Sexism in video games.

[Dakini]

Ever wonder why that is?

I think its partly due to the Nerdy Geeky living in your mom's basement stereotype of gamers.

Dudes, I already linked to the reason earlier in this thread. Then someone else linked two parodies of it.


Seriously. There's a reason why when I play my MUD, despite my character being a nice and friendly person, her demeanor is set to cold. It's because when it's not and I'm around strange men in the game, they insist on trying to make out with her.

[Dakini]

Dudes, I already linked to the reason earlier in this thread. Then someone else linked two parodies of it.


Seriously. There's a reason why when I play my MUD, despite my character being a nice and friendly person, her demeanor is set to cold. It's because when it's not and I'm around strange men in the game, they insist on trying to make out with her.

what the fuck

Yeah...

Fortunately, she currently lives in a relatively small town in the game so the people there all know each other and aren't assholes. Every once in a while a powerhunter comes through though and he goes all like "oh, must harass the locals!" and then my character screams for an adult and goes to hide. I guess now if someone tries to pull that shit she can sic the tiger on him (my character is a ranger... she has a tiger as a companion... it is awesome).

[Dakini]

The video game ads are the #1 reason I use adblock on this website.


There's definitely a lot of sexism in video games.

Anita Sarkeesian has been doing a youtube series on the roles women play in video games, if you're interested.

Man, the shit storm that was sent her way for that. Oy vey.

Yeah, it's almost like sexist assholes want to defend their sexist little no-girls-allowed forts or something.

[Dakini]

Yeah...

Fortunately, she currently lives in a relatively small town in the game so the people there all know each other and aren't assholes. Every once in a while a powerhunter comes through though and he goes all like "oh, must harass the locals!" and then my character screams for an adult and goes to hide. I guess now if someone tries to pull that shit she can sic the tiger on him (my character is a ranger... she has a tiger as a companion... it is awesome).

Well at least all-in-all it's a positive experience, and there's plenty of non-assholes to go around. The whole sexual harassment thing is pretty gross tho

Some people have little in-game relationships and stuff. So they do the whole flirting and making out and whatever thing. When I set my demeanor to cold, I just reject all their advances though and usually people only take one attempt to figure out it's not going anywhere.

I don't play my character as interested in anyone (in part because I'm in an actual relationship and my character and my partner's character are not at all suited for each other and in part because that's kinda weird).

[Dakini]

I'm not complaining. I'm a man so I love it. I'm just explaining it to him.

Sorry but, by calling it "sexism" you remind me of those lesbian vloggers or the other "politcally correct white knight" vloggers

No sexism in this post. No siree.

[Dakini]

Yeah, it's almost like sexist assholes want to defend their sexist little no-girls-allowed forts or something.

Rather sickening. Knew a few people who started blasting Sarkeesain. Deleted them from Facebook and stopped following them on Twitter.

I'm sorry you had to encounter such shitheads to begin with. At least they outed themselves so you don't have to deal with them any more.

[Dakini]

Actually, its because we have gone into a positive feedback loop.

Sexism(Sexy ladies in video games) causes more men to start playing video games. The Industry responds to the increased male gaming sector by adding for sexism.

How is it sexism? IT IS MARKETING. The game is supposed to be bought by teenage boys, and what is better for advetisment to teenage boys than TITS? Seriously, are you guys trying to find things to complain about?

Teenage boys are nowhere near the biggest market for video games (they make up only 13%). Most gamers are in their 30s.

[Dakini]

I don't always approve of how some female characters in games are portrayed but its either
A) RPGs like skyrim where the women are just as strong as the men but their bodies are over sexualized
B) weak useless characters
C) Retarded characters who give women a bad name

So... what about the fact that most males in Skyrim are ultra buff and full of muscles. Aint that sexism?

Male power fantasies are not the same as making women into sex objects.

Here's a comic to explain the difference.

[Dakini]

Teenage boys are nowhere near the biggest market for video games (they make up only 13%). Most gamers are in their 30s.

Men in their 30s like tits too.

And 45% and growing portion of the market has their own tits to stare at.

[Dakini]

Teenage boys are nowhere near the biggest market for video games (they make up only 13%). Most gamers are in their 30s.

Anyone under their forties and male likes the Halo 4 Cortana girl

Anyone?

Including the 45% of the video game market who are women? Or do we not count?

[Dakini]

Male power fantasies are not the same as making women into sex objects.

Here's a comic to explain the difference.

Same logic then, not all men find this women attractive, and women might have a fantasy to look like this girls

Different kind of fantasy.

[Dakini]

Anyone?

Including the 45% of the video game market who are women? Or do we not count?

