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Should we eliminate race labeling?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:07 pm
by Terran Faction
I find it offensive that I have to submit the name of my race in various legal documents, whether it's school papers or test exams, there is always that one box where it asks,

What is your race?
*White
*Black
*Hispanic/Latino
*Asian
*Other

What gets even dumber is that these state tests ask specific questions like "Are you black or latino?" WHAT? Are they profiling? It's obvious. Sad to say, statistics do show that majority of black and latino score low. But they want to know that information so they seek it, racially. And they shouldn't.

Oh, here's where it gets annoying. Apparently, in California, they like to ask what asian or hispanic ethnic group you are, but they alienate white and blacks.

They ask, if your asian if you're korean,japanese,chinese, etc. If you're hispanic, it lists if you're cuban,mexican,etc.

But they never asked if you're german,dutch,irish,scottish,english,french if you're white or you might be ethopian,nigerian,egyptian if you're black or african.

I am "mixed race" and I don't like to claim such a title and it's really really hard to answer these stupid questions. Why do they need to classify me by my skin color or genetic ancestery. Why can't everyone be known as a human?

The point is, this causes more discrimination, plus people are more and more diverse everyday. They'd have to be asking for every little racial or ethnic group then.

Should we eliminate race labeling?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:10 pm
by Blasveck
Terran Faction wrote:I find it offensive that I have to submit the name of my race in various legal documents, whether it's school papers or test exams, there is always that one box where it asks,

What is your race?
*White
*Black
*Hispanic/Latino
*Asian
*Other

What gets even dumber is that these state tests ask specific questions like "Are you black or latino?" WHAT? Are they profiling? It's obvious. Sad to say, statistics do show that majority of black and latino score low. But they want to know that information so they seek it, racially. And they shouldn't.

Oh, here's where it gets annoying. Apparently, in California, they like to ask what asian or hispanic ethnic group you are, but they alienate white and blacks.

They ask, if your asian if you're korean,japanese,chinese, etc. If you're hispanic, it lists if you're cuban,mexican,etc.

But they never asked if you're german,dutch,irish,scottish,english,french if you're white or you might be ethopian,nigerian,egyptian if you're black or african.

I am "mixed race" and I don't like to claim such a title and it's really really hard to answer these stupid questions. Why do they need to classify me by my skin color or genetic ancestery. Why can't everyone be known as a human?

The point is, this causes more discrimination, plus people are more and more diverse everyday. They'd have to be asking for every little racial or ethnic group then.

Should we eliminate race labeling?


It really doesn't affect anyone, or matter much.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:10 pm
by Torcularis Septentrionalis
No.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:10 pm
by The Black Forrest
It's a social construct. It is what it is and it's not really the problem.

It's the dimpleheads who use it to lesson the worth of other people......

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:11 pm
by Tubbsalot
Terran Faction wrote: Sad to say, statistics do show that majority of black and latino score low. But they want to know that information so they seek it, racially. And they shouldn't.

They shouldn't... try to learn anything... about the country they're empowered to run?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:11 pm
by Grand Britannia
I wish I could get rid of stuff by calling it offensive.

Justin Beiber offends me, plz throw him back to Canadaland.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:11 pm
by The United Soviet Socialist Republic
No.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:11 pm
by Zweite Alaje
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:No.

^This

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:12 pm
by New haven america
White/Native American

No.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:12 pm
by Terran Faction
Grand Britannia wrote:I wish I could get rid of stuff by calling it offensive.

Justin Beiber offends me, plz throw him back to Canadaland.


With that logic, we should keep Nazis.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:12 pm
by New Libertarian States
The Black Forrest wrote:It's a social construct. It is what it is and it's not really the problem.

It's the dimpleheads who use it to lesson the worth of other people......

*nods in agreement*

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:12 pm
by New haven america
Grand Britannia wrote:I wish I could get rid of stuff by calling it offensive.

Justin Beiber offends me, plz throw him back to Canadaland.

And send 1D back to the UK too? :)

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:13 pm
by Grand Britannia
Terran Faction wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:I wish I could get rid of stuff by calling it offensive.

Justin Beiber offends me, plz throw him back to Canadaland.


With that logic, we should keep Nazis.

With your logic, ban everything.

Seriously, lots of people find lots of different things offensive.
New haven america wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:I wish I could get rid of stuff by calling it offensive.

Justin Beiber offends me, plz throw him back to Canadaland.

And send 1D back to the UK too? :)

Yes, plz.

Man, now that I think about it Brits and Former Brits have been throwing some bad crap lately.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:13 pm
by Terran Faction
The Black Forrest wrote:It's a social construct. It is what it is and it's not really the problem.

It's the dimpleheads who use it to lesson the worth of other people......

