Sexism in video games.

[Gauntleted Fist]

I refuse to bring my A-game to tee ball.

I mean, that's the thing right? I get paid a lot of fucking money to argue. We don't expect chefs to cook you a meal or architects to design your house. This is what I do for work. You want my time beyond what I find entertaining

Write me a fucking check.

Now you know how IT people feel when someone says, "Hey, you're good with computers, right?"

[Neo Art]

Go ahead and explain how that game, in of itself, harms people.

I'll wait.

Either you don't believe Holocaust survivors or the friends and family of those who died in the Holocaust are people (which...would explain some things) or you somehow don't think someone saying, "It's so cool the way I can reenact murdering your siblings in front of you like the filthy kikes they are!" is harmful. Which would require a definition of "harmful" so fucking stupid that it defies belief.

we've found the motto. Nsg: so fucking stupid that it defies belief.

[Nailed to the Perch]

Yes, and every healer needs someone who can actually deal out damage to keep him from dying repeatedly.

(But seriously, healer classes are fun too. While rogue and roguelike characters tend to be my favorites, healers rank not too far behind. I'm not sure there exists a class I don't like playing from time to time.)

Healers and crowd control are my favorites, usually.

Tanks are kinda boring. You just pretty much just stand there and yell COME AT ME BRO for every single dungeon.

Yeah, tanks are probably my least favorite. There's times when it's fun just to be all "OH HAI I AM LARGE AND SCARY, COME AT ME BRO" (especially for someone like me, who, in real life, is kind of the opposite of large and scary), but it gets kind of dull after a while. I like my characters small, fast, sneaky, and able to STAB YOUR KIDNEYS OUT.

[Ifreann]

Go ahead and explain how that game, in of itself, harms people.

I'll wait.

Either you don't believe Holocaust survivors or the friends and family of those who died in the Holocaust are people (which...would explain some things) or you somehow don't think someone saying, "It's so cool the way I can reenact murdering your siblings in front of you like the filthy kikes they are!" is harmful. Which would require a definition of "harmful" so fucking stupid that it defies belief.

It's only harm if you have broken bones, open wounds, failing organs, and the like. Emotional and mental trauma aren't real. Everyone knows that.

[Aurora Novus]

Go ahead and explain how that game, in of itself, harms people.

I'll wait.

Decapitation, in and of itself, does not kill anyone. Events that are directly linked to the decapitation and caused by the decapitation do. Yet you'd be pretty ignorant to claim that decapitation doesn't lead to death.

Yes, because decapitation and playing a video game are completely similar.

Because people have no capability to differentiate between fantasy and reality.

I suppose Super Mario breeds violence against turtles too, hm?

[Edlichbury]

Healers and crowd control are my favorites, usually.

Tanks are kinda boring. You just pretty much just stand there and yell COME AT ME BRO for every single dungeon.

Yeah, tanks are probably my least favorite. There's times when it's fun just to be all "OH HAI I AM LARGE AND SCARY, COME AT ME BRO" (especially for someone me, who, in real life, is kind of the opposite of large and scary), but it gets kind of dull after a while. I like my characters small, fast, sneaky, and able to STAB YOUR KIDNEYS OUT.

I cast Sanctuary! No kidney stabbing for you!

[Stedicules]

It's a male dominated field, so obviously there's going to be sexy women in video games.

[Neo Art]

Either you don't believe Holocaust survivors or the friends and family of those who died in the Holocaust are people (which...would explain some things) or you somehow don't think someone saying, "It's so cool the way I can reenact murdering your siblings in front of you like the filthy kikes they are!" is harmful. Which would require a definition of "harmful" so fucking stupid that it defies belief.

It's only harm if you have broken bones, open wounds, failing organs, and the like. Emotional and mental trauma aren't real. Everyone knows that.

Alternate motto: the manliest of manly men, until mom comes back and makes us do our homework

[Choronzon]

I refuse to bring my A-game to tee ball.

I mean, that's the thing right? I get paid a lot of fucking money to argue. We don't expect chefs to cook you a meal or architects to design your house. This is what I do for work. You want my time beyond what I find entertaining

Write me a fucking check.

I mean, really, whats the point of writing a well crafted, nuanced argument for people who aren't going to fucking understand it?

[Gauntleted Fist]

Healers and crowd control are my favorites, usually.

Tanks are kinda boring. You just pretty much just stand there and yell COME AT ME BRO for every single dungeon.

