NSG Culture and the rules

[DesAnges]

Obvs decent debaters can only be liberal

No, most certainly not, but we seem to lack a strong intellectual, debating, conservative core group as opposed to the liberal core group.

I don't really venture out far into General as a rule (although that is a stance I am changing) but the only con that doesn't run away or start screaming about the Bible two posts in is yourself.

[Regnum Dominae]

No, most certainly not, but we seem to lack a strong intellectual, debating, conservative core group as opposed to the liberal core group.

I don't really venture out far into General as a rule (although that is a stance I am changing) but the only con that doesn't run away or start screaming about the Bible two posts in is yourself.

I could name a few others.

Also, part of the problem is that although we have tons of far-rightists, we have relatively few center-rightists. So you'll often see "TAXES ARE THEFT " more than "lower taxation is beneficial because a, b, c" to give a rough example.

[The Blaatschapen]

I don't really venture out far into General as a rule (although that is a stance I am changing) but the only con that doesn't run away or start screaming about the Bible two posts in is yourself.

I could name a few others.

Also, part of the problem is that although we have tons of far-rightists, we have relatively few center-rightists. So you'll often see "TAXES ARE THEFT " more than "lower taxation is beneficial because a, b, c" to give a rough example.

Basically, less McCains, and more Ron Pauls

[New Randia]

which one is paul and which one is mccain?

taxes are theft vs. low taxes are beneficial...

[Shaggai]

which one is paul and which one is mccain?

taxes are theft vs. low taxes are beneficial...

McCain would be the one we want less of. Since Regnum said there was too much "taxes are THEFT!" going on, you can easily arrive at a rational conclusion based on these facts.

McCain is "taxes are theft", Paul is "low taxes are beneficial".

[Warda]

I could name a few others.

Also, part of the problem is that although we have tons of far-rightists, we have relatively few center-rightists. So you'll often see "TAXES ARE THEFT " more than "lower taxation is beneficial because a, b, c" to give a rough example.

Basically, less McCains, and more Ron Pauls

Did someone say McCain?

[Individuality-ness]

Obvs decent debaters can only be liberal

No, most certainly not, but we seem to lack a strong intellectual, debating, conservative core group as opposed to the liberal core group.

Honestly, if we can get more sane, intelligent, and rational right-leaning posters like you on NSG, it'd be a better place to debate.

[Caninope]

which one is paul and which one is mccain?

taxes are theft vs. low taxes are beneficial...

McCain would be the one we want less of. Since Regnum said there was too much "taxes are THEFT!" going on, you can easily arrive at a rational conclusion based on these facts.

McCain is "taxes are theft", Paul is "low taxes are beneficial".

It's the other way around, buddy.

[The Rich Port]

No, most certainly not, but we seem to lack a strong intellectual, debating, conservative core group as opposed to the liberal core group.

Honestly, if we can get more sane, intelligent, and rational right-leaning posters like you on NSG, it'd be a better place to debate.

I agree wholeheartedly!

But, tell me, Caninope, why do you believe this is the case?

I've been wondering that myself.

My theory was once that NS's predominantly left-leaning population was an expression of America's own inevitable leftism...

Then I realized a large number of people on NS aren't even from America.

[New Randia]

which one is paul and which one is mccain?

taxes are theft vs. low taxes are beneficial...

McCain would be the one we want less of. Since Regnum said there was too much "taxes are THEFT!" going on, you can easily arrive at a rational conclusion based on these facts.

McCain is "taxes are theft", Paul is "low taxes are beneficial".

im not so sure. other than their divergent personalities, i would call it the other way. perhaps i am basing that on their supporters instead of the men themselves though. it is just that everyone i know who actually *likes* mccain is soft on taxes because you need revinue to bomb iran, and everyone i know who likes paul starts cleaning their guns (sometimes metaphorically) when economic policy is brought up.

[Individuality-ness]

Honestly, if we can get more sane, intelligent, and rational right-leaning posters like you on NSG, it'd be a better place to debate.

I agree wholeheartedly!

But, tell me, Caninope, why do you believe this is the case?

I've been wondering that myself.

My theory was once that NS's predominantly left-leaning population was an expression of America's own inevitable leftism...

Then I realized a large number of people on NS aren't even from America.

According to Alexa, most people who go on NS ARE from the US.

[Shaggai]

McCain would be the one we want less of. Since Regnum said there was too much "taxes are THEFT!" going on, you can easily arrive at a rational conclusion based on these facts.

McCain is "taxes are theft", Paul is "low taxes are beneficial".

It's the other way around, buddy.

I know that that's true in reality, but I was clarifying The Blaatschapen's post, which said we needed more Ron Paul and less McCain.

