Escaping the 'Gay Culture'

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

If people act like stereotypes they give credence to stereotypes. I don't think that means anyone has to act a specific way, but when you project an image you should make sure it's a good one.

How is wearing a boa "not a good image"?

Because it's not heteronormative enough. How DARE we try to break a cycle of heternormativity!!!

[Des-Bal]

And if it's the image that they feel comfortable, safe, and prideful in, then you can probably do a lot of good by taking a dirty sock out of the hamper and putting it in your mouth because no one gives a single shit about how THEIR lifestyle makes you feel icky.

I have never even attempted to take offense at the way someone else conducts themselves.

"You are projecting a poor image" is not
"You must conform to my standards."

[The Truth and Light]

If people act like stereotypes they give credence to stereotypes. I don't think that means anyone has to act a specific way, but when you project an image you should make sure it's a good one.

And if it's the image that they feel comfortable, safe, and prideful in, then you can probably do a lot of good by taking a dirty sock out of the hamper and putting it in your mouth because no one gives a single shit about how THEIR lifestyle makes you feel icky.

I think I love you.

[The Parkus Empire]

dude


what That makes no sense.

If you actually supported equality, then you wouldn't need people to act a certain way or say something special to convince you. I'm a feminist, I don't fucking go around threatening women who behave in a way I don't like, "I might not be inclined to support your freedom if you continue to act this way...."

You have no fucking clue what supporting equality means. You're doing the opposite.

Convince me of what? I'm convinced. I'm a supporter of gay rights I also happen to be aware that the image being popularized by the gay rights movement is a pretty shitty one.

If you're trying to bring down the patriarchy and heteronormativity and all that jazz then I'm your target audience. When I say you aren't doing a good job it bears consideration.

The heteronormative patriarchy isn't something that should be catered to. You're saying, "You should be worried about whether or not you can convince it to grant you rights." Fuck that. Once again, it took riots before they listened. Fuck pleading with an oppressor.

There is nothing shitty about the word "fabulous" or not acting like a fucking "proper" man/woman.

[The Parkus Empire]

"You are projecting a poor image" is not
"You must conform to my standards."

In this case, yeah, you're saying not conforming to your idea of "normal and good" is "projecting a poor image."

[Des-Bal]

The heteronormative patriarchy isn't something that should be catered to. You're saying, "You should be worried about whether or not you can convince it to grant you rights." Fuck that. Once again, it took riots before they listened. Fuck pleading with an oppressor.

There is nothing shitty about the word "fabulous" or not acting like a fucking "proper" man/woman.

"Show them they're stereotypes are wrong"
beats the hell out of
"Show them they're stereotypes are right"

[Des-Bal]

In this case, yeah, you're saying not conforming to your idea of "normal and good" is "projecting a poor image."

No I'm not. I'm saying "Act like a person."

[The Truth and Light]

In this case, yeah, you're saying not conforming to your idea of "normal and good" is "projecting a poor image."

No I'm not. I'm saying "Act like a person."

WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

And if it's the image that they feel comfortable, safe, and prideful in, then you can probably do a lot of good by taking a dirty sock out of the hamper and putting it in your mouth because no one gives a single shit about how THEIR lifestyle makes you feel icky.

I have never even attempted to take offense at the way someone else conducts themselves.

"You are projecting a poor image" is not
"You must conform to my standards."

It's only a "poor image" because you want them to portray themselves how YOU want, and we are not here to pander to YOU, we are here to express ourselves, make ourselves comfortanle, make ourselves feel safe, and take pride in OURSELVES. That's fucking what gay culture is.

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

No I'm not. I'm saying "Act like a person."

WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?

"STOP BEING GAY, EW YOU'RE SO GROSS!"

[The Evening]

And if it's the image that they feel comfortable, safe, and prideful in, then you can probably do a lot of good by taking a dirty sock out of the hamper and putting it in your mouth because no one gives a single shit about how THEIR lifestyle makes you feel icky.

I have never even attempted to take offense at the way someone else conducts themselves.

"You are projecting a poor image" is not
"You must conform to my standards."

But it sure seems like it. Again, to the quote of 'We're here, we're queer, get use to it!,' why should the minority assimilate to the standards of the majority?

