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Postby Qazox » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:13 pm

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Kate ain't squirted out the great-grandkid of QE2 yet?

She has, you're just late to the party.


I want him to be called: Hiram Geraldo Tyrone, just to troll the world.
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Postby Britcan » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:13 pm

Zocra wrote:Future king been named yet?
It's 4Am in Britain right now, correct?

No to the first question, yes to the second.

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Postby Forsher » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:27 pm

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Third Mexican Empire wrote:I still don't get why they abolished male primogeniture. Without any real political power, all the monarchy has left is tradition. Male favoritism was too outdated for the british, but not the archaic hederitary peerage and aristocracy?


They're trying to give it a flavour of equality.

And, the Monarch does wield "real" power still, they just rarely if ever exercise it because it could invariably cause a constitutional stink.


Nah, the guy's way off base. The basis of any functional system is a willingness to change. It's about updating the monarchy to keep it in line with the thinking of the day. For example, they no longer go around booting Jews out of the country.

Fartsniffage wrote:I just hope the kid is black.

It'd be funny as hell.


I've seen the Goodies, the Queen herself is black.

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You're aware that the Duchess of Cambridge is the wife of Prince William, right?

And therefore falls under your 'princess' qualification as the child will be the future monarch of the United Kingdom.


The monarchy might be abolished before they have a chance of becoming the monarch. A revolution could happen.


Yeah, if the monarchy no longer exists a revolution isn't going to be the way it goes.

Anyway, I'm not sure whether to consider its birthday the 22nd (the date there) or the 23rd (the date here).
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Postby Thanatttynia » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:52 pm

hang up allthe bunting let joy be unconfined etc.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:53 pm

Name the boy "Doctor".
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:54 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Name the boy "Doctor".

Is this the generation? Could it be that we have the TARDIS and the screwdriver coming in this generation?


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Postby Hornesia » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:59 pm

They should name it after Slim Pickens.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:12 pm

Tagmatium wrote:
Olivaero wrote:I wouldn't bet on it. The first time I watched fox news I thought it was parodying it's self. Oh those were simpler times....

Well, there was the time the Daily Fail ran with a campaign to ban wheelie bins, due to them apparently being unsightly for the delicate sensibilities of the middle class, and advocated replacing them with... plastic bags, dumped on the street.

Just right for the foxes, sea gulls or cats to tear into and spread the rubbish about the place.

Madness.

And a recent(ish) article I read going against Pagans, like the DnD backlash in the 1970s.


Apologies if this was brought up elsewhere, but let's not forget that the Daily Heil has decades of form on this sort of madness; not least via proprietor Lord Rothermere's enthusiastic and open support of Hitler and Oswald Mosley's blackshirts back in the 1930s.

As early as the 24th of September 1930, the Mail opines that "The sturdy young Nazis are Europe's guardians against the Communist danger"; "These young Germans have discovered, as I am glad to note the young men and women of England are discovering, that it is no good trusting to the old politicians. Accordingly they have formed, as I would like to see our British youth form, a Parliamentary party of their own. [...] The older generation of Germans were our enemies. Must we make enemies of this younger generation too?"

On the 10th of July 1933, Rothermere urges "all British young men and women to study closely the progress of the Nazi regime in Germany. They must not be misled by the misrepresentations of its opponents. The most spiteful distracters of the Nazis are to be found in precisely the same sections of the British public and press as are most vehement in their praises of the Soviet regime in Russia. They have started a clamorous campaign of denunciation against what they call "Nazi atrocities" which, as anyone who visits Germany quickly discovers for himself, consists merely of a few isolated acts of violence such as are inevitable among a nation half as big again as ours, but which have been generalized, multiplied and exaggerated to give the impression that Nazi rule is a bloodthirsty tyranny."

5 January 1934, the Mail declares that the British Union of Fascists are "a well organised party of the right ready to take over responsibility for national affairs with the same directness of purpose and energy of method as Hitler and Mussolini have displayed".

8 July 1934, an editorial supports the British Union of Fascists by proclaiming "Hurrah for the Blackshirts!"; ""If the Blackshirts movement had any need of justification, the Red Hooligans who savagely and systematically tried to wreck Sir Oswald Mosley's huge and magnificently successful meeting at Olympia last night would have supplied it."

No wonder that in 1933, Herr Hitler wrote a personal letter of thanks to Lord Rothermere reading "I should like to express the appreciation of countless Germans, who regard me as their spokesman, for the wise and beneficial public support which you have given to a policy that we all hope will contribute to the enduring pacification of Europe. Just as we are fanatically determined to defend ourselves against attack, so do we reject the idea of taking the initiative in bringing about a war."

http://www.voiceoftheturtle.org/diction ... php#hurrah

It's would be unfair to use these 80 year old opinion pieces to tar the Mail's current editorial staff with accusations of fascist sympathies, but it does demonstrate that the Newspaper has a long track record of embracing the more extreme versions of the conservatism of the day, however discreditable they subsequently prove to be.

