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Postby Zweite Alaje » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:35 pm

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Zweite Alaje wrote:I know the difference between a fake character and an actual person portraying a vulgar act. I dislike porn as a media form because actual people are acting out immoral behaviors and are essentially prostitutes.

So as long as it's sexualization of fake characters, that's okay?

That's what I said, isn't it?
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:36 pm

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The Parkus Empire wrote:So as long as it's sexualization of fake characters, that's okay?

That's what I said, isn't it?

With or w/o voices?
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:42 pm

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Zweite Alaje wrote:That's what I said, isn't it?

With or w/o voices?

Why would that matter? A voice actor isn't physically acting out anything.
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Postby The Land of Truth » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:44 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Ifreann wrote:This may be the funniest thing I've seen on NSG in quite some time.


What? You doubt that he fell victim to one of the millions of devious hackers who do nothing all day except try to log in as different nations using random passwords to participate in political discussions with ill formed ideas and then name-drop professors they claim to be related to? That seems a little cynical.

He TG'd me about it and I just acted like I believed it so he'd leave me alone (and also because I frankly don't give a shit).
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Postby The Land of Truth » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:46 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:So as long as it's sexualization of fake characters, that's okay?

That's what I said, isn't it?

You heard him, get at it Simpsons!
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:47 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:With or w/o voices?

Why would that matter? A voice actor isn't physically acting out anything.

No, but it has to do with whether you're okay with phone sex.

Frankly, this is how it looks you me: you got a fetish for cartoons. You want to call people who are into real people sick or whatever, but make being into cartoons perfectly acceptable. You object to sexualization even outside of porn, unless it's your fetish. In fact, frequently thinking about sex with real people is perfectly normal and healthy. People should not be compelled to conform to your fetish.
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Postby Blakk Metal » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:55 pm

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Fee liable to any damage that might enter a minor's computer, should it happen. Regulation of the internet might provide the government with the proper statistics and create a charge from there.



Which is why the "world wide web" is a bad idea instead of a nationalized one.

Unfortunately for you, this is the real world. There is no nationalised web except for in North Korea

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Postby Dakini » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:00 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:>people object to sexist objectification
>complains

>censorship
>applauds


Yes?

I agree with the censorship of pornography...especially for the youth.

But you're not fine with the censorship of nearly pornographic games that are targeted at the youth.


Because it's only okay when women aren't consenting and getting paid to take off their clothes, amirite?

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Postby Dakini » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:01 pm

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Zweite Alaje wrote:
Yes?

I agree with the censorship of pornography...especially for the youth.

You throw fits over sexualization of our society, yet you have a sexualized flag, and you think anyone who gets upset over sexist sexualization is tripping. You know, this measure also bans possession of acted rape pornography.

Yeah, the sexualized flag is just icing on the hypocrisy cake.

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Postby Dakini » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:03 pm

The Land of Truth wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
What? You doubt that he fell victim to one of the millions of devious hackers who do nothing all day except try to log in as different nations using random passwords to participate in political discussions with ill formed ideas and then name-drop professors they claim to be related to? That seems a little cynical.

He TG'd me about it and I just acted like I believed it so he'd leave me alone (and also because I frankly don't give a shit).

I just didn't respond when he TG-ed me.

I mean, I assume that he didn't give his father's actual info otherwise he wouldn't be allowed on the internet (unless I'm severely underestimating his age...).

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Postby Dakini » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:06 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:You throw fits over sexualization of our society, yet you have a sexualized flag, and you think anyone who gets upset over sexist sexualization is tripping. You know, this measure also bans possession of acted rape pornography.

I know the difference between a fake character and an actual person portraying a vulgar act. I dislike porn as a media form because actual people are acting out immoral behaviors and are essentially prostitutes.

So what? They consent to it, they're paid for it. It's their bodies, their choice.

And good, faked rape is disgusting. It should be a felony to possess it.

There goes half of all hentai.

Ayreonia wrote:So it's good because it's not liberal, not because of what it entails?

Your flag could be considered porn.

No, it's because of both.

And no, not really. A picture of a buxom woman doesn't equate to porn.

Because you know it when you see it and should be the sole arbiter of what constitutes porn?

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:07 pm

Dakini wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:You throw fits over sexualization of our society, yet you have a sexualized flag, and you think anyone who gets upset over sexist sexualization is tripping. You know, this measure also bans possession of acted rape pornography.

Yeah, the sexualized flag is just icing on the hypocrisy cake.

Especially when he would object to a real, consenting woman even dressing that way as "slutty", and "corrupting our society".
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Postby Dakini » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:09 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Dakini wrote:Yeah, the sexualized flag is just icing on the hypocrisy cake.

Especially when he would object to a real, consenting woman even dressing that way as "slutty", and "corrupting our society".

Yeah really.