Yeah, tanks are probably my least favorite. There's times when it's fun just to be all "OH HAI I AM LARGE AND SCARY, COME AT ME BRO" (especially for someone me, who, in real life, is kind of the opposite of large and scary), but it gets kind of dull after a while. I like my characters small, fast, sneaky, and able to STAB YOUR KIDNEYS OUT.

I like when I fat finger my cooldowns as a tank and get to say to people, "Well, I guess i'm just going to have to ENJOY my invincibility!"

It's the funnest thing in the world in PvP for six or seven people to be beating on you and you just sit there going "Nanananana BATMAN" and leap out like you own the fucking place.

[Edlichbury]

Decapitation, in and of itself, does not kill anyone. Events that are directly linked to the decapitation and caused by the decapitation do. Yet you'd be pretty ignorant to claim that decapitation doesn't lead to death.

Yes, because decapitation and playing a video game are completely similar.

Because people have no capability to differentiate between fantasy and reality.

I suppose Super Mario breeds violence against turtles too, hm?

Based on how long you spent in this thread braying that portraying women as only useful for sex isn't inherently sexist, I'd rather confidently state some people have no capability to differentiate between fantasy and reality.

[Aurora Novus]

Go ahead and explain how that game, in of itself, harms people.

I'll wait.

Either you don't believe Holocaust survivors or the friends and family of those who died in the Holocaust are people (which...would explain some things) or you somehow don't think someone saying, "It's so cool the way I can reenact murdering your siblings in front of you like the filthy kikes they are!" is harmful.

The latter.

It generates no real harm. "Hurt feelings" are not real harm. They can, you know, not play the game.

Further more, simply playing such a game is not the same as supporting the actions or beliefs therein in real life. Again, it's fantasy. It's not real.

Or do you think every person who kills another "human being" in a video game is secretly a budding murderer?

[Choronzon]

Healers and crowd control are my favorites, usually.

Tanks are kinda boring. You just pretty much just stand there and yell COME AT ME BRO for every single dungeon.

Yeah, tanks are probably my least favorite. There's times when it's fun just to be all "OH HAI I AM LARGE AND SCARY, COME AT ME BRO" (especially for someone like me, who, in real life, is kind of the opposite of large and scary), but it gets kind of dull after a while. I like my characters small, fast, sneaky, and able to STAB YOUR KIDNEYS OUT.

I also like Rangers/Druids. Its kinda satisfying to just go "Release the hounds," and then just watch.

[The Emerald Legion]

Having female players who wish to play females, be forced to serve as sex appeal as opposed to being able to choose it is misogyny. Just like forcing a woman to go about her daily business in a bikini and heels would be.

You're forcing them to present themselves in a certain manner solely to please the male players. How is that not mysoginistic?

Is it misandrist that the male characters are forced to dress in a manner that makes them hulky and buff, something stereotypically attractive to females?
I'm genuinely asking.
For me it's both or neither. I'm not convinced yet.
It's an escapist reality, and who wouldn't want to be sexy. Most guys will like the way the girls look like that. Most girls will like the way the guys look, so it's just cost-effective.
Character customization, when it expands, will leave this thing in the dust anyway.

Except, usually that isn't the case. I've never seen an RPG where some manner of visually not sexy male wasn't an option in the character creater. Be it an Orc, A dwarf, a wizened old man. Men have options beyond He-Man. Whereas the only female character with any plot significance I've ever seen in my entire gaming hobbie of nearly 20 years who could not be called sexy is Kreia.

[The Parkus Empire]

It generates no real harm. "Hurt feelings" are not real harm.

I tell my PTSD friend this every time I traumatize him. Gives me a kick.

[Ostroeuropa]

is confederate states of america
(the movie)
A glorification of slavery?
Is it harmful as a result?
Either way, i'd argue it's a semi-important piece of work, and isn't worth banning or anything.

This is doubly true of Birth of a Nation.

[Choronzon]

Either you don't believe Holocaust survivors or the friends and family of those who died in the Holocaust are people (which...would explain some things) or you somehow don't think someone saying, "It's so cool the way I can reenact murdering your siblings in front of you like the filthy kikes they are!" is harmful.

The latter.

It generates no real harm. "Hurt feelings" are not real harm.

Alternate motto: the manliest of manly men, until mom comes back and makes us do our homework

[Gauntleted Fist]

Either you don't believe Holocaust survivors or the friends and family of those who died in the Holocaust are people (which...would explain some things) or you somehow don't think someone saying, "It's so cool the way I can reenact murdering your siblings in front of you like the filthy kikes they are!" is harmful.

The latter.

It generates no real harm. "Hurt feelings" are not real harm. They can, you know, not play the game.

