Escaping the 'Gay Culture'

[Des-Bal]

Ever seen someone with hair who doesn't pay attention to it? Especially long hair?

I wear my hair cut short and combed. If there are no bugs or sticks in it I am pleased. I generally don't like long haired people.

[Verbal Pararhea]

You both are not LGBT.

How the hell do you know who or what any of us are?

[Ostroeuropa]

How do you know I'm not LGBT?
In fact, i'm Bisexual.
I have no idea where the fuck you got this weird idea from that if I disagree with you, I simply can't be an LGBT.
Prejudicial much?

http://osentendidos.com/2013/03/13/essa ... epresenta/

It's an english forum. Could you provide a summary?

[Des-Bal]

http://osentendidos.com/2013/03/13/essa ... epresenta/

What was the point of posting a link nobody can read?

[Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes]

why

Because it's a waste of cognitive and financial resources.

Not really, appearance matters even if you don't think it should.

[The Parkus Empire]

why

Because it's a waste of cognitive and financial resources.

No it isn't. No hobby is a "waste" of resources, and caring about fashion and hair is actually practical. Unless you're someone who wears his jeans up to his chest with his shirt tucked in, and has Polish plaits.

[The Blaatschapen]

why

Because it's a waste of cognitive and financial resources.

Not to them. And considering it's quite the billion dollar industry, I'd argue otherwise.

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

Bullshit. I have no other words. Pretending to be speaking from a position of experience to shield your lack of understanding is just childish.

It also seeks to imply that homosexuals, left to their own devices, would ALL be flamboyant and such.
Fuck that.
That's not how this shit works. In fact, it's a stunningly homophobic stance to take.

Not in any way.

There are affected, effeminate and homosexual men.

All three group overlap, but none is necessary in and of each other.

What I saw here was people confusing affected with effeminate, and questioning whether reforcing an effeminate stereotype is liberating or denigrating to the whole of gay people.

What I note is some of those opinions, generally those on the 'denigrating side', don't seem to hold in account individual freedom, and how one should be free to be whatever one wants.

[The Parkus Empire]

Ever seen someone with hair who doesn't pay attention to it? Especially long hair?

I wear my hair cut short and combed. If there are no bugs or sticks in it I am pleased. I generally don't like long haired people.

If it's long enough to comb, that's pretty long for me.

Any reason you don't like people with long hair? Because there's a fucking lot of them.

[Verbal Pararhea]

Do you typically associate vapid teenage gossip with teenagers of both sexes, or just teenage girls?

I don't really know or care who does it more, but if it will please your sensibilities, I will indicate that I also have a problem with sports because they are a vast waste of time and money and they promote a fraternity-style climate of anti-intellectualism.

[Nailed to the Perch]

why

Because it's a waste of cognitive and financial resources.

Do you own a TV? Do you ever eat desserts? Just curious.

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

http://osentendidos.com/2013/03/13/essa ... epresenta/

What was the point of posting a link nobody can read?

Not everyone is Anglophone.

I talk about MY experience.

In Brazil everyone knows of these gays who hate sissies. They have issues. Period.

[Ostroeuropa]

Because it's a waste of cognitive and financial resources.

Not to them. And considering it's quite the billion dollar industry, I'd argue otherwise.

Well, i'd argue it may be a waste of resources given the various looming crises humanity is trundling toward, but it's not the worst offender.
And given that it probably results in MOAR HUMAANZ being produced, who are themselves a resource, at least it's getting a return.

[Nailed to the Perch]

I generally don't like long haired people.

Well, that's hilariously shallow.

[Ifreann]

I generally don't like long haired people.

Well, that's hilariously shallow.

Get a job, long hairs!

[Des-Bal]

I'll ask you the same question: Can you give an example of flamboyance (commonly found) in heterosexuals that annoys you?

Exaggerated excitement is a fairly unisex one.

[Ostroeuropa]

What was the point of posting a link nobody can read?

Not everyone is Anglophone.

I talk about MY experience.

In Brazil everyone knows of these gays who hate sissies. They have issues. Period.

It sounds like Brazil needs to read this thread.
Didn't you ALREADY concede that merely hating these traits is perfectly fine?
Provided you don't hate them BECAUSE of the gender or sexuality of the person exhibiting them?

[Jello Biafra]

Do you typically associate vapid teenage gossip with teenagers of both sexes, or just teenage girls?

I don't really know or care who does it more, but if it will please your sensibilities, I will indicate that I also have a problem with sports because they are a vast waste of time and money and they promote a fraternity-style climate of anti-intellectualism.

Flamboyant sports fans, or all sports fans?

[Des-Bal]

Not everyone is Anglophone.

I talk about MY experience.

In Brazil everyone knows of these gays who hate sissies. They have issues. Period.

Everyone on this forum is writing and reading English. Assuming they can read English is a safe bet, assuming they can read Portugese is NOT a safe bet.

[Saint Kitten]

How about escaping the black culture? Not to be racists, but you guys are making a huge deal about Zimmerman and Treyvon.

[Ostroeuropa]

It also seeks to imply that homosexuals, left to their own devices, would ALL be flamboyant and such.
Fuck that.
That's not how this shit works. In fact, it's a stunningly homophobic stance to take.

Not in any way.

There are affected, effeminate and homosexual men.

All three group overlap, but none is necessary in and of each other.

What I saw here was people confusing affected with effeminate, and questioning whether reforcing an effeminate stereotype is liberating or denigrating to the whole of gay people.

What I note is some of those opinions, generally those on the 'denigrating side', don't seem to hold in account individual freedom, and how one should be free to be whatever one wants.

Sure.
If they want to act like that, go ahead.
Just stop calling it gay culture, because it isn't gay culture.
Call it gay pride culture, or shit, Effeminate gay culture.
Eithers good. But calling it gay culture negatively affects non-effeminate gays.

[Krjder]

The OP is right. I'm a bisexual, I'm in the closet to most, apart from my secret boyfriend. Lots of gays go over the top with being feminine. It's quite annoying and very stereotypical. And as for the use of 'gay', it's quite overated, e.g:
"Sorry sir, the ride is closed"
"Argh, that's so gay!"

[Verbal Pararhea]

Do you own a TV? Do you ever eat desserts? Just curious.

Actually no, I don't watch television.

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

Not everyone is Anglophone.

I talk about MY experience.

In Brazil everyone knows of these gays who hate sissies. They have issues. Period.

It sounds like Brazil needs to read this thread.
Didn't you ALREADY concede that merely hating these traits is perfectly fine?
Provided you don't hate them BECAUSE of the gender or sexuality of the person exhibiting them?

Everyone is free to like whatever personality type they want.

Not all non-masculine people are affected, though.

[Carnivorous Flying Lunchboxes]

http://osentendidos.com/2013/03/13/essa ... epresenta/

What was the point of posting a link nobody can read?

I could. Well basically I mean. I'm sure I didn't get it all.