Sims doesnt count

1. Yes it does.
2. That's not all women play, thanks for the stereotypes.

[Dakini]

Yes in favor of men empowering/idealizing them and making differences for their own gender's benefit. Most of the time Women are degraded for their loss and for men's benefit. I mean if you are for realistic and not idealized characters then good for you. But the idealization of men isn't against them.

So hot women cant be consindered as idealization for females?

Not if you define "hot" to be tiny with giant tits. That's not in the powerful, competent, ass-kicking way.

[Dakini]

Where are you people getting this idea that the women in Skyrim have giant tits? Have you people ever played the game or do you just look at mods?

There is the weight slider, but that just makes them bigger altogether. The only really revealing pieces of armor are the fur armors, and they're revealing for the male characters too. Skyrim is a pretty bad example of sexism in video games, it features several strong female characters who think as well and independently as the male ones, (which doesn't say much given Artificial Stupidity and the fact that it's a single player game).

Actually, it was brought up as an example of a good game initially. Then this post:

I don't always approve of how some female characters in games are portrayed but its either
A) RPGs like skyrim where the women are just as strong as the men but their bodies are over sexualized
B) weak useless characters
C) Retarded characters who give women a bad name

So... what about the fact that most males in Skyrim are ultra buff and full of muscles. Aint that sexism?

Is where we get the "Skyrim is sexist" claims starting. Amazingly, it was someone who doesn't think that video games are generally sexist (except when they're sexist against men).

[Dakini]

Women are also not served well by annoying "girl gamers" who really make a point of making sure you know they're female. It only makes all women in video games targets for trolls because they know that women attract white knights like lightning rods.

You mean making it known that one is female like having a female name? Or using the chat? Or picking a female character?


Please.

[Dakini]

Actually, it was brought up as an example of a good game initially. Then this post:



Is where we get the "Skyrim is sexist" claims starting. Amazingly, it was someone who doesn't think that video games are generally sexist (except when they're sexist against men).

Actually know, I dont find that sexist but I dont find what you find sexist as sexist either. I was just applying YOUR logic to the male characters

Except that you're not. You're just proving that you don't understand.

Also, you were looking for the other kind of no/know there.

[Dakini]

I agree.

*enter obligatory liberal mode*

Stop lying, Drako. You know that's not true.

Soz, some dudes like asses, some dudes like feet and some dudes like dicks. I have a tits fetish (oh look, that rhymed)

Wow! I didn't know that women only mattered when men were looking at them!

[Dakini]

Wow! I didn't know that women only mattered when men were looking at them!

Where did you even get that from?

Your posts, duh.

Apparently women are the sum of sexually appealing parts and nothing more.


...but I'm sure you're not sexist.

[Dakini]

You're comparing something inherently empowering such as personal conditioning, to cup size....



Again, learn the distinction between avatar and object.

No, it something attractive. To males it is the tits of the females, to women it is muscles and hairstyle. Same shit

No. Do I need to show you the comic again? Male characters are not created with being appealing to women in mind. They are created with the goal of being appealing to men. Just like female characters are created with the goal of being appealing to men.

That's a significant part of the problem.

[Dakini]

Those are clothes, not armor...

It doesn't matter because tank shells just bounce off her aura.

Really bad ass sexism.

It is obvious that women born with big tits are sexist and should be ashamed for betraying their gender like that

That's not how it works.

[Dakini]

No. Do I need to show you the comic again? Male characters are not created with being appealing to women in mind. They are created with the goal of being appealing to men. Just like female characters are created with the goal of being appealing to men.

That's a significant part of the problem.

Why is everything created to be appealing to men?

Because we live in a patriarchal society which believes that non-straight non-male people don't count?

Technically, non-white people often don't count either, but that's probably for another thread.

[Dakini]

Women just need to start playing more video games.

If they can outnumber the males, then they can't be peripheral in nature anymore.

We're still the peripheral for movies despite buying most of the tickets.

[Dakini]

No. Do I need to show you the comic again? Male characters are not created with being appealing to women in mind. They are created with the goal of being appealing to men. Just like female characters are created with the goal of being appealing to men.

That's a significant part of the problem.

Are you kidding me? Boy bands are designed to be appealing to men? Really? Really?

We're talking about video games here, buddy. You might want to go find whatever thread you fell out of where you were talking about boy bands.

[Dakini]

And big companies need to start realizing that their target audience does not just boil down to "oily-skinned nerds who fap to any sort of naked skin on a woman and drink Mountain Dew with their Cheetos-fingers all day".

Well, "basement neckbeards" are really the main buyers of video games.

No they're not. I posted stats back on page 1 or 2.

[Dakini]

We're still the peripheral for movies despite buying most of the tickets.

These executives won't learn until their companies aren't profiting anymore. Time for boycotts.

How are we supposed to outnumber the males if we're boycotting?