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Postby Yes Im Biop » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:49 am

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Postby TalamaSKA » Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:14 am

Free Soviets wrote:evolution is true. climate change is real and dangerous. the american civil war was about slavery.

for example, marijuana fights cancer. no, seriously. marijuana fights cancer. every time i mention this, nobody believes me. but it's even on the national cancer institute's website. each new study and report on the subject is like a crazy 'whoa!' moment for the media and/or the internet (and possibly society at large?) for exactly two days, then it just washes away. it's weird.


evolution is true; to what extent? it's probably true in case we are talking about animals, but how did an ape become hundreds of times smarter than rest of the species and even the apes they evolved from? how did some apes improve their mental skills so rapidly and well that they were able to use and make tools?
climate change, probably yes. although it depends whether you think it's man-made or not.
the american civil war was about slavery? oh please, it's as stupid as saying crusades were fought merely to spread the word of jesus christ. you can't be so naive and expect us to take you seriously.

I really would like to see those studies on marijuana fighting cancer, because I've seen also some news about marijuana causing cancer as well.

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Postby Bottle » Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:18 am

TalamaSKA wrote:
Free Soviets wrote:evolution is true. climate change is real and dangerous. the american civil war was about slavery.

for example, marijuana fights cancer. no, seriously. marijuana fights cancer. every time i mention this, nobody believes me. but it's even on the national cancer institute's website. each new study and report on the subject is like a crazy 'whoa!' moment for the media and/or the internet (and possibly society at large?) for exactly two days, then it just washes away. it's weird.


evolution is true; to what extent? it's probably true in case we are talking about animals, but how did an ape become hundreds of times smarter than rest of the species and even the apes they evolved from? how did some apes improve their mental skills so rapidly and well that they were able to use and make tools?

The fact that you think there is any difference between how evolution works in "animals" and how it works in apes (which are animals, btw) suggests that you actually don't know what evolution IS. I'd suggest that you start there before asking questions about how it works.
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Postby Khadgar » Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:21 am

TalamaSKA wrote:
Free Soviets wrote:evolution is true. climate change is real and dangerous. the american civil war was about slavery.

for example, marijuana fights cancer. no, seriously. marijuana fights cancer. every time i mention this, nobody believes me. but it's even on the national cancer institute's website. each new study and report on the subject is like a crazy 'whoa!' moment for the media and/or the internet (and possibly society at large?) for exactly two days, then it just washes away. it's weird.


evolution is true; to what extent? it's probably true in case we are talking about animals, but how did an ape become hundreds of times smarter than rest of the species and even the apes they evolved from? how did some apes improve their mental skills so rapidly and well that they were able to use and make tools?
climate change, probably yes. although it depends whether you think it's man-made or not.
the american civil war was about slavery? oh please, it's as stupid as saying crusades were fought merely to spread the word of jesus christ. you can't be so naive and expect us to take you seriously.

I really would like to see those studies on marijuana fighting cancer, because I've seen also some news about marijuana causing cancer as well.


Dude, corvids make and use tools. It's not a uniquely human or even uniquely ape thing. We're not remotely as special as you think we are.

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Postby Ivory Record » Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:58 am

Khadgar wrote:
TalamaSKA wrote:
evolution is true; to what extent? it's probably true in case we are talking about animals, but how did an ape become hundreds of times smarter than rest of the species and even the apes they evolved from? how did some apes improve their mental skills so rapidly and well that they were able to use and make tools?
climate change, probably yes. although it depends whether you think it's man-made or not.
the american civil war was about slavery? oh please, it's as stupid as saying crusades were fought merely to spread the word of jesus christ. you can't be so naive and expect us to take you seriously.

I really would like to see those studies on marijuana fighting cancer, because I've seen also some news about marijuana causing cancer as well.


Dude, corvids make and use tools. It's not a uniquely human or even uniquely ape thing. We're not remotely as special as you think we are.


To add to that, the only tools I haven't heard of other animals using are electronics, fire, and clothing, and I stand to be corrected on all three of those points in the future, I'm certain.
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:03 am

Wintersun wrote:Jesus was for separation of church and state. I don't see how so many people managed to skip over "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's".


