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Postby Meryuma » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:12 pm

Quintium wrote:
Meryuma wrote:If you try and impose global law? Yeah, you're right. However, that's not the only way to go about changing perspectives in those countries. Perhaps some people in Gaza Strip might change their views on both homosexuality and Westerners if they heard about Queers against Israeli Apartheid.


To be honest, I very much doubt that. With the customs in the region, the religious and legal precedents on the issue and the excessive political power of fundamentalist clerics, I think those 'Queers against Israeli Apartheid' will always be a lot better off on the Israeli side of the wall.


Not every Arab country is theocratic. Jordan, Qatar and the West Bank are all relatively low-key, though far from being on par with Western Europe.

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Luveria wrote:"I'm not a homophobe guize, really. I care about the UN using its resources efficiently, we can't save starving children and advance gay rights at same time."

It's a shoddy as fuck attempt to hide homophobia.


*sigh...*

How am I hiding homophobia? I think gay marriage should be TOTALLY legal, and the LGBT community should not be denied rights or be prosecuted in any way.

HOWEVER, there are a few things that I think are more important than civil liberties (shocker, I know), i.e. children not starving to death. Imagine you're a starving child in Africa, and someone tells you that you don't have food because some of the nations that are wealthier per capita, than, say, Rwanda, by several orders of magnitude, care more about the right to marry who you want than someone else's right to live.


Imagine you're a man sentenced to death for having sex with your boyfriend in Sudan. Meanwhile, white people on the Internet are implying your problems don't exist and claiming the fight against homophobia is a distraction from the "real problems".
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Postby Luveria » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:13 pm

Meryuma wrote:
Quintium wrote:
To be honest, I very much doubt that. With the customs in the region, the religious and legal precedents on the issue and the excessive political power of fundamentalist clerics, I think those 'Queers against Israeli Apartheid' will always be a lot better off on the Israeli side of the wall.


Not every Arab country is theocratic. Jordan, Qatar and the West Bank are all relatively low-key, though far from being on par with Western Europe.

Valtakuntia wrote:
*sigh...*

How am I hiding homophobia? I think gay marriage should be TOTALLY legal, and the LGBT community should not be denied rights or be prosecuted in any way.

HOWEVER, there are a few things that I think are more important than civil liberties (shocker, I know), i.e. children not starving to death. Imagine you're a starving child in Africa, and someone tells you that you don't have food because some of the nations that are wealthier per capita, than, say, Rwanda, by several orders of magnitude, care more about the right to marry who you want than someone else's right to live.


Imagine you're a man sentenced to death for having sex with your boyfriend in Sudan. Meanwhile, white people on the Internet are implying your problems don't exist and claiming the fight against homophobia is a distraction from the "real problems".


And then when you try to explain to them it is a "real problem", these same white people on the internet are saying "I have a lesbian sister, so believe me I can't possibly be homophobic when I say there are more pressing concerns like world hunger, which the UN can't work on at the same time as gay rights."

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Postby Blasveck » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:17 pm

Luveria wrote:
Meryuma wrote:
Not every Arab country is theocratic. Jordan, Qatar and the West Bank are all relatively low-key, though far from being on par with Western Europe.



Imagine you're a man sentenced to death for having sex with your boyfriend in Sudan. Meanwhile, white people on the Internet are implying your problems don't exist and claiming the fight against homophobia is a distraction from the "real problems".


And then when you try to explain to them it is a "real problem", these same white people on the internet are saying "I have a lesbian sister, so believe me I can't possibly be homophobic when I say there are more pressing concerns like world hunger, which the UN can't work on at the same time as gay rights."


Lets all be honest here.

Th UN can multitask. Shocker, I know.
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Postby Condunum » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:18 pm

Blasveck wrote:
Luveria wrote:
And then when you try to explain to them it is a "real problem", these same white people on the internet are saying "I have a lesbian sister, so believe me I can't possibly be homophobic when I say there are more pressing concerns like world hunger, which the UN can't work on at the same time as gay rights."


Lets all be honest here.

Th UN can multitask. Shocker, I know.

It'd be nice if the UN could complete a task at all.

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Postby Liriena » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:24 pm

Condunum wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
Lets all be honest here.

Th UN can multitask. Shocker, I know.

It'd be nice if the UN could complete a task at all.

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Postby Luveria » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:34 pm

Blasveck wrote:
Luveria wrote:
And then when you try to explain to them it is a "real problem", these same white people on the internet are saying "I have a lesbian sister, so believe me I can't possibly be homophobic when I say there are more pressing concerns like world hunger, which the UN can't work on at the same time as gay rights."


Lets all be honest here.

Th UN can multitask. Shocker, I know.


Sure it can multitask. We all know this. But the real issue is how the UN suddenly becomes overwhelmed by the immense workload LGBT rights adds. Somehow.

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Postby Condunum » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:38 pm

Liriena wrote:
Condunum wrote:It'd be nice if the UN could complete a task at all.