The reason why gay pride is so open about their sexuality is because centuries of prejudice and discrimination has forced them to hide who they are. They are taking back their identity by being open about themselves, feeling secure about their sexual lifestyle and not caring what people think. People think they are projecting a poor image if they do not understand the context in which gay pride occurs. Without it, many people are ignoring the reasoning behind these actions and will consider them projecting a 'poor image,' when, in fact, they are projecting a positive one, since they are showing their existence to society.

[Nailed to the Perch]

In this case, yeah, you're saying not conforming to your idea of "normal and good" is "projecting a poor image."

No I'm not. I'm saying "Act like a person."

People sometimes wear feather boas. The fact that you appear to believe this makes them non-persons is entirely on you.

[The Parkus Empire]

The heteronormative patriarchy isn't something that should be catered to. You're saying, "You should be worried about whether or not you can convince it to grant you rights." Fuck that. Once again, it took riots before they listened. Fuck pleading with an oppressor.

There is nothing shitty about the word "fabulous" or not acting like a fucking "proper" man/woman.

"Show them they're stereotypes are wrong"
beats the hell out of
"Show them they're stereotypes are right"

No. Anyone who doesn't support gay rights because gays wear boas, need to be fucking punched regardless.

[The Parkus Empire]

In this case, yeah, you're saying not conforming to your idea of "normal and good" is "projecting a poor image."

No I'm not. I'm saying "Act like a person."

And the normative "person" is straight, cisgender, white male. That's the social default. That's what you're asking.

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

No I'm not. I'm saying "Act like a person."

People sometimes wear feather boas. The fact that you appear to believe this makes them non-persons is entirely on you.

But he supports gay rights! (as long as said homos conform to his standards, regardless of how it makes the homos in question feel)

[Des-Bal]

WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?

Consider that people will be making assumptions about you based on your dress and behavior and then dress and behave accordingly. We've already established the conduct shown at gay pride events just isn't how anybody actually acts.

[The Truth and Light]

WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?

Consider that people will be making assumptions about you based on your dress and behavior and then dress and behave accordingly. We've already established the conduct shown at gay pride events just isn't how anybody actually acts.

Oh so people at Pride events aren't actually people anymore? *scoffs*

[Ostroeuropa]

Consider that people will be making assumptions about you based on your dress and behavior and then dress and behave accordingly. We've already established the conduct shown at gay pride events just isn't how anybody actually acts.

Oh so people at Pride events aren't actually people anymore? *scoffs*

Most of them don't act like that at any time other than pride parades.

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?

Consider that people will be making assumptions about you based on your dress and behavior and then dress and behave accordingly. We've already established the conduct shown at gay pride events just isn't how anybody actually acts.

Yes, lets all act and dress EXACTLY how we do in every day life during parades. Let's put some computers on a float, dress in business attire, and go to work, or play video games on a cheetos-stained couch, or do our studying on the parade. You are supposed to act EXACTLY like your normal self during parades, DUH.
We should also do this for holiday parades because how dare we exhibit something about our identity as part of X culture by being supportive of how we wish to show cheer during the holidays.

[Des-Bal]

But he supports gay rights! (as long as said homos conform to his standards, regardless of how it makes the homos in question feel)

I support gay rights regardless I just happen to possess the ability to notice the effects of my actions. Depicting yourself as some flamboyant boa wearing sub-species is the opposite of what you want to do.

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

Oh so people at Pride events aren't actually people anymore? *scoffs*

Most of them don't act like that at any time other than pride parades.

Because it's a pride event and THEY'RE ALLOWED TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES IN ANY MANNER THEY CHOOSE.

[The Truth and Light]

Oh so people at Pride events aren't actually people anymore? *scoffs*

Most of them don't act like that at any time other than pride parades.

Isn't that a no brainer, tho?

You don't usually see Santa costumes except around Christmas.

[The Parkus Empire]

some flamboyant boa wearing sub-species

"Sub-species"? Are you fucking for real, homie?

[Nailed to the Perch]

sub-species

Good lord.

[Des-Bal]

Because it's a pride event and THEY'RE ALLOWED TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES IN ANY MANNER THEY CHOOSE.

They absolutely are, there are however consequences.

"When people think X this is what I want them to think."

That is the thought that should go through your head any time you present yourself in public.