This is a fairly good summary of the Mail, and over a century of objective reporting specifically designed to terrify Britain's middle class matriarchs:
http://www.britishpapers.co.uk/midmarket/daily-mail/


And just to make this post relevant to the actual thread topic, here's the Mail's subtle reporting of the birth of Zaxxor the Invincible:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -side.html
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Postby The Archregimancy » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:58 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
You mean like with Philip the Greek?


The name Saxe-Coburg and Gotha sounds German to me...


Since the marriage of Victoria and Albert (of Saxe-Coburg Gotha) in 1840, only one British consort has been German - and even she had considerable British lineage.

Edward VII's wife Queen Alexandra was a Danish princess. Pedants may point out that her father was Duke of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg before becoming King of Denmark, and that Glücksburg is in Germany; but the House of Glücksburg were a cadet branch of the Danish House of Oldenburg, and a quick look at changes in borders in 19th-century Europe will demonstrate that Alexandra was born in territories of the Danish crown even though the family's ancestral seat would later end up in Germany.

George V's wife Queen Mary was German; specifically, was a Princess of Teck in the Kingdom of Württemberg. However, note that her mother was Princess Mary Adelaide of Cambridge, a granddaughter of George III (though admittedly there's so much intermarrying between German and British nobility at this point that it's hard to separate family trees by modern conceptions of nationality).

George VI's wife Queen Elizabeth was impeccably and undeniably British - more specifically Scottish (though you wouldn't know it from her accent). She was Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, the daughter of the Earl of Strathmore and Kinghorne, whose Scottish ancestors go back at least to the 14th-century Sir John Lyon, Thane of Glamis, jure uxoris Thane of Tannadyce, and Chamberlain of Scotland.

Elizabeth II's husband Prince Philip was a Prince of Greece and Denmark prior to his marriage; he is a grandson of George I of Greece, though the Greek monarchy was actually from the same Danish dynasty as Queen Alexandra (see above) - which makes Elizabeth and Philip third (I think) cousins.

Prince Charles' first wife was undeniably British (more specifically English).

Prince William's wife is undeniably British (more specifically English).


While it's certainly true that almost all British royal brides of the House of Hanover (1714-1901) were German (though note that George III's wife Queen Charlotte was from a German Ducal house, the House of Mecklenburg, of West Slavic origin) - largely because of the restrictions on British royals marrying Catholics - after 1840 only one German married a British monarch. The last British monarch to have been personally born in Germany was George II in 1683, some 330 years ago. Out of the last four married generations of British royals (counting from William back), only one - the current Queen - has married a 'foreigner', and that foreigner was a Greco-Dane.

No one would deny the obvious German nature of the House of Hanover, but on the grounds of the above, the current British royal family are more British than most American or Australian families are either American or Australian.

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Postby Fedeledland » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:26 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Name the boy "Doctor".


Agreed.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:33 pm

Qazox wrote:
Britcan wrote:She has, you're just late to the party.


I want him to be called: Hiram Geraldo Tyrone, just to troll the world.

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Postby Cadaver breadsticks » Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:09 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Qazox wrote:
I want him to be called: Hiram Geraldo Tyrone, just to troll the world.

We decided this hours ago: Muhammad Lee Patrick O'Neill Eamon de Valera Shaka Mandela Windsor.

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Postby Saltesia » Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:47 pm

Apparently, the birth of the royal baby is expected to cause an economic for the UK, because retailers are offering royal baby products such as the baby suits modeled on a royal guardsman's uniform on sale at the palace's gift shop, Prince Charles is selling handmade baby shoes, and Kate's parents are adding baby goods to the list their business sells. This massive boost in domestic consumption is being estimated to reach the $400 million range.

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Postby Forsher » Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:14 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
The name Saxe-Coburg and Gotha sounds German to me...


Since the marriage of Victoria and Albert (of Saxe-Coburg Gotha) in 1840, only one British consort has been German - and even she had considerable British lineage.

Edward VII's wife Queen Alexandra was a Danish princess. Pedants may point out that her father was Duke of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg before becoming King of Denmark, and that Glücksburg is in Germany; but the House of Glücksburg were a cadet branch of the Danish House of Oldenburg, and a quick look at changes in borders in 19th-century Europe will demonstrate that Alexandra was born in territories of the Danish crown even though the family's ancestral seat would later end up in Germany.

George V's wife Queen Mary was German; specifically, was a Princess of Teck in the Kingdom of Württemberg. However, note that her mother was Princess Mary Adelaide of Cambridge, a granddaughter of George III (though admittedly there's so much intermarrying between German and British nobility at this point that it's hard to separate family trees by modern conceptions of nationality).

