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Postby Neo Art » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:16 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:you're right, we're done.


Oh child. You were done a long time ago.
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Postby Nailed to the Perch » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:16 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Not what she said she needed the money for. She said she needed it for research. Considering the game footage she uses is publically available... she probably doesn't even buy the games.


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Postby Novislavia » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:17 pm

Nailed to the Perch wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Not what she said she needed the money for. She said she needed it for research. Considering the game footage she uses is publically available... she probably doesn't even buy the games.


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That's too many video games. Where does she get the money for that?

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:18 pm

Nailed to the Perch wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Not what she said she needed the money for. She said she needed it for research. Considering the game footage she uses is publically available... she probably doesn't even buy the games.


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I retract my statement.
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There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Postby Neo Art » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:19 pm

Nailed to the Perch wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Not what she said she needed the money for. She said she needed it for research. Considering the game footage she uses is publically available... she probably doesn't even buy the games.


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Fake. You can tell by the pixles.

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Postby Dezumanian Tribe » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:19 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Perhaps because most people don't actually know.


Don't actually know what, that most lead characters in media are white heterosexual males?
Bullshit.
You'd have to be so insanely stupid not to notice it that you couldn't even find the internet in the first place.
Find me someone who thinks most lead characters in media aren't white heterosexual males.


The problem isn't that people are retarded, it is that sexism is so normalized that any attempts to question it is percieved as ultra-radical and catches a ton of flak.

Edit: *The problem isn't only
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Postby Nailed to the Perch » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:19 pm

Novislavia wrote:
Nailed to the Perch wrote:
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That's too many video games. Where does she get the money for that?


http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/566 ... ideo-games
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:19 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Nailed to the Perch wrote:


Fake. You can tell by the pixles.

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Another useless posting day Neo?
I wonder if you've managed to rack up more than a dozen or so that aren't just mocking people.
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There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Postby Neo Art » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:19 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:I retract my statement.


Now, what did we learn?
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Postby Dakini » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:20 pm

Novislavia wrote:
Nailed to the Perch wrote:
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That's too many video games. Where does she get the money for that?

People paid her on kickstarter to buy them.


And then more people gave her more money after she was harassed all over the internet so she was able to buy even more video games!

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:21 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:I retract my statement.


Now, what did we learn?


That Intellectual honesty doesn't effect your rate of shitposting.
I'm not going to respond to you any further until you have something to actually say, in fact, unless someone else points it out i'm not even going to read them.
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There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Postby Novislavia » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:21 pm

Nailed to the Perch wrote:
Novislavia wrote:That's too many video games. Where does she get the money for that?


http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/566 ... ideo-games

I do have a feeling something is morally wrong with requesting money for "research" when all she's really doing is buying video games. Research my ass. She could go on YouTube and do just as much research with those "let's play" thingies.
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Postby Neo Art » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:21 pm

Dezumanian Tribe wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Don't actually know what, that most lead characters in media are white heterosexual males?
Bullshit.
You'd have to be so insanely stupid not to notice it that you couldn't even find the internet in the first place.
Find me someone who thinks most lead characters in media aren't white heterosexual males.


The problem isn't that people are retarded, it is that sexism is so normalized that any attempts to question it is percieved as ultra-radical and catches a ton of flak.

Edit: *The problem isn't only


Jesus Christ, for the last fucking time, the problem is that sexism is generally institutionalized to the point where it doesn't appear abnormal so that....

Wait..you...that's what you said. Like, someone actually gets that? Really? Someone understands that point?

Who the fuck are you?
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:23 pm

Dezumanian Tribe wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Don't actually know what, that most lead characters in media are white heterosexual males?
Bullshit.
You'd have to be so insanely stupid not to notice it that you couldn't even find the internet in the first place.
Find me someone who thinks most lead characters in media aren't white heterosexual males.


The problem isn't that people are retarded, it is that sexism is so normalized that any attempts to question it is percieved as ultra-radical and catches a ton of flak.

Edit: *The problem isn't only


Do any individuals not notice that white heterosexual males are disproportionately main characters.
Can you demonstrate this, and find me such an individual. Ideally, not from NS since they may well be trolling.
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There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Postby Dakini » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:23 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:I retract my statement.


Now, what did we learn?

I like how he tried claiming he was well-informed on the subject and thought that anyone believed him before he posted a statement that two seconds on google could disprove.


Well, in case anyone was gullible before..

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Postby Priory Academy USSR » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:23 pm

Neo Art wrote:I'll reitterate my earlier statement. Absolutely fucking pathetic. This is what NSG has become.


