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Postby The Land of Truth » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:56 pm

Ayreonia wrote:
Ifreann wrote::O And now you're making porn! David Cameron would be disappointed.



We do. We understand that trying to be funny when suggesting that society dictate what women wear doesn't make it funny. Do you understand this?

"Ooh, look at how politically correct I am. I am, in fact, so politically correct that I'll get offended by a comment that wasn't aimed at me, made by a person who agrees with me, whose said comment was making fun of people who think rape is okay."

ffs

Indeed.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:56 pm

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The Parkus Empire wrote:It was. It was fucking stupid. And now you have this genius joking about it being the solution to rape apologists, and, like no, it fucking isn't.

How about women dress how they want, whether that's a burka or nude at the beach, and no one "lets" them or "makes" them do shit, because it's none of anyone's fucking business but the woman wearing the clothes (or lack thereof).

You're talking to a fucking Libertarian, so think before you speak. (I'm already in favor of all those things.)

The only thing you've done is display your utter ignorance, and lack of understanding, of how humor works and its importance to the human condition. If you can't learn to take a joke (or understand why it's necessary to have them), then GTFO.

It's a sexist joke. Just because it's a joke doesn't mean it gets an obligatory pass for being sexist.
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Postby Dakini » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:57 pm

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Dakini wrote:I actually think he went with the "here's the only woman under the age of 40 who is also hired by an employment agency and therefore non-unionized (and not even employed by my factory) so I don't have to worry about repercussions if I describe the plot of porn movies to her while she tries to eat her lunch in the break room and make inappropriate comments while blatantly staring at her chest."

No worries, I only had the job for a bit at the end of the summer one year and I quit to go back to school after a few weeks, which I was going to do anyway.

Still extremely sickening--and depressing. Yeagh.

Yeah. It's the only job I've had where that's happened *knock on wood* and the job was terrible for a lot of other reasons (see also: I had to work in a warehouse without air conditioning and be on the floor by 7 am).

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Postby The Land of Truth » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:57 pm

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Ayreonia wrote:Do you even English? I never said it would be a solution to rape apologists. Jesus.

If a woman wants to be offended by my comment, sure. You don't have to do it in their stead.

It was sexist and stupid. I don't need to be a woman to find it fucking annoying any more than I have to be black to find racist jokes annoying.

Translation: "People shouldn't be aloud to exercise free speech, because it's harmful." Even though it's fucking not.
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Postby The Land of Truth » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:58 pm

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The Land of Truth wrote:You're talking to a fucking Libertarian, so think before you speak. (I'm already in favor of all those things.)

The only thing you've done is display your utter ignorance, and lack of understanding, of how humor works and its importance to the human condition. If you can't learn to take a joke (or understand why it's necessary to have them), then GTFO.

It's a sexist joke. Just because it's a joke doesn't mean it gets an obligatory pass for being sexist.

So, no one's allowed to make jokes ever again, because you find them offensive? Got it.
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Postby Dakini » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:59 pm

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Dakini wrote:He got pics. ;)

:O And now you're making porn! David Cameron would be disappointed.

Nah, porn is the stuff I make for him that I won't send via gmail and have to transfer in person.

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Postby Ayreonia » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:59 pm

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Ayreonia wrote:Do you even English? I never said it would be a solution to rape apologists. Jesus.

If a woman wants to be offended by my comment, sure. You don't have to do it in their stead.

It was sexist and stupid. I don't need to be a woman to find it fucking annoying any more than I have to be black to find racist jokes annoying.

The fuck? Sexist? I didn't even mention sexes.
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Postby Dakini » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:59 pm

The Land of Truth wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:It's a sexist joke. Just because it's a joke doesn't mean it gets an obligatory pass for being sexist.

So, no one's allowed to make jokes ever again, because you find them offensive? Got it.

No. Just get a better sense of humour. Duh.

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Postby Thanatttynia » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:00 pm

NO:O
Genuinely, wat. This is so bad:(
Why? My peers and I first encountered porn when we were around 8 or 9, it didn't steal our childhood, we aren't twisted perverts. Just... Ugh.
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Postby The Land of Truth » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:00 pm

Dakini wrote:
The Land of Truth wrote:So, no one's allowed to make jokes ever again, because you find them offensive? Got it.

No. Just get a better sense of humour. Duh.

Not the point.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:00 pm

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Zweite Alaje wrote:Why would that matter? A voice actor isn't physically acting out anything.

No, but it has to do with whether you're okay with phone sex.

Frankly, this is how it looks you me: you got a fetish for cartoons. You want to call people who are into real people sick or whatever, but make being into cartoons perfectly acceptable. You object to sexualization even outside of porn, unless it's your fetish. In fact, frequently thinking about sex with real people is perfectly normal and healthy. People should not be compelled to conform to your fetish.

I don't have any fetishes. Thinking about sex is normal, true, thinking about it frequently is not.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:01 pm

The Land of Truth wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:It was sexist and stupid. I don't need to be a woman to find it fucking annoying any more than I have to be black to find racist jokes annoying.