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Postby Grenartia » Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:22 am

Bottle wrote:
The Tofu Islands wrote:In what way is what I wrote clumsy "New Atheist" invective? By and large, medicine uses pretty much whatever treatments have been shown to work without too much by way of side effects. Most forms of alternative medicine have no evidence backing them beyond the placebo effect (see the earlier link about acupuncture, for example, where "fake acupuncture" with the needles in the "wrong" places works much like as the "real thing").

You were spot on. It's completely appropriate to use sweeping statements when they actually apply. For instance, "All canines are mammals." Likewise, "If alternative medicine actually worked, it would be called medicine." Simple, factual, true.

Indeed, the few things that the alternative medicine crowd try to claim as their own which actually work are really just mainstream medicine that they stuck some crystals on. For instance, sensible dietary suggestions, physical programs such as yoga, and relaxation exercises.


Basically, snakeoil laced with aspirin.

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Dragomere wrote:The Nazi's had the world's first nuclear bomb.


First jet Aircraft, First Guided bomb, Liquid fueled rocket, and I believe Weaponized UAV


Also scientific proof of that smoking is bad for you. And the most effective anti-smoking campaign in German history.

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Yes Im Biop wrote:First jet Aircraft, First Guided bomb, Liquid fueled rocket, and I believe Weaponized UAV

But not the first nuclear bomb.


Indeed. Makes me wonder what Dragomere's been smoking...

TalamaSKA wrote:
Free Soviets wrote:evolution is true. climate change is real and dangerous. the american civil war was about slavery.

for example, marijuana fights cancer. no, seriously. marijuana fights cancer. every time i mention this, nobody believes me. but it's even on the national cancer institute's website. each new study and report on the subject is like a crazy 'whoa!' moment for the media and/or the internet (and possibly society at large?) for exactly two days, then it just washes away. it's weird.
the american civil war was about slavery? oh please, it's as stupid as saying crusades were fought merely to spread the word of jesus christ. you can't be so naive and expect us to take you seriously.


Actually, the Civil war was pretty much about slavery. Specifically, states' rights to allow it or not, although states' rights to secede was more or less a secondary issue, prompted only by needless paranoia that "LINCOLN'S COMIN' TO TAKE OUR SLAVES!!!!1" (sounds a lot like the shit we hear today from the anti-Obama people regarding guns, minus the actual state secessions). Basically, without slavery, there wouldn't have been a Civil war.
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Postby Divair » Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:25 am

TalamaSKA wrote:evolution is true; to what extent?

It is entirely true.

http://anthro.palomar.edu/evolve/evolve_3.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
http://www.txtwriter.com/backgrounders/ ... tents.html
http://bioweb.cs.earlham.edu/9-12/evolu ... /live.html
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... 0/lines_01
http://www.nature.com/nature/newspdf/evolutiongems.pdf
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... _tiktaalik
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... /devitt_01
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... history_23
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... history_16
http://www.allaboutcreation.org/evidenc ... lution.htm
http://www.nyu.edu/projects/fitch/cours ... dence.html
http://www.imls.uzh.ch/research/noll/pu ... 73_785.pdf
http://www.cell.com/developmental-cell/ ... 0703003253
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.gate.net/~rwms/hum_ape_chrom.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/07/scien ... .html?_r=1
http://jhered.oxfordjournals.org/content/91/3/221
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 1006000526
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/310/5746/287
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.evolutionpages.com/chromosome_2.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-WAHpC0Ah0
http://www.indiana.edu/~ensiweb/lessons/molb.ws.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 ... 331a0.html
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 050603.php
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 071801.php
http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/e_20060327/evo.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://scienceray.com/biology/zoology/a ... maritimus/
http://facstaff.gpc.edu/~pgore/geology/ ... vation.pdf
http://www.nmsr.org/nylon.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc ... l#atavisms

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Postby Eleutheria » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:39 am

That Roman and Ancient Greek statues weren't ivory white marble, they were painted gaudily and vibrantly.
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Postby Bottle » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:45 am

Eleutheria wrote:That Roman and Ancient Greek statues weren't ivory white marble, they were painted gaudily and vibrantly.

