:57 pm

Oh no. no. no. no. :palm:
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Zocra wrote:Oh no. no. no. no. :palm:


Why is promoting equal rights a bad thing?
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Postby Genivaria » Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:01 pm

Zocra wrote:Oh no. no. no. no. :palm:

People complain about the UN never doing anything.
The UN does something and people complain.
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Postby Mozzissey » Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:04 pm

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Go UN!

Although, I don't think the US will even glace at this one, just like they didn't with all the other UN stuff like stuff on Human Rights.
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Postby The Mahitan League » Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:04 pm

Australasia wrote:Finally. After much speeches by UN officials (including the Secretary-General and Human Rights Commissioner) over the years, and the promising passage of a pro-equality LGBT rights resolution through the UN Human Rights Council in 2011 and some success in the General Assembly, the UN is launching a worldwide education campaign and permanent global project to promote equal rights, in a sign that the entire world is properly stepping into the 21st century:

*http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=45503&Cr=lesbian&Cr1=#.UfP799JHJBo
*http://www.therainbowtimesmass.com/2013/07/26/un-human-rights-office-launches-unprecedented-global-campaign-for-lgbt-equality/

And here are some related videos from recent years:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYFNfW1-sM8 - UN Human Rights Office video against homophobia
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uaHZWCgGss&list=UU5O114-PQNYkurlTg6hekZw - UN Secretary-General: "LGBT rights is one of the great neglected human rights challenges of our time" (2nd speech on LGBT rights)
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUizJUQIbq4- remix of the 1st speech by the UNSG on the topic - "An historic shift is underway"
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtxU9iOx348 - original of 1st speech by the UNSG on the topic
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd9dGN6dBwA - UN Human Rights Commissioner talks about work on gay rights at the UN
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps5FkwnpCpQ - UN HR Commissioner condemns homophobia
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MudnsExyV78 - absolutely inspiring speech by Hillary Clinton at the United Nations - "gay rights are human rights and human rights are gay rights"; "rights are not conferred by governments, they are the birthright of all human beings ... because we are human we therefore have rights, and because we have rights, governments are bound to protect them"

Hillary's speech in particular left Arab and African delegates stony faced, but received thunderous applause from the delegates of all developed countries and other democracies, including all North American, South American, and European delegates, most Oceanian/Pacific delegates as well as of the more developed Asian countries (South Korea, Japan), along with Thailand, Mongolia, India, South Africa, Israel, and Nepal (this also indicates how voting at the UN occurs on this issue, with all developed countries, almost all of North America, South America, and Europe, as well as the specifically aforementioned Asian and African countries and a few others - i.e. the more developed/democratic ones - voting in favour, while almost all the African, Islamic, and Central Asian regimes vote against).

It's pretty much a story of all the world's developed countries and other democracies supporting equal rights while all the backward and tyrannical regimes oppose equality.

And here's the new United Nations website wholly dedicated to the project, dubbed Free & Equal (a phrase from from the 1st section of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights) - https://www.unfe.org/

Needless to say, as any thinking person would, I am quite pleased by this. It's great that the United Nations - which represents the global community and all the world as a whole - is finally firmly standing up for the rights of hundreds of millions of LGBT children and adults around the world, vowing to protect all people from discrimination, violence, backwardness, & bigotry, and promoting equal rights for all. It won't be easy getting the entire world firmly into the 21st century, but it can be done.

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To give an idea of how the world's nations vote on this issue, the following shows how the voting went in the UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC members are elected by the General Assembly on rotational and regional basis, with each world region having a number of seats equivalent to it's population, to properly represent the views of the entire world as a whole) -

Pro-equality resolution on LGBT rights in the UN Human Rights Council -- June 2011 (RESOLVED IN FAVOR; PASSED)

IN FAVOR: Argentina, Belgium, Brazil, Chile, Cuba, Ecuador, France, Guatemala, Hungary, Japan, Mauritius, Mexico, Norway, Poland, South Korea, Slovakia, Spain, Switzerland, Thailand (then president of the UNHRC), Ukraine, United Kingdom, United States of America, Uruguay (i.e. all the civilized and democratic nations)

AGAINST: Angola, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Cameroon, Djibouti, Gabon, Ghana, Jordan, Malaysia, Maldives, Mauritania, Nigeria, Pakistan, Qatar, Moldova, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Uganda (i.e. all the backward and tyrannical regimes)

Absent/Abstained or suspended: Burkina Faso, China, Zambia, Libya


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Very good news. However, I think it is worth pointing out that the countries that voted against it, while not extremely democratic, are not all because their regimes are dictatorial. Some of those countries try to promote democracy, but are held back by traditional community values. For the most point though, you are right.

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