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Old Tyrannia
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:42 pm

Tlik wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:Except that it doesn't, that was an unofficial verse added hundreds of years ago and hardly used since. I prefer this one:

One realm of races four
Blest more and ever more
God save our land!
Home of the brave and free
Set in the silver sea
True nurse of chivalry
God save our land!

We'd never add that verse in, would we? But I thought we hated the Scottish, and oppressed them at every opportunity?

Meh, I am half Scottish. But I suppose I have been blinded to the plight of my poor countrymen by evil English propaganda.
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Postby The Whispers » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:42 pm

Wow this thread has gone from generally cordial to pool full of afterbirth in the space of a couple of hours. Nice one.

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Postby Scholencia » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:42 pm

Scots Rebels wrote:

Brit anthem which contains the verse.

Lord, grant that Marshal Wade
May by thy mighty aid
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush and like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush.
God save the King.

Interesting, the bolded part is translated as Heil dir im Siegerkranz" in germans; which happenes to be the name of the old anthem. Though in the German version there is nothing about Scots.

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Postby Old Tyrannia » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:44 pm

Scholencia wrote:
Scots Rebels wrote:

Brit anthem which contains the verse.

Lord, grant that Marshal Wade
May by thy mighty aid
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush and like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush.
God save the King.

Interesting, the bolded part is translated as Heil dir im Siegerkranz" in germans; which happenes to be the name of the old anthem. Though in the German version there is nothing about Scots.

... No, "Heil dir im Siegerkranz" means "Hail to thee in victor's crown."
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Postby Tagmatium » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:45 pm

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:Just another reason to vote for them, then.

Sure, I'll add it to the list.

We might make 2 before the night's over.

:P

Probably not...
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Postby Tlik » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:45 pm

The UK in Exile wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
If you weren't rebellious then you wouldn't need to be crushed.


though one questions the difference between a rebellious scotsman and his natural state.

I'd say "one drink" but I'm trying to be on my best, most diplomatic behaviour.

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Postby Tagmatium » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:47 pm

Tlik wrote:
The UK in Exile wrote:
though one questions the difference between a rebellious scotsman and his natural state.

I'd say "one drink" but I'm trying to be on my best, most diplomatic behaviour.

Rude.
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Postby SaorAlba » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:49 pm

Tagmatium wrote:
Rumostan wrote:
That was taken out of the anthem ages ago, please know your facts.

But spouting lies to stir shit up is fun!


Lies? dont think so the royalist arse licking anthem did indeed contain those words.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:51 pm

SaorAlba wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:But spouting lies to stir shit up is fun!


Lies? dont think so the royalist arse licking anthem did indeed contain those words.

Scottish nationalists are cute.
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Postby Olivaero » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:51 pm

SaorAlba wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:But spouting lies to stir shit up is fun!


Lies? dont think so the royalist arse licking anthem did indeed contain those words.

I believe the particular republican that quoted the verse used the present tense so he was in fact lying.
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Postby Tagmatium » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:51 pm

SaorAlba wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:But spouting lies to stir shit up is fun!


Lies? dont think so the royalist arse licking anthem did indeed contain those words.

"Did", being the key word here, man.

It doesn't any more.

But, hey, why not pretend that it still does?

That way, people can continue to spout lies about their opposition!
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Postby Tlik » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:52 pm

The Whispers wrote:Wow this thread has gone from generally cordial to pool full of afterbirth in the space of a couple of hours. Nice one.

We're very Royalist here, trying to experience all the emotions that Kate is.

That said, you remind me of some archive footage that was shown earlier on the Beeb. Charles comes out of the hospital to greet the cameras, fans and reporters. One woman asks "Did it hurt?"

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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:52 pm

SaorAlba wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:But spouting lies to stir shit up is fun!


Lies? dont think so the royalist arse licking anthem did indeed contain those words.


Did it? When?

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Postby Tlik » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:54 pm

Tagmatium wrote:
Tlik wrote:I'd say "one drink" but I'm trying to be on my best, most diplomatic behaviour.

Rude.

That's why I didn't say-

Oh. Shit, I'm so sorry. I've rather done it again, haven't I?

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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:54 pm

Tagmatium wrote:
SaorAlba wrote:
Lies? dont think so the royalist arse licking anthem did indeed contain those words.

"Did", being the key word here, man.

It doesn't any more.

But, hey, why not pretend that it still does?

That way, people can continue to spout lies about their opposition!


No, really. Go look into it.

That verse was never part of the national anthem. It was popular before God Save the King became the national anthem. It was never a part of the British national anthem.

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Postby Scholencia » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:54 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Scholencia wrote:May I ask a source?

If you look history you would notice that England is something like a twin to imperial Germany. The Angels, Saxons and others came from Germany and therefore the British are still related to the Germans. All best what is England comes from Germany.