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Postby Condunum » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:07 pm

Aleckandor wrote:Good job, UN. And that's one of the most colorful OPs I've ever seen, bravo.
(I didn't want to say 'fabulous' instead of 'colorful' because I'm afraid some of NSG's LGBT community might backlash.)

Trust me, we don't care if you call it fabulous. That's one of our words now, it's okay to use.
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Postby Rocopurr » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:11 pm

Aleckandor wrote:Good job, UN. And that's one of the most colorful OPs I've ever seen, bravo.
(I didn't want to say 'fabulous' instead of 'colorful' because I'm afraid some of NSG's LGBT community might backlash.)

If they backlash they're being ridiculous. Feel free to stand on mountain peeks and bellow the word 'fabulous' if you want.
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Postby Rocopurr » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:12 pm

Aleckandor wrote:
Condunum wrote:Trust me, we don't care if you call it fabulous. That's one of our words now, it's okay to use.


It's just that I don't want to be the target of a butthurt response by one in your crowd who is easily offended by stereotypes. This is NSG, those types of people exist.

Ignore them. Butthurt people will always exist, and they are best either ignored or mocked.
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Postby Blasveck » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:15 pm

Aleckandor wrote:
Condunum wrote:Trust me, we don't care if you call it fabulous. That's one of our words now, it's okay to use.


It's just that I don't want to be the target of a butthurt response by one in your crowd who is easily offended by a playful stereotype. This is NSG, those types of people exist.


Dear, most of the NSG LGBT Community is fine with it. It's become a pseudo-motto for us. Say it loud and proud.
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Postby Condunum » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:23 pm

Aleckandor wrote:
Condunum wrote:Trust me, we don't care if you call it fabulous. That's one of our words now, it's okay to use.


It's just that I don't want to be the target of a butthurt response by one in your crowd who is easily offended by a playful stereotype. This is NSG, those types of people exist.

I have not ever seen a single person on this site get butthurt over the use of fabulous as an adjective for something they consider good, and weren't joking.
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Postby Luveria » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:31 pm

Aleckandor wrote:
Condunum wrote:Trust me, we don't care if you call it fabulous. That's one of our words now, it's okay to use.


It's just that I don't want to be the target of a butthurt response by one in your crowd who is easily offended by a playful stereotype. This is NSG, those types of people exist.

It would be taken as a compliment using the word in a positive way.

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Postby Mkuki » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:43 am

Condunum wrote:
Aleckandor wrote:
It's just that I don't want to be the target of a butthurt response by one in your crowd who is easily offended by a playful stereotype. This is NSG, those types of people exist.

I have not ever seen a single person on this site get butthurt over the use of fabulous as an adjective for something they consider good, and weren't joking.

I'm pretty sure there was a whole "I hate Gay Culture because I'm Gay" thread a some days ago.
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Postby Luveria » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:45 am

Mkuki wrote:
Condunum wrote:I have not ever seen a single person on this site get butthurt over the use of fabulous as an adjective for something they consider good, and weren't joking.

I'm pretty sure there was a whole "I hate Gay Culture because I'm Gay" thread a some days ago.

And that was beyond ridiculous and quite absurd.

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Postby Mkuki » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:54 am

Luveria wrote:
Mkuki wrote:I'm pretty sure there was a whole "I hate Gay Culture because I'm Gay" thread a some days ago.

And that was beyond ridiculous and quite absurd.

I'd never heard off gay culture before that thread. I'm still not convinced there's a gay culture.
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Postby Luveria » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:57 am

Mkuki wrote:
Luveria wrote:And that was beyond ridiculous and quite absurd.

I'd never heard off gay culture before that thread. I'm still not convinced there's a gay culture.

Only as much as there is bi and trans culture.

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Postby Blasveck » Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:01 am

Luveria wrote:
Mkuki wrote:I'd never heard off gay culture before that thread. I'm still not convinced there's a gay culture.

Only as much as there is bi and trans culture.


I.E. Not much at all, unless you willingly become a part of it.
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Postby Redlund » Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:36 am

Blasveck wrote:
Aleckandor wrote:
It's just that I don't want to be the target of a butthurt response by one in your crowd who is easily offended by a playful stereotype. This is NSG, those types of people exist.


Dear, most of the NSG LGBT Community is fine with it. It's become a pseudo-motto for us. Say it loud and proud.

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Postby New Zepuha » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:19 am

Rocopurr wrote:
Aleckandor wrote:
It's just that I don't want to be the target of a butthurt response by one in your crowd who is easily offended by stereotypes. This is NSG, those types of people exist.

Ignore them. Butthurt people will always exist, and they are best either ignored or mocked.

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Postby Totalise » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:23 am

ha ha ha ha ha haa ha ha like the U.N can enforce anything they want to do.

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Postby The Truth and Light » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:24 am

Totalise wrote:ha ha ha ha ha haa ha ha like the U.N can enforce anything they want to do.

They kinda can, since they're supporter by most of the world's nations.
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