Further more, simply playing such a game is not the same as supporting the actions or beliefs therein in real life. Again, it's fantasy. It's not real.

Or do you think every person who kills another "human being" in a video game is secretly a budding murderer?

It's only harm if you have broken bones, open wounds, failing organs, and the like. Emotional and mental trauma aren't real. Everyone knows that.

It's like we've done this song and dance before.

[The Steel Magnolia]

Either you don't believe Holocaust survivors or the friends and family of those who died in the Holocaust are people (which...would explain some things) or you somehow don't think someone saying, "It's so cool the way I can reenact murdering your siblings in front of you like the filthy kikes they are!" is harmful.

The latter.

It generates no real harm. "Hurt feelings" are not real harm. They can, you know, not play the game.

ahahaahahahahahhahaha.

Further more, simply playing such a game is not the same as supporting the actions or beliefs therein in real life. Again, it's fantasy. It's not real.

Or do you think every person who kills another "human being" in a video game is secretly a budding murderer?

Nope, but I sure as hell think that it contributes to a culture of violence and people take their cues about the real world from the media. If you present popular media which infantilizes and dehumanizes social groups, then you have people taking their cues from that media and enacting it in real life.

I'm assuming you also think the it gets better campaign is worthless too, eh? Since "hurt feelings" aren't real harm.

Until someone reaches for a razor.

[Aurora Novus]

Yes, because decapitation and playing a video game are completely similar.

Because people have no capability to differentiate between fantasy and reality.

I suppose Super Mario breeds violence against turtles too, hm?

Based on how long you spent in this thread braying that portraying women as only useful for sex isn't inherently sexist

It's not more sexist than having female NPCs who's only purpose is to walk around in the background, sell you items, or give you information.

Simply because a character isn't three dimensional, and completely in line with reality, doesn't make that character sexist, racist, or whatever idiotic name you'd label it. It simply makes them a lacking character. It's at best an artistic fault; not a social issue.

[Edlichbury]

Either you don't believe Holocaust survivors or the friends and family of those who died in the Holocaust are people (which...would explain some things) or you somehow don't think someone saying, "It's so cool the way I can reenact murdering your siblings in front of you like the filthy kikes they are!" is harmful.

The latter.

It generates no real harm. "Hurt feelings" are not real harm. They can, you know, not play the game.

Further more, simply playing such a game is not the same as supporting the actions or beliefs therein in real life. Again, it's fantasy. It's not real.

OR do you think every person who kills another "human being" in a video game is secretly a budding murderer?

That's grade-A bullshit right there. In fact, it is perhaps the height of intellectually dishonesty I've ever seen on NSG. It's that fucking bad.

You know absolutely nothing about any modern science if you can honestly state that you don't believe emotional trauma can lead to "real harm."

[The Parkus Empire]

is confederate states of america
(the movie)
A glorification of slavery?
Is it harmful as a result?
Either way, i'd argue it's a semi-important piece of work, and isn't worth banning or anything.

This is doubly true of Birth of a Nation.

Yet people agree that those are racist--nor do they make up such a large percentage of film. Seems there's more willful denial of sexism.

[Releign]

Evony
Wartune
Shadowrealm
Any other online fantasy RPG in existence.
I play GW2, WOW, LoL, and some other games that make SURE to appeal to dem nerdy perverts.
My friend only started playing wartune because it promised virtual sex

[Aurora Novus]

It generates no real harm. "Hurt feelings" are not real harm.

I tell my PTSD friend this every time I traumatize him. Gives me a kick.

Your argument might have some merit if, you know, we were proposing forcing people to play such a game. But we're not.

[Nailed to the Perch]

Yeah, tanks are probably my least favorite. There's times when it's fun just to be all "OH HAI I AM LARGE AND SCARY, COME AT ME BRO" (especially for someone me, who, in real life, is kind of the opposite of large and scary), but it gets kind of dull after a while. I like my characters small, fast, sneaky, and able to STAB YOUR KIDNEYS OUT.

I like when I fat finger my cooldowns as a tank and get to say to people, "Well, I guess i'm just going to have to ENJOY my invincibility!"

It's the funnest thing in the world in PvP for six or seven people to be beating on you and you just sit there going "Nanananana BATMAN" and leap out like you own the fucking place.

I admit, I used to entertain myself with my pally in WoW from time to time by playing "how long can I make this fight go on without actually bothering to fight back" (or, even better, "can I manage to WIN this fight while never actually swinging my sword, but just letting my buffs damage them while they beat on me").