Like the 500lb unexploded ordnance still found in the British countryside. :)

Well, ok, that is bad. But you also have to consider that UK declared war on Germany first.

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Postby Afalia » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:56 pm

Scholencia wrote:Well, ok, that is bad. But you also have to consider that UK declared war on Germany first.


They started it. They invaded Poland!

And you don't invade Poland.

On topic, God Save The Queen! Congrats to the Royal couple. I think Albert would be a nice, a King Albert would be cool.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:56 pm

Scholencia wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Like the 500lb unexploded ordnance still found in the British countryside. :)

Well, ok, that is bad. But you also have to consider that UK declared war on Germany first.


Basil: Is there something wrong?
Elder Herr: Will you stop talking about the war?
Basil: Me! You started it!
Elder Herr: We did not start it!
Basil: Yes you did — you invaded Poland.

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Postby Tagmatium » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:56 pm

Tlik wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:Rude.

That's why I didn't say-

Oh. Shit, I'm so sorry. I've rather done it again, haven't I?

Yep.

:P
Fartsniffage wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:"Did", being the key word here, man.

It doesn't any more.

But, hey, why not pretend that it still does?

That way, people can continue to spout lies about their opposition!

No, really. Go look into it.

That verse was never part of the national anthem. It was popular before God Save the King became the national anthem. It was never a part of the British national anthem.

Huh.

The lies get worse, eh?
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Postby Olivaero » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:58 pm

Scholencia wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Like the 500lb unexploded ordnance still found in the British countryside. :)

Well, ok, that is bad. But you also have to consider that UK declared war on Germany first.

Yeah. the British really were the bad guys in WW2 weren't we? I guess we should of just let Germany have it's own way...
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Postby Olivaero » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:59 pm

Afalia wrote:
Scholencia wrote:Well, ok, that is bad. But you also have to consider that UK declared war on Germany first.


They started it. They invaded Poland!

And you don't invade Poland.

On topic, God Save The Queen! Congrats to the Royal couple. I think Albert would be a nice, a King Albert would be cool.

You misjudge Scholencia's blatant bigotry if you imagine he can be reasoned with.
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Postby Scholencia » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:59 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Scholencia wrote:May I ask a source?

If you look history you would notice that England is something like a twin to imperial Germany. The Angels, Saxons and others came from Germany and therefore the British are still related to the Germans. All best what is England comes from Germany.

And thus the Anglophobic sentiment pours fourth.
"Heil dir im Siegerkranz" (German for "Hail to Thee in Victor's Crown") was from 1871 to 1918 the unofficial national anthem of the German Empire. Previously, it had been the anthem of Prussia, the melody of the hymn derived from the British anthem "God Save the Queen".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heil_dir_im_Siegerkranz

Saying Germany and England are similar = anglophobic?????

It is a historical fact. One of the ancestors of the englishmans are Saxons and in Germay there is a province called Saxony (Sachsen). This only show that the two are same.

The event which started to ramble to two groups are the Norman conquest of England. The norman ruling class even establish a class system (almost apartheid) between themself and the major germanic speaking people of Britain.

also, granted for the anthem. You are right.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:59 pm

Olivaero wrote:
Scholencia wrote:Well, ok, that is bad. But you also have to consider that UK declared war on Germany first.

Yeah. the British really were the bad guys in WW2 weren't we? I guess we should of just let Germany have it's own way...

You've clearly never read the Daily Mail.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:01 pm

Scholencia wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:And thus the Anglophobic sentiment pours fourth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heil_dir_im_Siegerkranz

Saying Germany and England are similar = anglophobic?????

It is a historical fact. One of the ancestors of the englishmans are Saxons and in Germay there is a province called Saxony (Sachsen). This only show that the two are same.

The event which started to ramble to two groups are the Norman conquest of England. The norman ruling class even establish a class system (almost apartheid) between themself and the major germanic speaking people of Britain.

also, granted for the anthem. You are right.

All best what is England comes from Germany.

Implying that England's only merits aren't its own, and that it doesn't have its own independent culture.
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Ifreann wrote:Knox: /ˈɡɪl.ɡə.mɛʃ/
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Postby Tagmatium » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:02 pm

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Scholencia wrote:Saying Germany and England are similar = anglophobic?????

It is a historical fact. One of the ancestors of the englishmans are Saxons and in Germay there is a province called Saxony (Sachsen). This only show that the two are same.

The event which started to ramble to two groups are the Norman conquest of England. The norman ruling class even establish a class system (almost apartheid) between themself and the major germanic speaking people of Britain.

also, granted for the anthem. You are right.

All best what is England comes from Germany.

Implying that England's only merits aren't its own, and that it doesn't have its own independent culture.

We have... culture?

I thought all we had was drinking warm beer and Morris men.
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