Translation: "People shouldn't be aloud to exercise free speech, because it's harmful." Even though it's fucking not.

More like "they may have the right to say it, but that doesn't mean they should say it."
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:01 pm

The Land of Truth wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:It was sexist and stupid. I don't need to be a woman to find it fucking annoying any more than I have to be black to find racist jokes annoying.

Translation: "People shouldn't be aloud to exercise free speech, because it's harmful." Even though it's fucking not.

Where did I say I thought you should be censored?
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Postby Dakini » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:02 pm

The Land of Truth wrote:
Dakini wrote:No. Just get a better sense of humour. Duh.

Not the point.

Yeah it is. It's totally possible to make jokes without being shitty to people with less privilege than you.

In fact, it's not only possible, but results in jokes that are actually funny.

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Postby The Land of Truth » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:02 pm

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The Land of Truth wrote:Translation: "People shouldn't be aloud to exercise free speech, because it's harmful." Even though it's fucking not.

Where did I say I thought you should be censored?

You've implied it in every post. You got mad because the joke was about women--that's literally the only point you raised about it.
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Postby Shaggai » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:02 pm

The Land of Truth wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:It was sexist and stupid. I don't need to be a woman to find it fucking annoying any more than I have to be black to find racist jokes annoying.

Translation: "People shouldn't be aloud to exercise free speech, because it's harmful." Even though it's fucking not.

Wait, wasn't your joke sarcastic? Why don't you point that out? I was mostly agreeing with you until this post.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:02 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:No, but it has to do with whether you're okay with phone sex.

Frankly, this is how it looks you me: you got a fetish for cartoons. You want to call people who are into real people sick or whatever, but make being into cartoons perfectly acceptable. You object to sexualization even outside of porn, unless it's your fetish. In fact, frequently thinking about sex with real people is perfectly normal and healthy. People should not be compelled to conform to your fetish.

I don't have any fetishes. Thinking about sex is normal, true, thinking about it frequently is not.

Imma need some sauce on this deliciousness.
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Postby Dakini » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:02 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:No, but it has to do with whether you're okay with phone sex.

Frankly, this is how it looks you me: you got a fetish for cartoons. You want to call people who are into real people sick or whatever, but make being into cartoons perfectly acceptable. You object to sexualization even outside of porn, unless it's your fetish. In fact, frequently thinking about sex with real people is perfectly normal and healthy. People should not be compelled to conform to your fetish.

I don't have any fetishes. Thinking about sex is normal, true, thinking about it frequently is not.

What do you define as "frequent"?

I'm honestly curious here.

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Postby The Land of Truth » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:03 pm

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The Land of Truth wrote:Not the point.

Yeah it is. It's totally possible to make jokes without being shitty to people with less privilege than you.

In fact, it's not only possible, but results in jokes that are actually funny.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_comedy

Not to mention the fact that humor subjective.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:03 pm

The Land of Truth wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Where did I say I thought you should be censored?

You've implied it in every post. You got mad because the joke was about women--that's literally the only point you raised about it.

And you got mad at my getting mad, so you clearly want to censor anger. :roll:
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Postby Dakini » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:03 pm

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Zweite Alaje wrote:I don't have any fetishes. Thinking about sex is normal, true, thinking about it frequently is not.

Imma need some sauce on this deliciousness.

To be fair, if "frequent" is "more than once every 10 seconds" then that might not be normal for most people (except possibly teenagers).

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Postby The Land of Truth » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:04 pm

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The Land of Truth wrote:Translation: "People shouldn't be aloud to exercise free speech, because it's harmful." Even though it's fucking not.

Wait, wasn't your joke sarcastic? Why don't you point that out? I was mostly agreeing with you until this post.

It was. And I pointed that out. They didn't care.
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Postby The Land of Truth » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:05 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
The Land of Truth wrote:You've implied it in every post. You got mad because the joke was about women--that's literally the only point you raised about it.

And you got mad at my getting mad, so you clearly want to censor anger. :roll:

That'd be nice, actually. But it goes against my beliefs, so, no.
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Postby Dakini » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:06 pm

The Land of Truth wrote:
Dakini wrote:Yeah it is. It's totally possible to make jokes without being shitty to people with less privilege than you.

In fact, it's not only possible, but results in jokes that are actually funny.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_comedy

Not to mention the fact that humor subjective.

Black humour doesn't have anything to do with shitting on people with less privilege than you. It's dark humour (e.g. a joke about death and destruction and things that are traditionally depressing).

This is entirely different from being like "hurr hurr women should make me a sammich" or "women should be prohibited from wearing pants because then we don't have to imagine what their genitals look like".

Read some Vonnegut and come back when you have some idea of what black humour is before you try claiming you know what it is.
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Postby Shaggai » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:08 pm

The Land of Truth wrote:
Shaggai wrote:Wait, wasn't your joke sarcastic? Why don't you point that out? I was mostly agreeing with you until this post.

It was. And I pointed that out. They didn't care.

You said it was a joke, not necessarily that it was sarcastic. The two are not always synonymous.
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