Escaping the 'Gay Culture'

[The Blaatschapen]

And now you're just being ridiculous. Why would I waste wodka on watermelon?

1. You don't use the good vodka on this.
2. To get drunk.

1. Fair point.
2. To get drunk I'd drink the wodka straight, rather than pour it on something that I will not eat.

[Ostroeuropa]

I'm not pretending to be straight.
Nothing about you being who you are demands that you keep saying "This is gay culture." you can be who you are just fine, and call it what it is. Pride culture.
You don't need to drag the rest of us into it and make us victims of you perpetuating this bullshit.

It's called gay culture.

Rather than say "I'm not like that, so it's not gay culture", why not say "I'm like this, so this is also part of gay culture"?

So heteronormativity is gay culture.

[Dakini]

You don't need to drag the rest of us into it and make us victims of you perpetuating this bullshit.

I think that you're looking at the wrong people when you suggest that others are making victims out of you. Maybe you should look at, I dunno, the bigots?

[Anti Communismm]

How being " Gay " is now a culture ?

Damn the world is upside down .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_culture

Damn world.

You crazy.

Having things that I don't like.

Damn.

It's like we don't even live on my completely imaginary and never existed version of planet Earth anymore.

I still don't think that exists Gay culture but that's my opinion .

[Belligerent Alcoholics]

While I don't support the idea of stereotyping every single queer person as flamboyant, I don't think we should be trying to shame queer people who are flamboyant. And I don't see how it's harming the cause of LGBT rights in anyway, the cause seems to be doing fine regardless.

There's another issue in play here that you totally left out - flamboyant queer people who smear other queer people with the self-hater label just because they're not flamboyant.

[Ostroeuropa]

You don't need to drag the rest of us into it and make us victims of you perpetuating this bullshit.

I think that you're looking at the wrong people when you suggest that others are making victims out of you. Maybe you should look at, I dunno, the bigots?

Yes, but you people are supposed to know better for gods sake.

Well fuck. Who'da thunk they'd kidnap us all and put us on this boat ride with them to- WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING!? Don't make holes in the ship!!! That's an awful strategy on how to get out of here!!!

Oh, you victim blamer!!!

[St George]

I don't mind if gays act gay. Makes it easier to identify them. The notion of secret gays among us makes me feel uncomfortable and I'm not even a homphobe. You'd never know if a guy is checking you out and that would be weird.

Actually, you are.

[Sensorland]

Probably got a point there, actually. A relative of mine who's gay doesn't act like that at all.

Same here

[Dakini]

1. You don't use the good vodka on this.
2. To get drunk.

1. Fair point.
2. To get drunk I'd drink the wodka straight, rather than pour it on something that I will not eat.

You don't pour it on something. You pour it inside something.

And fair point. You could go the skittles vodka route.

[Anti Communismm]

How being " Gay " is now a culture ?

Damn the world is upside down .

Being gay is not a culture.

However, there is a gay culture.

But, you know, I understand that it's easier to simply post than to read even part of the thread for context.

I don't care about those guys unless they are doing their pride parades which is a " funny " show and they aren't helping their " cause " .

[The Blaatschapen]

1. Fair point.
2. To get drunk I'd drink the wodka straight, rather than pour it on something that I will not eat.

You don't pour it on something. You pour it inside something.

And fair point. You could go the skittles vodka route.

Ooh, yes, I remember the wodka in watermelon thing. Usually with some orange juice and straws. And then a huge group having to drink it bottoms up with the straws.

Great drinking game for a party with a tropical theme

[Dalmacie]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_culture

Damn world.

You crazy.

Having things that I don't like.

Damn.

It's like we don't even live on my completely imaginary and never existed version of planet Earth anymore.

I still don't think that exists Gay culture but that's my opinion .

Well that's fantastic.

And until you become a significant and famous sociologist, or be able to pass a law that "abolishes" gay culture, I don't care about your opinion.

I know. Reality is harsh.

Oh well. Next.

[Bottle]

I, for one, consider myself an ally to the watermelon-disliking community. I will stand proudly shoulder-to-shoulder with you as you fight for your right to give me your share of the watermelon.

I'm sorry, I don't have a share of the watermelon. I don't want a share of the watermelon. It's just not me; I refuse to be part of this watermelonnormative society.

You know, it's flamboyant anti-watermelonists like you who ruin this movement for the good anti-melonists. If you'd just tone it down and take a goddamn slice to fit in, instead of throwing your anti-melonism in everyone's face, then maybe we could make some progress.

[St George]

Being gay is not a culture.

However, there is a gay culture.

But, you know, I understand that it's easier to simply post than to read even part of the thread for context.

I don't care about those guys unless they are doing their pride parades which is a " funny " show and they aren't helping their " cause " .

You have no idea about pride and the help it does for our cause.