[Tlaceceyaya]

I agree wholeheartedly!

But, tell me, Caninope, why do you believe this is the case?

I've been wondering that myself.

My theory was once that NS's predominantly left-leaning population was an expression of America's own inevitable leftism...

Then I realized a large number of people on NS aren't even from America.

According to Alexa, most people who go on NS ARE from the US.

That's nationstates.net, not specifically the forums.

[Cadaver breadsticks]

I agree wholeheartedly!

But, tell me, Caninope, why do you believe this is the case?

I've been wondering that myself.

My theory was once that NS's predominantly left-leaning population was an expression of America's own inevitable leftism...

Then I realized a large number of people on NS aren't even from America.

According to Alexa, most people who go on NS ARE from the US.

1.3% of nationstates' visitors arrive from a search for octopus sushi

what have i been missing out on!?!?

[New Randia]

for instance my old sig post had the words "taxes are theft" thrown into the gumbo right along with the rest of my moral philosophy.

[Individuality-ness]

According to Alexa, most people who go on NS ARE from the US.

That's nationstates.net, not specifically the forums.

True, but I doubt that the majority of people who post on the forum are mostly from non-US countries.

[The Rich Port]

That's nationstates.net, not specifically the forums.

True, but I doubt that the majority of people who post on the forum are mostly from non-US countries.

I doubt that too.

I changed my wording.

Regardless, I seriously doubt NationStates can be used as an expression of America's increasing trend of progressivism, if such a thing even exists.

We're just a band of weirdos who operate on the same wavelength and found this one place to hang out in, and we always will be that.

[New Randia]

1.3% of nationstates' visitors arrive from a search for octopus sushi

what have i been missing out on!?!?

thats wild

[The Blaatschapen]

I agree wholeheartedly!

But, tell me, Caninope, why do you believe this is the case?

I've been wondering that myself.

My theory was once that NS's predominantly left-leaning population was an expression of America's own inevitable leftism...

Then I realized a large number of people on NS aren't even from America.

According to Alexa, most people who go on NS ARE from the US.

That site underestimates the dutch influence

[Cadaver breadsticks]

1.3% of nationstates' visitors arrive from a search for octopus sushi

what have i been missing out on!?!?

thats wild

you don't even know

[Individuality-ness]

True, but I doubt that the majority of people who post on the forum are mostly from non-US countries.

I doubt that too.

I changed my wording.

Regardless, I seriously doubt NationStates can be used as an expression of America's increasing trend of progressivism, if such a thing even exists.

We're just a band of weirdos who operate on the same wavelength and found this one place to hang out in, and we always will be that.

To be fair, according to voluntary self-reported polls done every few weeks, a vast majority of users are younger.

I mean, I'm not going to try to say that this is statistically valid (the fact that it was voluntary is a confounding factor), but younger people have been known to be more left-leaning in general.

Also, the vast majority of posters who are deemed to be "decent debaters" or similar on NS happen to be quite intelligent and well-read.

[Individuality-ness]

According to Alexa, most people who go on NS ARE from the US.

That site underestimates the dutch influence

Dutch conspiracy theory time?

[The Blaatschapen]

That site underestimates the dutch influence

Dutch conspiracy theory time?

Yes.

I mean, Crazy Girl, Ballotonia, me. There's something going on...

http://www.nationstates.net/page=news/2 ... index.html

Ever since 2003.

For those that were in Gameplay, Dutch Mafia was a term.

[Souseiseki]

My theory was once that NS's predominantly left-leaning population was an expression of America's own inevitable leftism...

ahahahaha what?

[Caninope]

Honestly, if we can get more sane, intelligent, and rational right-leaning posters like you on NSG, it'd be a better place to debate.

I agree wholeheartedly!

But, tell me, Caninope, why do you believe this is the case?

I've been wondering that myself.

My theory was once that NS's predominantly left-leaning population was an expression of America's own inevitable leftism...

Then I realized a large number of people on NS aren't even from America.

I'm not really sure. I know that college graduates tend to have a higher proportion of leftists among them than those with some college or only high school, and perhaps that could play into NS and the lack of an intellectual core. Perhaps it's the loss of conservative public intellectuals without genuine replacements (with two very notable examples being Milton Friedman in 2006 and William Buckley Jr. in 2008), which would fit with what seems to be a rising anti-intellectual backlash within the current GOP. Perhaps its the fact that NSG tends to attract people of more extreme political beliefs, or maybe it's all three rolled into one. I don't know, but it genuinely bothers me when I literally have people that I should be agree with (and vice versa) calling me a liberal.