Amash amendment shot down by Congress and White House

[Rawrckia]

Just a few hours ago, Congress voted against the Amash amendment.

In case you haven't been following the Amash amendment, it basically says that the NSA can no longer freely crawl through your phone calls, internet data, etc. without a warrant.

Yesterday the White House openly condemned the proposed amendment and claimed it would only help destroy counterterrorism.

Thoughts? White House is supporting a policy that rips the Bill of Rights into small squares and wipes its ass with it, and the bill had bipartisan resistance.

[Mkuki]

Do you have a source for this? A news article? Press releases?

[Rawrckia]

Do you have a source for this? A news article? Press releases?

I finished watching the C-Span a few hours ago. I'll look for a source

EDIT: Got one

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/2 ... 47893.html

here's one for the white house thingy

http://rt.com/usa/white-house-amash-nsa-531/

[The Scientific States]

Just a few hours ago, Congress voted against the Amash amendment.

In case you haven't been following the Amash amendment, it basically says that the NSA can no longer freely crawl through your phone calls, internet data, etc. without a warrant.

Yesterday the White House openly condemned the proposed amendment and claimed it would only help destroy counterterrorism.

Thoughts? White House is supporting a policy that rips the Bill of Rights into small squares and wipes its ass with it, and the bill had bipartisan resistance.

I'm going to have to agree with your opinion.

I hope the Amash amendment goes through congress again.

[Helvereos]

Good. Mindlessly searching through people's belongings, history and data only harms a country in the long term. It doesn't matter if you manage to stop a few terrorists if you lose the people's trust in the process.

[New haven america]

Just a few hours ago, Congress voted against the Amash amendment.

In case you haven't been following the Amash amendment, it basically says that the NSA can no longer freely crawl through your phone calls, internet data, etc. without a warrant.

Yesterday the White House openly condemned the proposed amendment and claimed it would only help destroy counterterrorism.

Thoughts? White House is supporting a policy that rips the Bill of Rights into small squares and wipes its ass with it, and the bill had bipartisan resistance.

I'm going to have to agree with your opinion.

I hope the Amash amendment goes through congress again.

This^

[Mkuki]

Do you have a source for this? A news article? Press releases?

I finished watching the C-Span a few hours ago. I'll look for a source

EDIT: Got one

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/2 ... 47893.html

At least the majority of Democrats, and a sizable number of Republicans, actually gave a shit about the Fourth Amendment. Even though I am left disappointed in the Congress once again I''m glad the vote was so close.

[Prizea]

Good. Mindlessly searching through people's belongings, history and data only harms a country in the long term. It doesn't matter if you manage to stop a few terrorists if you lose the people's trust in the process.

Not that politicians are too bothered about losing people's trust.

[Abatael]

Just a few hours ago, Congress voted against the Amash amendment.

In case you haven't been following the Amash amendment, it basically says that the NSA can no longer freely crawl through your phone calls, internet data, etc. without a warrant.

Yesterday the White House openly condemned the proposed amendment and claimed it would only help destroy counterterrorism.

Thoughts? White House is supporting a policy that rips the Bill of Rights into small squares and wipes its ass with it, and the bill had bipartisan resistance.

The NSA doesn't "freely crawl" through anyone's phone calls or Internet data &/c. without a warrant. They do require a warrant, and they get their warrants via the proper legal channels. They record only the caller, the one being called, the duration of the call and the frequency of calls where phone calls are concerned. I cannot speak about Internet data collection.

I would agree with the White House on its announcement.

[Neo-Assyrian Empire]

This kind of makes you wonder why there is even a need for amendments like this to be proposed in the first place. If the government didn't 'rip the Bill of Rights into small squares and wiped its ass with it' then there shouldn't have to be anything like this

[The Rebel Alliances]

Are we really surprised by this? The Us has been turning the Constitution and Bill of Rights into toilet paper for decades at least. And we always get angry about it...for five minutes and then the news starts talking about Royal Babies and we forget all about it.

[Helvereos]

Good. Mindlessly searching through people's belongings, history and data only harms a country in the long term. It doesn't matter if you manage to stop a few terrorists if you lose the people's trust in the process.

Not that politicians are too bothered about losing people's trust.

Sadly, this is all too true.

[Maurepas]

I had high hopes for it, but I'm not surprised it didn't pass. The US Government has clearly demonstrated it doesn't give a shit about its people or their rights.

[Bodobol]

Do you have a source for this? A news article? Press releases?

I finished watching the C-Span a few hours ago. I'll look for a source

EDIT: Got one

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/2 ... 47893.html

here's one for the white house thingy

http://rt.com/usa/white-house-amash-nsa-531/

'watching C-Span'

[Helvereos]

I had high hopes for it, but I'm not surprised it didn't pass. The US Government has clearly demonstrated it doesn't give a shit about its people or their rights.

Yeah, it's sort of moving towards a police state, now.

[Helvereos]

I finished watching the C-Span a few hours ago. I'll look for a source

EDIT: Got one

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/2 ... 47893.html

here's one for the white house thingy

http://rt.com/usa/white-house-amash-nsa-531/

'watching C-Span'

Not really the best of programs, IMO.

[Komi Rus]

I'm pretty sure CONGRESS stands for Collection Of Narcissists Greedily Ruling (by) Endorsing Surveillance (and) Suppression.

[Mkuki]

I finished watching the C-Span a few hours ago. I'll look for a source

EDIT: Got one

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/2 ... 47893.html

here's one for the white house thingy

http://rt.com/usa/white-house-amash-nsa-531/

'watching C-Span'

What's wrong with C-SPAN?

[Yes Im Biop]

I'm pretty sure CONGRESS stands for Collection Of Narcissists Greedily Ruling (by) Endorsing Surveillance (and) Suppression.

That's pretty clever. Well done

[The Scientific States]

I'm pretty sure CONGRESS stands for Collection Of Narcissists Greedily Ruling (by) Endorsing Surveillance (and) Suppression.

[Ashmoria]

i guess we cant blame the president for going too far when it is endorsed by the congress.

i think all the progressive democrats voted for it (well ok not nancy pelosi) against the wishes of the president.

[Abatael]

I'm pretty sure CONGRESS stands for Collection Of Narcissists Greedily Ruling (by) Endorsing Surveillance (and) Suppression.

I see no evidence of narcissism, greed or the endorsement of suppression from Congress.

[The Scientific States]

I'm pretty sure CONGRESS stands for Collection Of Narcissists Greedily Ruling (by) Endorsing Surveillance (and) Suppression.

I see no evidence of narcissism, greed or the endorsement of suppression from Congress.

There is a lot of evidence that congress is a greedy, suppression loving government body.

[Yes Im Biop]

I'm pretty sure CONGRESS stands for Collection Of Narcissists Greedily Ruling (by) Endorsing Surveillance (and) Suppression.

I see no evidence of narcissism, greed or the endorsement of suppression from Congress.

Try looking at them then

[Abatael]

I see no evidence of narcissism, greed or the endorsement of suppression from Congress.

There is a lot of evidence that congress is a greedy, suppression loving government body.

And where would that evidence be?