[Dakini]

I think that you're looking at the wrong people when you suggest that others are making victims out of you. Maybe you should look at, I dunno, the bigots?

Yes, but you people are supposed to know better for gods sake.

Who are "you people"? Most people don't think of me as bi because I'm in a relationship with a dude.
And while I attend pride parades when I can (because they're fun), I don't tend to march in them (this year I might bring a poster to hide some bigots from the people who are marching because the parade here gets assholes picketing it). I can appreciate a good time when I see it and other than the bigots who show up, the community is generally supportive.

Well fuck. Who'da thunk they'd kidnap us all and put us on this boat ride with them to- WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING!? Don't make holes in the ship!!! That's an awful strategy on how to get out of here!!!

Oh, you victim blamer!!!

False analogy is false.

And you are victim blaming.

[Anti Communismm]

I still don't think that exists Gay culture but that's my opinion .

Well that's fantastic.

And until you become a significant and famous sociologist, or be able to pass a law that "abolishes" gay culture, I don't care about your opinion.

I know. Reality is harsh.

Oh well. Next.

I don't intend to be a Sociologist .

I would like to abolish that and " their rights " but i can't .

[Dakini]

You don't pour it on something. You pour it inside something.

And fair point. You could go the skittles vodka route.

Ooh, yes, I remember the wodka in watermelon thing. Usually with some orange juice and straws. And then a huge group having to drink it bottoms up with the straws.

Great drinking game for a party with a tropical theme

Indeed.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

It's called gay culture.

Rather than say "I'm not like that, so it's not gay culture", why not say "I'm like this, so this is also part of gay culture"?

So heteronormativity is gay culture.

No. YOU are part of gay culture. The fact that you are heteronormative is irrelevant. Take part in a parade, join a rights organization, or participate in some way in the community at large, and you're part of the culture. Neil Patrick Harris isn't effeminate, but he takes part in rallies and marches. Ellen DeGeneres is somewhat androgynous without being at all butch, but she's definitely part of the culture. You don't need to dress in drag, to lisp, to snap your fingers, or to shave yourself down, oil yourself up, and dance to club music in order to be part of the culture. You just have to accept the fact that it's there, and participate in your own way. Or you could also opt out, but then you forfeit your moral right to complain that you aren't being represented. Want people to see that gay people are diverse? Then be part of the diversity!

[Anti Communismm]

I don't care about those guys unless they are doing their pride parades which is a " funny " show and they aren't helping their " cause " .

You have no idea about pride and the help it does for our cause.

Your Pride parades looks like a Freak Show with all honesty .

Most of those guys do more harm than good with all their actions during those parades .

[Choronzon]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_culture

Damn world.

You crazy.

Having things that I don't like.

Damn.

It's like we don't even live on my completely imaginary and never existed version of planet Earth anymore.

I still don't think that exists Gay culture but that's my opinion .

I mean, its pretty objective that gay culture exists. There are gay people, and they've created a culture.

[St George]

You have no idea about pride and the help it does for our cause.

Your Pride parades looks like a Freak Show with all honesty .

To bigots like you, sure.

Most of those guys do more harm than good with all their actions during those parades .

Pssst, you aren't the kind of person we're trying to reach with the Pride movement.

[The Blaatschapen]

Ooh, yes, I remember the wodka in watermelon thing. Usually with some orange juice and straws. And then a huge group having to drink it bottoms up with the straws.

Great drinking game for a party with a tropical theme

Indeed.

Damn, the way I said it makes it sound like I don't do that stuff anymore. I should start throwing parties again

[Meryuma]

While I don't support the idea of stereotyping every single queer person as flamboyant, I don't think we should be trying to shame queer people who are flamboyant. And I don't see how it's harming the cause of LGBT rights in anyway, the cause seems to be doing fine regardless.

There's another issue in play here that you totally left out - flamboyant queer people who smear other queer people with the self-hater label just because they're not flamboyant.

I'm openly a queer person and participate in a lot of queer social activities and I've never seen that happen.

You'd never know if a guy is checking you out and that would be weird.

What makes it weirder than a girl checking you out?

Well that's fantastic.

And until you become a significant and famous sociologist, or be able to pass a law that "abolishes" gay culture, I don't care about your opinion.

I know. Reality is harsh.

Oh well. Next.

I don't intend to be a Sociologist .

I would like to abolish that and " their rights " but i can't .

Just move to Saudi Arabia. Or cry about it.

[Choronzon]

Most of those guys do more harm than good with all their actions during those parades .

No, they don't.

If you're someone who was going to be pro gay rights until you say a gay pride parade, chances are you were never going to be pro gay rights.

[Bottle]

You have no idea about pride and the help it does for our cause.

Your Pride parades looks like a Freak Show with all honesty .

Most of those guys do more harm than good with all their actions during those parades .

Your concern is noted.

*throws glitter*