And, if memory serves, this was actually known by the Renaissance. The reason that many of the great sculptures of that era stuck to plain marble was because they preferred the aesthetic, but they knew it wasn't actually how the ancient masters did things.
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Postby Eleutheria » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:54 am

Bottle wrote:
Eleutheria wrote:That Roman and Ancient Greek statues weren't ivory white marble, they were painted gaudily and vibrantly.

And, if memory serves, this was actually known by the Renaissance. The reason that many of the great sculptures of that era stuck to plain marble was because they preferred the aesthetic, but they knew it wasn't actually how the ancient masters did things.

It's been widely known in Acadamia for a long time. I read somewhere that many Victorian archaeologists were so appalled by the vibrant colours that they actually wiped them off.
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Postby Bottle » Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:02 am

Eleutheria wrote:
Bottle wrote:And, if memory serves, this was actually known by the Renaissance. The reason that many of the great sculptures of that era stuck to plain marble was because they preferred the aesthetic, but they knew it wasn't actually how the ancient masters did things.

It's been widely known in Acadamia for a long time. I read somewhere that many Victorian archaeologists were so appalled by the vibrant colours that they actually wiped them off.

Although I do prefer the plain look myself, due to my constitutional inclination toward minimalism, I have to admit that it made me really happy when I learned that the ancient sculptures were painted in bright colors. There was just something so...human about those garish colors. In a weird way it made me feel closer to the ancient artists who decorated with a color scheme that would not have been out of place in a 1985 nightclub.
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Postby Prizea » Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:33 am

Divair wrote:
TalamaSKA wrote:evolution is true; to what extent?

It is entirely true.

http://anthro.palomar.edu/evolve/evolve_3.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
http://www.txtwriter.com/backgrounders/ ... tents.html
http://bioweb.cs.earlham.edu/9-12/evolu ... /live.html
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... 0/lines_01
http://www.nature.com/nature/newspdf/evolutiongems.pdf
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... _tiktaalik
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... /devitt_01
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... history_23
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... history_16
http://www.allaboutcreation.org/evidenc ... lution.htm
http://www.nyu.edu/projects/fitch/cours ... dence.html
http://www.imls.uzh.ch/research/noll/pu ... 73_785.pdf
http://www.cell.com/developmental-cell/ ... 0703003253
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.gate.net/~rwms/hum_ape_chrom.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/07/scien ... .html?_r=1
http://jhered.oxfordjournals.org/content/91/3/221
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 1006000526
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/310/5746/287
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.evolutionpages.com/chromosome_2.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-WAHpC0Ah0
http://www.indiana.edu/~ensiweb/lessons/molb.ws.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 ... 331a0.html
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 050603.php
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 071801.php
http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/e_20060327/evo.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://scienceray.com/biology/zoology/a ... maritimus/
http://facstaff.gpc.edu/~pgore/geology/ ... vation.pdf
http://www.nmsr.org/nylon.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc ... l#atavisms


Citation needed. :roll:

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Postby Divair » Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:34 am

Prizea wrote:
Divair wrote:It is entirely true.

http://anthro.palomar.edu/evolve/evolve_3.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
http://www.txtwriter.com/backgrounders/ ... tents.html
http://bioweb.cs.earlham.edu/9-12/evolu ... /live.html
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... 0/lines_01
http://www.nature.com/nature/newspdf/evolutiongems.pdf
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... _tiktaalik
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... /devitt_01
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... history_23
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... history_16
http://www.allaboutcreation.org/evidenc ... lution.htm
http://www.nyu.edu/projects/fitch/cours ... dence.html
http://www.imls.uzh.ch/research/noll/pu ... 73_785.pdf
http://www.cell.com/developmental-cell/ ... 0703003253
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.gate.net/~rwms/hum_ape_chrom.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/07/scien ... .html?_r=1
http://jhered.oxfordjournals.org/content/91/3/221
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 1006000526
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/310/5746/287
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.evolutionpages.com/chromosome_2.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-WAHpC0Ah0
http://www.indiana.edu/~ensiweb/lessons/molb.ws.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 ... 331a0.html
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 050603.php
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 071801.php
http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/e_20060327/evo.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://scienceray.com/biology/zoology/a ... maritimus/
http://facstaff.gpc.edu/~pgore/geology/ ... vation.pdf
http://www.nmsr.org/nylon.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc ... l#atavisms


Citation needed. :roll:

You're not funny, you know.

