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Postby The Land of Truth » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:30 pm

Dakini wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:It's not so much that your clothing choice isn't based on a decision to attract people, is that it's not based on a decision to not attract people. Which makes you a slut.

Heh. It's almost like he doesn't know that women get checked out for wearing jeans and a t-shirt.

Hell, the one job I had where I was sexually harassed, the guy who harassed me did so while I was wearing a baggy t-shirt, baggy jeans, steel-toed boots and safety glasses (go factory jobs).

Personally, I find sweatpants or tight leggings to be more attractive than miniskirts (don't know why), so why don't we just make women not wear pants at all and take away the imagination! Amiright? :p
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:30 pm

The Land of Truth wrote:
Dakini wrote:Heh. It's almost like he doesn't know that women get checked out for wearing jeans and a t-shirt.

Hell, the one job I had where I was sexually harassed, the guy who harassed me did so while I was wearing a baggy t-shirt, baggy jeans, steel-toed boots and safety glasses (go factory jobs).

Personally, I find sweatpants or tight leggings to be more attractive than miniskirts (don't know why), so why don't we just make women not wear pants at all and take away the imagination! Amiright? :p

How about no.
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Postby Blakk Metal » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:30 pm

Finally Brits will know how bad pedophiles feel when they can't kiddie pr0n with hot kids.

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Postby The Land of Truth » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:30 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
The Land of Truth wrote:Personally, I find sweatpants or tight leggings to be more attractive than miniskirts (don't know why), so why don't we just make women not wear pants at all and take away the imagination! Amiright? :p

How about no.

It was a joke, dude.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:33 pm

The Land of Truth wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:How about no.

It was a joke, dude.

I'm aware of that. I personally found it irritating and sexist.
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Postby Ayreonia » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:33 pm

The Land of Truth wrote:
Dakini wrote:Heh. It's almost like he doesn't know that women get checked out for wearing jeans and a t-shirt.

Hell, the one job I had where I was sexually harassed, the guy who harassed me did so while I was wearing a baggy t-shirt, baggy jeans, steel-toed boots and safety glasses (go factory jobs).

Personally, I find sweatpants or tight leggings to be more attractive than miniskirts (don't know why), so why don't we just make women not wear pants at all and take away the imagination! Amiright? :p

At least it would shoot down the terrible "she was dressed so and so, so she was asking for it" excuse so loved by rape apologists.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:34 pm

Ayreonia wrote:
The Land of Truth wrote:Personally, I find sweatpants or tight leggings to be more attractive than miniskirts (don't know why), so why don't we just make women not wear pants at all and take away the imagination! Amiright? :p

At least it would shoot down the terrible "she was dressed so and so, so she was asking for it" excuse so loved by rape apologists.

So not worth it at all.

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Postby The Land of Truth » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:35 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
The Land of Truth wrote:It was a joke, dude.

I'm aware of that. I personally found it irritating and sexist.

It wasn't supposed to be. :(
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Postby Dakini » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:36 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Dakini wrote:Heh. It's almost like he doesn't know that women get checked out for wearing jeans and a t-shirt.

Hell, the one job I had where I was sexually harassed, the guy who harassed me did so while I was wearing a baggy t-shirt, baggy jeans, steel-toed boots and safety glasses (go factory jobs).

You probably gave him the impression that you had an identity as something (or someone!) other than a sex object--he was just trying to correct you, you see.

Sorry about the experience, though. It's unfortunately all too common.... :(

I actually think he went with the "here's the only woman under the age of 40 who is also hired by an employment agency and therefore non-unionized (and not even employed by my factory) so I don't have to worry about repercussions if I describe the plot of porn movies to her while she tries to eat her lunch in the break room and make inappropriate comments while blatantly staring at her chest."

No worries, I only had the job for a bit at the end of the summer one year and I quit to go back to school after a few weeks, which I was going to do anyway.
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Postby Dakini » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:38 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Dakini wrote:Yeah.

Granted, for a video game character my tits aren't hanging out of my shirt nearly enough.

Then you may be a real woman, and therefore vile and degenerate for exposing your legs. Those are for your husband! Or something!

He got pics. ;)

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Postby Ayreonia » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:38 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Ayreonia wrote:At least it would shoot down the terrible "she was dressed so and so, so she was asking for it" excuse so loved by rape apologists.

So not worth it at all.

Didn't say it's a good idea. I just pointed out something positive it would result in.
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Postby The Land of Truth » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:39 pm

Ayreonia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:So not worth it at all.

Didn't say it's a good idea. I just pointed out something positive it would result in.

You people don't understand how humor works, do you?
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:40 pm

The Land of Truth wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:I'm aware of that. I personally found it irritating and sexist.

It wasn't supposed to be. :(

It was. It was fucking stupid. And now you have this genius joking about it being the solution to rape apologists, and, like no, it fucking isn't.

How about women dress how they want, whether that's a burka or nude at the beach, and no one "lets" them or "makes" them do shit, because it's none of anyone's fucking business but the woman wearing the clothes (or lack thereof).
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:43 pm

Dakini wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:You probably gave him the impression that you had an identity as something (or someone!) other than a sex object--he was just trying to correct you, you see.

Sorry about the experience, though. It's unfortunately all too common.... :(

I actually think he went with the "here's the only woman under the age of 40 who is also hired by an employment agency and therefore non-unionized (and not even employed by my factory) so I don't have to worry about repercussions if I describe the plot of porn movies to her while she tries to eat her lunch in the break room and make inappropriate comments while blatantly staring at her chest."