>Implying that there were ever high quality arguments against feminism.





Also, on the topic as a whole, I haven't seen much sexism in the video games industry. This isn't because I'm a pro-sexism weirdo, but rather because strategy and indie/small production value games (which are my preferred genres) seem to have far less of it.
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Postby Gauntleted Fist » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:23 pm

Sommorragh wrote:Even if it were sexist, does it really matter?

Obviously a thread about sexism in video games should have nothing to do with actual sexism in video games.


Sommorragh wrote:Are you really that sensitive that you can't handle it? If don't like it, you always have the option of not engaging in it.

For fuck's sake. Oh my fucking god did you not read any of my post?

I have literally thousands of hours of playtime and multiple max level characters on different servers. Holy fucking shit I play the FUCK out of Internet Lightsabers and Blasters. What in the ever-loving hell makes you think I'm too sensitive to handle it?

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Postby Neo Art » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:23 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
Now, what did we learn?


That Intellectual honesty doesn't effect your rate of shitposting.


Aww, shame, I had hoped a life lesson may have worked its way through the haze.

Oh well, some people I guess are just beyond hope.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:24 pm

Dakini wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
Now, what did we learn?

I like how he tried claiming he was well-informed on the subject and thought that anyone believed him before he posted a statement that two seconds on google could disprove.


Well, in case anyone was gullible before..


See, if I say "probably doesn't even need to" i'm not making a factual claim.
Because I HAVN'T researched it.
That's why I hedge.
It's sad you can't tell the difference between a guess and a statement of fact.
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There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Postby Nailed to the Perch » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:24 pm

Novislavia wrote:

I do have a feeling something is morally wrong with requesting money for "research" when all she's really doing is buying video games. Research my ass. She could go on YouTube and do just as much research with those "let's play" thingies.


It's "morally wrong" to say, explicitly, "Your support will go towards production costs, equipment, games and downloadable content," and then spend the money she receives on production costs, equipment, games, and downloadable content?

You have a rather unique definition of "morally wrong."
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Postby Choronzon » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:25 pm

Dakini wrote:Nope. If you can't read the thread or be bothered to look around and see things that are right in front of your face then I'm not going to waste more of my time on you.

The fact that he hasn't made everyone else's ignore list is actually quite astonishing. I mean, perhaps to some its amusing or cute, but I got sick of his shit some time ago.

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Postby Edlichbury » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:25 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Dezumanian Tribe wrote:
The problem isn't that people are retarded, it is that sexism is so normalized that any attempts to question it is percieved as ultra-radical and catches a ton of flak.

Edit: *The problem isn't only


Do any individuals not notice that white heterosexual males are disproportionately main characters.
Can you demonstrate this, and find me such an individual. Ideally, not from NS since they may well be trolling.

I cite this very fucking thread as evidence, as well as the commentators in the very videos you linked to.

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Postby Dakini » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:25 pm

Novislavia wrote:

I do have a feeling something is morally wrong with requesting money for "research" when all she's really doing is buying video games. Research my ass. She could go on YouTube and do just as much research with those "let's play" thingies.

She's a media critic. Her job involves consuming media and critically analyzing it. She decided to release these for free online so everyone could have access to it and instead of finding a company to pay her, she asked the internet if they'd be interested (and they are). Also, she's got, like, an actual studio so you're not staring at her nose hair while she mumbles incoherently into a camera.

I mean, it's a sweet gig, but considering how much people are willing to pay professional athletes for playing games this is pretty negligible.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:26 pm

Edlichbury wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Do any individuals not notice that white heterosexual males are disproportionately main characters.
Can you demonstrate this, and find me such an individual. Ideally, not from NS since they may well be trolling.

I cite this very fucking thread as evidence, as well as the commentators in the very videos you linked to.


Where in this thread. Any post. Because I don't know what to search. You've presumably already read it and know what to search.

In the videos, quote the line where they deny this extremely obvious fact. Timestamp would be nice too.
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There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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Postby Dakini » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:26 pm

Choronzon wrote:
Dakini wrote:Nope. If you can't read the thread or be bothered to look around and see things that are right in front of your face then I'm not going to waste more of my time on you.

The fact that he hasn't made everyone else's ignore list is actually quite astonishing. I mean, perhaps to some its amusing or cute, but I got sick of his shit some time ago.

Sometimes he seems a little less dense than the average...


....but yeah, I think he's going to go the way of TJ for me.

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