Race Labeling from the government is the real reason this whole world is racist, because we continue to put it in society.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:14 pm
by Sardine World
all it is is for statistics
take a fuckin chill pill

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:14 pm
by Inyourfaceistan
Terran Faction wrote:I find it offensive that I have to submit the name of my race in various legal documents, whether it's school papers or test exams, there is always that one box where it asks,

What is your race?
*White
*Black
*Hispanic/Latino
*Asian
*Other

What gets even dumber is that these state tests ask specific questions like "Are you black or latino?" WHAT? Are they profiling? It's obvious. Sad to say, statistics do show that majority of black and latino score low. But they want to know that information so they seek it, racially. And they shouldn't.

Oh, here's where it gets annoying. Apparently, in California, they like to ask what asian or hispanic ethnic group you are, but they alienate white and blacks.

They ask, if your asian if you're korean,japanese,chinese, etc. If you're hispanic, it lists if you're cuban,mexican,etc.

But they never asked if you're german,dutch,irish,scottish,english,french if you're white or you might be ethopian,nigerian,egyptian if you're black or african.

I am "mixed race" and I don't like to claim such a title and it's really really hard to answer these stupid questions. Why do they need to classify me by my skin color or genetic ancestery. Why can't everyone be known as a human?

The point is, this causes more discrimination, plus people are more and more diverse everyday. They'd have to be asking for every little racial or ethnic group then.

Should we eliminate race labeling?


Yeah.

A racially equal society must also be a racially blind society.

I always put "other" and wrote in something stupid like lizardman or Sith lord on those God-awful standardized tests they would give us in school...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:15 pm
by Torcularis Septentrionalis
Terran Faction wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:It's a social construct. It is what it is and it's not really the problem.

It's the dimpleheads who use it to lesson the worth of other people......

Race Labeling from the government is the real reason this whole world is racist, because we continue to put it in society.

That's like saying, "Being okay with being black is why you're discriminated."
No, it's not the cause of racism.
Ignorance and Racists are the cause of racism.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:15 pm
by Lesbia
Good luck with that.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:16 pm
by Saiwania
Race does exist, and it is merely used for demographic purposes, to track trends in the population.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:16 pm
by Terran Faction
Sardine World wrote:all it is is for statistics
take a fuckin chill pill

Statistics that have a use. You don't understand why they use these statistics. This is a certain population of so called "minorities" in the U.S. continue to live in poverty because the government profiles them and encourage eternal welfare.

It's a sick system we live in. They just labeled that George Zimmerman guy a white man even though he wasn't. Because the media knows it's strange for a "minority" to kill the "minority" so they had to caucasianize him for the benefit of racism.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:16 pm
by Alexander Sothis
Remember, if they keep us fighting each other, then we will not rise up and fight them.

The whole racism thing is so overblown and out of hand already.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:16 pm
by Torcularis Septentrionalis
Sardine World wrote:all it is is for statistics
take a fuckin chill pill

wat? u mean that something has a purpose that isn't offensive and the OP is just imagining racism in a place where racism doesn't exist? Crazy.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:17 pm
by San Salazar
Nah. Not needed.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:17 pm
by Torcularis Septentrionalis
Terran Faction wrote:
Sardine World wrote:all it is is for statistics
take a fuckin chill pill

Statistics that have a use. You don't understand why they use these statistics. This is a certain population of so called "minorities" in the U.S. continue to live in poverty because the government profiles them and encourage eternal welfare.

It's a sick system we live in. They just labeled that George Zimmerman guy a white man even though he wasn't. Because the media knows it's strange for a "minority" to kill the "minority" so they had to caucasianize him for the benefit of racism.

You could not be any more incorrect.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:18 pm
by Caninope
Terran Faction wrote:I find it offensive that I have to submit the name of my race in various legal documents,

So what? I also have my height and weight on my driver's license.

What gets even dumber is that these state tests ask specific questions like "Are you black or latino?" WHAT? Are they profiling? It's obvious. Sad to say, statistics do show that majority of black and latino score low. But they want to know that information so they seek it, racially. And they shouldn't.

Why not? Is is not possible, for instance, that this can be used for useful data collection?

Oh, here's where it gets annoying. Apparently, in California, they like to ask what asian or hispanic ethnic group you are, but they alienate white and blacks.

They ask, if your asian if you're korean,japanese,chinese, etc. If you're hispanic, it lists if you're cuban,mexican,etc.

But they never asked if you're german,dutch,irish,scottish,english,french if you're white or you might be ethopian,nigerian,egyptian if you're black or african.

It just so happens that in most Asian-Americans, there seems to be more ethnic homogeneity than most white or black Americans. My friend is Filipino and Chinese. I am likely German, English, Scots-Irish, Irish, Swiss, and God only knows what else.

I am "mixed race" and I don't like to claim such a title and it's really really hard to answer these stupid questions. Why do they need to classify me by my skin color or genetic ancestery. Why can't everyone be known as a human?

Well, the point of a lot of these things is to create a descriptive database and collect accurate statistics. Even if race is a social construct and shouldn't matter, it has mattered in the past, which is why having descriptive statistics is useful.