No worries, I only had the job for a bit at the end of the summer one year and I quit to go back to school after a few weeks, which I was going to do anyway.

Still extremely sickening--and depressing. Yeagh.
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Postby Marcurix » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:43 pm

So we're not expecting parents to educate their children anymore or what?
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:44 pm

Dakini wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Then you may be a real woman, and therefore vile and degenerate for exposing your legs. Those are for your husband! Or something!

He got pics. ;)

:O And now you're making porn! David Cameron would be disappointed.


The Land of Truth wrote:
Ayreonia wrote:Didn't say it's a good idea. I just pointed out something positive it would result in.

You people don't understand how humor works, do you?

We do. We understand that trying to be funny when suggesting that society dictate what women wear doesn't make it funny. Do you understand this?

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Postby The Land of Truth » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:44 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
The Land of Truth wrote:It wasn't supposed to be. :(

It was. It was fucking stupid. And now you have this genius joking about it being the solution to rape apologists, and, like no, it fucking isn't.

How about women dress how they want, whether that's a burka or nude at the beach, and no one "lets" them or "makes" them do shit, because it's none of anyone's fucking business but the woman wearing the clothes (or lack thereof).

You're talking to a fucking Libertarian, so think before you speak. (I'm already in favor of all those things.)

The only thing you've done is display your utter ignorance, and lack of understanding, of how humor works and its importance to the human condition. If you can't learn to take a joke (or understand why it's necessary to have them), then GTFO.
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Postby The Land of Truth » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:45 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Dakini wrote:He got pics. ;)

:O And now you're making porn! David Cameron would be disappointed.


The Land of Truth wrote:You people don't understand how humor works, do you?

We do. We understand that trying to be funny when suggesting that society dictate what women wear doesn't make it funny. Do you understand this?

So, instead you thinks its necessary to dictate what I can or can't be serious about? Okay, seems fair.
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Postby Ayreonia » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:46 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
The Land of Truth wrote:It wasn't supposed to be. :(

It was. It was fucking stupid. And now you have this genius joking about it being the solution to rape apologists, and, like no, it fucking isn't.

How about women dress how they want, whether that's a burka or nude at the beach, and no one "lets" them or "makes" them do shit, because it's none of anyone's fucking business but the woman wearing the clothes (or lack thereof).

Do you even English? I never said it would be a solution to rape apologists. Jesus.

If a woman wants to be offended by my comment, sure. You don't have to do it in their stead.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:48 pm

The Land of Truth wrote:
Ifreann wrote::O And now you're making porn! David Cameron would be disappointed.



We do. We understand that trying to be funny when suggesting that society dictate what women wear doesn't make it funny. Do you understand this?

So, instead you thinks its necessary to dictate what I can or can't be serious about? Okay, seems fair.

No one's saying you can't try to be funny. You're just failing to actually be funny. And getting your knickers awful twisted at this being pointed out to you.

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Postby The Land of Truth » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:50 pm

Ifreann wrote:
The Land of Truth wrote:So, instead you thinks its necessary to dictate what I can or can't be serious about? Okay, seems fair.

No one's saying you can't try to be funny. You're just failing to actually be funny. And getting your knickers awful twisted at this being pointed out to you.

Except what you said had nothing to do with that. Both of your replies were about the nature of the joke, and not the fact that the joke wasn't funny (so, please, take your bullshit elsewhere).
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:53 pm

The Land of Truth wrote:
Ifreann wrote:No one's saying you can't try to be funny. You're just failing to actually be funny. And getting your knickers awful twisted at this being pointed out to you.

Except what you said had nothing to do with that. Both of your replies were about the nature of the joke, and not the fact that the joke wasn't funny

It wasn't funny because suggesting that women be forced to dress a certain way isn't funny, and that was pretty much the whole joke.
(so, please, take your bullshit elsewhere).

Nah, I'm good.

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Postby Ayreonia » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:55 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Dakini wrote:He got pics. ;)

:O And now you're making porn! David Cameron would be disappointed.


The Land of Truth wrote:You people don't understand how humor works, do you?

We do. We understand that trying to be funny when suggesting that society dictate what women wear doesn't make it funny. Do you understand this?

"Ooh, look at how politically correct I am. I am, in fact, so politically correct that I'll get offended by a comment that wasn't aimed at me, made by a person who agrees with me, whose said comment was making fun of people who think rape is okay."

ffs
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Postby The Land of Truth » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:55 pm

Ifreann wrote:
The Land of Truth wrote:Except what you said had nothing to do with that. Both of your replies were about the nature of the joke, and not the fact that the joke wasn't funny

It wasn't funny because suggesting that women be forced to dress a certain way isn't funny, and that was pretty much the whole joke.
(so, please, take your bullshit elsewhere).

Nah, I'm good.

And I wasn't suggesting that. As a matter of fact, I wasn't suggesting anything, that's the whole fucking point of a joke (be it funny or not). You're just mad because I said something you didn't like and you wanna make sure I can't ever say anything else you don't like.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:55 pm

Ayreonia wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:It was. It was fucking stupid. And now you have this genius joking about it being the solution to rape apologists, and, like no, it fucking isn't.

How about women dress how they want, whether that's a burka or nude at the beach, and no one "lets" them or "makes" them do shit, because it's none of anyone's fucking business but the woman wearing the clothes (or lack thereof).

Do you even English? I never said it would be a solution to rape apologists. Jesus.

If a woman wants to be offended by my comment, sure. You don't have to do it in their stead.

It was sexist and stupid. I don't need to be a woman to find it fucking annoying any more than I have to be black to find racist jokes annoying.
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