I guess it's okay when men draw women all slutty, but it's not okay when women make themselves up to be all slutty? In the former case, it's clearly okay because men know what they're doing and in the latter... well...

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:10 pm

Dakini wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Especially when he would object to a real, consenting woman even dressing that way as "slutty", and "corrupting our society".

Yeah really.

I guess it's okay when men draw women all slutty, but it's not okay when women make themselves up to be all slutty? In the former case, it's clearly okay because men know what they're doing and in the latter... well...

A woman expressing her sexuality is a big job, a man's job.
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Postby Dakini » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:11 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Dakini wrote:Yeah really.

I guess it's okay when men draw women all slutty, but it's not okay when women make themselves up to be all slutty? In the former case, it's clearly okay because men know what they're doing and in the latter... well...

A woman expressing her sexuality is a big job, a man's job.

Obviously.

I wonder how traumatized Alaje would be by the fact that I'm currently wearing a miniskirt (not because I'm trying to attract other people, mind, but because miniskirts are fun).
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:12 pm

Dakini wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:A woman expressing her sexuality is a big job, a man's job.

Obviously.

I wonder how traumatized Alaje would be by the fact that I'm currently wearing a miniskirt.

Unless you're a video game character that's awfully degenerate of you.

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Postby Technopolis » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:13 pm

Dakini wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:A woman expressing her sexuality is a big job, a man's job.

Obviously.

I wonder how traumatized Alaje would be by the fact that I'm currently wearing a miniskirt.

Quick, cover yourself up with this explicit cartoon! Can't have your legs on show.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:19 pm

Dakini wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:A woman expressing her sexuality is a big job, a man's job.

Obviously.

I wonder how traumatized Alaje would be by the fact that I'm currently wearing a miniskirt (not because I'm trying to attract other people, mind, but because miniskirts are fun).

It's not so much that your clothing choice isn't based on a decision to attract people, is that it's not based on a decision to not attract people. Which makes you a slut.
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Postby Dakini » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:21 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Dakini wrote:Obviously.

I wonder how traumatized Alaje would be by the fact that I'm currently wearing a miniskirt.

Unless you're a video game character that's awfully degenerate of you.

Yeah.

Granted, for a video game character my tits aren't hanging out of my shirt nearly enough.

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Postby Ayreonia » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:22 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:
Cadaver breadsticks wrote:Unfortunately for you, this is the real world. There is no nationalised web except for in North Korea

...and Cuba.
Risottia wrote:Ban the United Kingdom, impeach Queen Elizabeth II, CAMERON FOR LORD PROTECTOR OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF ENGLAND, SCOTLAND AND IRELAND 2014!!!

But what is theft?

Porn. Duh.
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Postby Dakini » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:23 pm

Technopolis wrote:
Dakini wrote:Obviously.

I wonder how traumatized Alaje would be by the fact that I'm currently wearing a miniskirt.

Quick, cover yourself up with this explicit cartoon! Can't have your legs on show.

Omg! More than 50% of my skin is showing! What with my arms uncovered, my legs mostly so and my face and neck totally bare!

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Postby Dakini » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:25 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Dakini wrote:Obviously.

I wonder how traumatized Alaje would be by the fact that I'm currently wearing a miniskirt (not because I'm trying to attract other people, mind, but because miniskirts are fun).

It's not so much that your clothing choice isn't based on a decision to attract people, is that it's not based on a decision to not attract people. Which makes you a slut.

Heh. It's almost like he doesn't know that women get checked out for wearing jeans and a t-shirt.

Hell, the one job I had where I was sexually harassed, the guy who harassed me did so while I was wearing a baggy t-shirt, baggy jeans, steel-toed boots and safety glasses (go factory jobs).

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Postby Ayreonia » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:26 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Ayreonia wrote:So it's good because it's not liberal, not because of what it entails?

Your flag could be considered porn.

No, it's because of both.

And no, not really. A picture of a buxom woman doesn't equate to porn.

Dem ebul librruls :(

Would you consider it objectionable if it were a real woman?
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:28 pm

Dakini wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:It's not so much that your clothing choice isn't based on a decision to attract people, is that it's not based on a decision to not attract people. Which makes you a slut.

Heh. It's almost like he doesn't know that women get checked out for wearing jeans and a t-shirt.

Hell, the one job I had where I was sexually harassed, the guy who harassed me did so while I was wearing a baggy t-shirt, baggy jeans, steel-toed boots and safety glasses (go factory jobs).

You probably gave him the impression that you had an identity as something (or someone!) other than a sex object--he was just trying to correct you, you see.

Sorry about the experience, though. It's unfortunately all too common.... :(
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:28 pm

Dakini wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Unless you're a video game character that's awfully degenerate of you.

Yeah.

Granted, for a video game character my tits aren't hanging out of my shirt nearly enough.

Then you may be a real woman, and therefore vile and degenerate for exposing your legs. Those are for your husband! Or something!

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