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Postby Prizea » Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:36 am

Grenartia wrote:
Bottle wrote:You were spot on. It's completely appropriate to use sweeping statements when they actually apply. For instance, "All canines are mammals." Likewise, "If alternative medicine actually worked, it would be called medicine." Simple, factual, true.

Indeed, the few things that the alternative medicine crowd try to claim as their own which actually work are really just mainstream medicine that they stuck some crystals on. For instance, sensible dietary suggestions, physical programs such as yoga, and relaxation exercises.


Basically, snakeoil laced with aspirin.

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First jet Aircraft, First Guided bomb, Liquid fueled rocket, and I believe Weaponized UAV


Also scientific proof of that smoking is bad for you. And the most effective anti-smoking campaign in German history.

Conscentia wrote:But not the first nuclear bomb.


Indeed. Makes me wonder what Dragomere's been smoking...

TalamaSKA wrote:the american civil war was about slavery? oh please, it's as stupid as saying crusades were fought merely to spread the word of jesus christ. you can't be so naive and expect us to take you seriously.


Actually, the Civil war was pretty much about slavery. Specifically, states' rights to allow it or not, although states' rights to secede was more or less a secondary issue, prompted only by needless paranoia that "LINCOLN'S COMIN' TO TAKE OUR SLAVES!!!!1" (sounds a lot like the shit we hear today from the anti-Obama people regarding guns, minus the actual state secessions). Basically, without slavery, there wouldn't have been a Civil war.

There was always going to be a civil war, whether about slavery or something else. It comes as part and parcel of being large nation.

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Postby Nimzonia » Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:37 am

Ivory Record wrote:
Khadgar wrote:
Dude, corvids make and use tools. It's not a uniquely human or even uniquely ape thing. We're not remotely as special as you think we are.


To add to that, the only tools I haven't heard of other animals using are electronics, fire, and clothing, and I stand to be corrected on all three of those points in the future, I'm certain.


I thought we were also unique in having invented the unicycle.

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Postby Prizea » Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:37 am

Divair wrote:
Prizea wrote:
Citation needed. :roll:

You're not funny, you know.

I know, but I still couldn't resist it.

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Postby Ivory Record » Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:38 am

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To add to that, the only tools I haven't heard of other animals using are electronics, fire, and clothing, and I stand to be corrected on all three of those points in the future, I'm certain.


I thought we were also unique in having invented the unicycle.


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Postby Divair » Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:38 am

Prizea wrote:
Divair wrote:You're not funny, you know.

I know, but I still couldn't resist it.

It's not even a joke. There's nothing funny about it. If you cannot resist randomly blurting out sentences that don't make sense, maybe this isn't the place for you.

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Postby Condunum » Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:41 am

Divair wrote:
Prizea wrote:I know, but I still couldn't resist it.

It's not even a joke. There's nothing funny about it. If you cannot resist randomly blurting out sentences that don't make sense, maybe this isn't the place for you.

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Postby Grenartia » Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:42 am

Prizea wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Basically, snakeoil laced with aspirin.



Also scientific proof of that smoking is bad for you. And the most effective anti-smoking campaign in German history.



Indeed. Makes me wonder what Dragomere's been smoking...



Actually, the Civil war was pretty much about slavery. Specifically, states' rights to allow it or not, although states' rights to secede was more or less a secondary issue, prompted only by needless paranoia that "LINCOLN'S COMIN' TO TAKE OUR SLAVES!!!!1" (sounds a lot like the shit we hear today from the anti-Obama people regarding guns, minus the actual state secessions). Basically, without slavery, there wouldn't have been a Civil war.

There was always going to be a civil war, whether about slavery or something else. It comes as part and parcel of being large nation.


What about Canada?
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