Escaping the 'Gay Culture'

[Yumyumsuppertime]

I don't mind if gays act gay. Makes it easier to identify them. The notion of secret gays among us makes me feel uncomfortable and I'm not even a homphobe. You'd never know if a guy is checking you out and that would be weird.

Actually, you are.

Yeah. "It makes me uncomfortable that there might be a gay guy near me and I don't even know" is close to "But what if they make the children gay?" in terms of signs of homophobia.

[Nailed to the Perch]

I'm sorry, I don't have a share of the watermelon. I don't want a share of the watermelon. It's just not me; I refuse to be part of this watermelonnormative society.

You know, it's flamboyant anti-watermelonists like you who ruin this movement for the good anti-melonists. If you'd just tone it down and take a goddamn slice to fit in, instead of throwing your anti-melonism in everyone's face, then maybe we could make some progress.

We're there, we'd rather eat a pear, get used to it!

[Anti Communismm]

Your Pride parades looks like a Freak Show with all honesty .

To bigots like you, sure.

Most of those guys do more harm than good with all their actions during those parades .

Pssst, you aren't the kind of person we're trying to reach with the Pride movement.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cCUqzN1Ky74/TDX3cetE7OI/AAAAAAAAADw/TBbFp334i2g/s1600/Pride+1.jpg


The image speaks for itself and you never will reach people like me .

[The Blaatschapen]

I'm sorry, I don't have a share of the watermelon. I don't want a share of the watermelon. It's just not me; I refuse to be part of this watermelonnormative society.

You know, it's flamboyant anti-watermelonists like you who ruin this movement for the good anti-melonists. If you'd just tone it down and take a goddamn slice to fit in, instead of throwing your anti-melonism in everyone's face, then maybe we could make some progress.

We're here, we don't like melons, get used to it!

[Choronzon]

Actually, you are.

Yeah. "It makes me uncomfortable that there might be a gay guy near me and I don't even know" is close to "But what if they make the children gay?" in terms of signs of homophobia.

I'm not a homophobe, but I'm scared a gay might be near me.

Isn't kinda like, the textbook definition of a homophobe?

[St George]

You don't pour it on something. You pour it inside something.

And fair point. You could go the skittles vodka route.

Ooh, yes, I remember the wodka in watermelon thing. Usually with some orange juice and straws. And then a huge group having to drink it bottoms up with the straws.

Great drinking game for a party with a tropical theme

Go home Blaat, you're drunk

[The Steel Magnolia]

Says the guy who's afraid of being killed for being bisexual?



No, it was, "We're different, we act how we want. If you try to piss on us for it, we'll break your fucking nose."



No, that's not how homophobes think.

The majority of society is now accepting.

lollllll

It's the minority that are a problem.
With them, it's the perceived alien nature of homosexuality that is the problem.

So?

Fuck 'em.

[Des-Bal]

No, they don't.

If you're someone who was going to be pro gay rights until you say a gay pride parade, chances are you were never going to be pro gay rights.

I can think of no worse way to battle ignorance than misinformation.

[Choronzon]

To bigots like you, sure.


Pssst, you aren't the kind of person we're trying to reach with the Pride movement.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cCUqzN1Ky74/TDX3cetE7OI/AAAAAAAAADw/TBbFp334i2g/s1600/Pride+1.jpg


The image speaks for itself and you never will reach people like me .

You mean the gay rights group will never reach entrenched homophobes?

I assure you, this is not a revelation.

[Choronzon]

No, they don't.

If you're someone who was going to be pro gay rights until you say a gay pride parade, chances are you were never going to be pro gay rights.

I can think of no worse way to battle ignorance than misinformation.

the fuck does this even mean

[Ostroeuropa]

So heteronormativity is gay culture.

No. YOU are part of gay culture. The fact that you are heteronormative is irrelevant. Take part in a parade, join a rights organization, or participate in some way in the community at large, and you're part of the culture. Neil Patrick Harris isn't effeminate, but he takes part in rallies and marches. Ellen DeGeneres is somewhat androgynous without being at all butch, but she's definitely part of the culture. You don't need to dress in drag, to lisp, to snap your fingers, or to shave yourself down, oil yourself up, and dance to club music in order to be part of the culture. You just have to accept the fact that it's there, and participate in your own way. Or you could also opt out, but then you forfeit your moral right to complain that you aren't being represented. Want people to see that gay people are diverse? Then be part of the diversity!

Why on earth would I want to spend time with the kinds of people who think their sexuality is worth making such a fuss over?
Literally the only reason I can think of is the reason you point out. That if I don't go, i wont be represented. And as such, people will get the impression that gays are just like that.
So in essence, because you people refuse to rename the culture, i'm being forced to either participate, or to face misinformation that you are propogating.
Why can't you just rename it, and then I can not participate in peace.

[The Blaatschapen]

Ooh, yes, I remember the wodka in watermelon thing. Usually with some orange juice and straws. And then a huge group having to drink it bottoms up with the straws.

Great drinking game for a party with a tropical theme

Go home Blaat, you're drunk

I am home

[Bottle]

You know, it's flamboyant anti-watermelonists like you who ruin this movement for the good anti-melonists. If you'd just tone it down and take a goddamn slice to fit in, instead of throwing your anti-melonism in everyone's face, then maybe we could make some progress.