George VI's wife Queen Elizabeth was impeccably and undeniably British - more specifically Scottish (though you wouldn't know it from her accent). She was Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, the daughter of the Earl of Strathmore and Kinghorne, whose Scottish ancestors go back at least to the 14th-century Sir John Lyon, Thane of Glamis, jure uxoris Thane of Tannadyce, and Chamberlain of Scotland.

Elizabeth II's husband Prince Philip was a Prince of Greece and Denmark prior to his marriage; he is a grandson of George I of Greece, though the Greek monarchy was actually from the same Danish dynasty as Queen Alexandra (see above) - which makes Elizabeth and Philip third (I think) cousins.

Prince Charles' first wife was undeniably British (more specifically English).

Prince William's wife is undeniably British (more specifically English).


While it's certainly true that almost all British royal brides of the House of Hanover (1714-1901) were German (though note that George III's wife Queen Charlotte was from a German Ducal house, the House of Mecklenburg, of West Slavic origin) - largely because of the restrictions on British royals marrying Catholics - after 1840 only one German married a British monarch. The last British monarch to have been personally born in Germany was George II in 1683, some 330 years ago. Out of the last four married generations of British royals (counting from William back), only one - the current Queen - has married a 'foreigner', and that foreigner was a Greco-Dane.

No one would deny the obvious German nature of the House of Hanover, but on the grounds of the above, the current British royal family are more British than most American or Australian families are either American or Australian.


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Postby The UK in Exile » Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:18 am

Saltesia wrote:Apparently, the birth of the royal baby is expected to cause an economic for the UK, because retailers are offering royal baby products such as the baby suits modeled on a royal guardsman's uniform on sale at the palace's gift shop, Prince Charles is selling handmade baby shoes, and Kate's parents are adding baby goods to the list their business sells. This massive boost in domestic consumption is being estimated to reach the $400 million range.


not to mention the boost to the fertilizer industry caused by a a six foot layer of bullshit currently blanketting the country.
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Postby Forsher » Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:20 am

The UK in Exile wrote:
Saltesia wrote:Apparently, the birth of the royal baby is expected to cause an economic for the UK, because retailers are offering royal baby products such as the baby suits modeled on a royal guardsman's uniform on sale at the palace's gift shop, Prince Charles is selling handmade baby shoes, and Kate's parents are adding baby goods to the list their business sells. This massive boost in domestic consumption is being estimated to reach the $400 million range.


not to mention the boost to the fertilizer industry caused by a a six foot layer of bullshit currently blanketting the country.


The economic effects are undeniably there. Apparently we've had 27 women's magazines that have featured Kate on the cover since the general public first heard about the pregnancy, as an example. Probably more now, that was from a few days ago.
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Postby British Prussia » Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:22 am

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Postby The UK in Exile » Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:22 am

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not to mention the boost to the fertilizer industry caused by a a six foot layer of bullshit currently blanketting the country.


The economic effects are undeniably there. Apparently we've had 27 women's magazines that have featured Kate on the cover since the general public first heard about the pregnancy, as an example. Probably more now, that was from a few days ago.


Dentist patients the length and breath of New Zealand will be thrilled.
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Postby Forsher » Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:24 am

The UK in Exile wrote:
Forsher wrote:
The economic effects are undeniably there. Apparently we've had 27 women's magazines that have featured Kate on the cover since the general public first heard about the pregnancy, as an example. Probably more now, that was from a few days ago.


Dentist patients the length and breath of New Zealand will be thrilled.


And Fish and Chips shops. Funnily enough I was only at the dentist the other day. Doctors are probably the big one mind, the amount of time you spend waiting there...
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Postby Maurepas » Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:54 am

*Begins loud African chant*

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From the day we arrived on the planet...

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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:25 am

Maurepas wrote:*Begins loud African chant*

(Image)

From the day we arrived on the planet...

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Postby Agritum » Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:28 am

Zocra wrote:
Southern Patriots wrote:I know, I was being sarcastic. ;)
Apparently there are already some spastic morons tweeting some gobbledygook about the prince having a gender identity forced on him from being announced as a boy.

Oh Humanity! :palm: :palm:

Some people never manage to understand the difference between gender and biological sex, I guess.

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Postby Maurepas » Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:28 am

Occupied Deutschland wrote:
Maurepas wrote:*Begins loud African chant*

(Image)

From the day we arrived on the planet...

Long live the king.

If there were a like button, I would've used it on this post, :lol2:

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Postby NerdCubedGaming » Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:57 am

Katie Hopkins is terrible. Anyway- why do we need the monarchy? The British royal family holds no more power in my beliefs. They are for tradition's sake only. Look at America or China- two amazingly successful countries with no monarchy.
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