We're there, we'd rather eat a pear, get used to it!

Ugh, that's just sick, thinking there might be secret anti-melonists checking out my fruit cocktail...*shudder*

[Nailed to the Perch]

You know, it's flamboyant anti-watermelonists like you who ruin this movement for the good anti-melonists. If you'd just tone it down and take a goddamn slice to fit in, instead of throwing your anti-melonism in everyone's face, then maybe we could make some progress.

We're here, we don't like melons, get used to it!

Mine was better.

[Tule]

Why is acting feminine so bad? Do you have a problem with women OP?

[Yumyumsuppertime]

You have no idea about pride and the help it does for our cause.

Your Pride parades looks like a Freak Show with all honesty .

Most of those guys do more harm than good with all their actions during those parades .

Here's the fun thing: most straight people I know are absolutely cool with it. The ones who aren't cool with it (like you) aren't going to accept gay people in any way unless they're totally in the closet and self-hating, so there's no point in trying to get you to change your mind. Therefore, why should they care what you think?

[St George]

To bigots like you, sure.


Pssst, you aren't the kind of person we're trying to reach with the Pride movement.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cCUqzN1Ky74/TDX3cetE7OI/AAAAAAAAADw/TBbFp334i2g/s1600/Pride+1.jpg


The image speaks for itself

As an expression of Pride? Sure. As a summation of the movement and our cause and our goals? Hell no.

and you never will reach people like me .

We don't want to reach bigots like you.

The rest of society is already coming over to our side. Another generation, maybe two, and all that is left of your mindset will be the mocking comments of our descendants as they wonder just why people like you even existed.

[Anti Communismm]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cCUqzN1Ky74/TDX3cetE7OI/AAAAAAAAADw/TBbFp334i2g/s1600/Pride+1.jpg


The image speaks for itself and you never will reach people like me .

You mean the gay rights group will never reach entrenched homophobes?

I assure you, this is not a revelation.

I what i am and i won't change .

Go preach your demagogy to someone else .

[Des-Bal]

the fuck does this even mean

Ignorance causes bigotry
Gay pride events propogate a false image of homosexuals
IE fighting ignorance with misinformation.

[Katganistan]

Can we at least agree that there are a spectrum of personality types under the umbrella of gay and that it sucks to try to exclude types you don't find personally appealing as either "too gay" or "not gay enough"?

[Bottle]

Your Pride parades looks like a Freak Show with all honesty .

Most of those guys do more harm than good with all their actions during those parades .

Here's the fun thing: most straight people I know are absolutely cool with it. The ones who aren't cool with it (like you) aren't going to accept gay people in any way unless they're totally in the closet and self-hating, so there's no point in trying to get you to change your mind. Therefore, why should they care what you think?

Here's the other thing:

Most straight people I know spent at least one or two Spring Breaks getting shitfaced and taking their clothes off for beads, so seeing gay people do exactly the same shit doesn't give them a case of the vapors.

[The Steel Magnolia]

No. YOU are part of gay culture. The fact that you are heteronormative is irrelevant. Take part in a parade, join a rights organization, or participate in some way in the community at large, and you're part of the culture. Neil Patrick Harris isn't effeminate, but he takes part in rallies and marches. Ellen DeGeneres is somewhat androgynous without being at all butch, but she's definitely part of the culture. You don't need to dress in drag, to lisp, to snap your fingers, or to shave yourself down, oil yourself up, and dance to club music in order to be part of the culture. You just have to accept the fact that it's there, and participate in your own way. Or you could also opt out, but then you forfeit your moral right to complain that you aren't being represented. Want people to see that gay people are diverse? Then be part of the diversity!

Why on earth would I want to spend time with the kinds of people who think their sexuality is worth making such a fuss over?

Don't hang out with them then.

That was easy.

Literally the only reason I can think of is the reason you point out. That if I don't go, i wont be represented. And as such, people will get the impression that gays are just like that.
So in essence, because you people refuse to rename the culture, i'm being forced to either participate, or to face misinformation that you are propogating.
Why can't you just rename it, and then I can not participate in peace.

Because I don't care about you not participating in peace. Feel free not to involve yourself if you want, but don't strip it away from the rest of us.

Seriously, you're proposing we change a culture that encompassess millions upon millions of people, just because you don't like it.

[Choronzon]

the fuck does this even mean

Ignorance causes bigotry
Gay pride events propogate a false image of homosexuals
IE fighting ignorance with misinformation.

Ooooh, so no gay people are actually like the people in gay pride parades? Is that what you're saying?

Because that would be fucking idiotic.

[The Steel Magnolia]

To bigots like you, sure.


Pssst, you aren't the kind of person we're trying to reach with the Pride movement.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cCUqzN1Ky74/TDX3cetE7OI/AAAAAAAAADw/TBbFp334i2g/s1600/Pride+1.jpg


The image speaks for itself and you never will reach people like me .

And why do I care about reaching you again?

[St George]

Can we at least agree that there are a spectrum of personality types under the umbrella of gay and that is sucks to try to exclude types you don't agree with as either "too gay" or "not gay enough"?

No.

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