Things That Should Be Common Knowledge By Now

[Third Mexican Empire]

Pot is not bad for you should be added to this list

I hope you're joking

[Revolutionarily]

Pot is not bad for you should be added to this list

I hope you're joking

I would say the same for you

[Third Mexican Empire]

I hope you're joking

I would say the same for you

You literally have to be high on marijuana to think pot is good for you

[Frisivisia]

I would say the same for you

You literally have to be high on marijuana to think pot is good for you

Pot can be used as a treatment for many things, and though not good for you is still safer and funner than many things that are legal.

[Third Mexican Empire]

You literally have to be high on marijuana to think pot is good for you

Pot can be used as a treatment for many things, and though not good for you is still safer and funner than many things that are legal.

But his claim was that "pot is good for you." That is not the same as saying "marijuana can be a good treatment for some diseases."

[Revolutionarily]

I would say the same for you

You literally have to be high on marijuana to think pot is good for you

Well you see sir...
1) I never said it was good for you i said it wasn't bad for you
2) There are no real harmful side effects to pot. The only thing i could possibly think of is that it brings out paranoia(during the time of the high) in those who are predisposed to mental disorders which can actually be seen as a good thing because it can help you prepare for what might come later on down the road in life.

[Revolutionarily]

Pot can be used as a treatment for many things, and though not good for you is still safer and funner than many things that are legal.

But his claim was that "pot is good for you." That is not the same as saying "marijuana can be a good treatment for some diseases."

Once again i never stated it was good in my original statement, even though it is.

[Regnum Dominae]

Pot can be used as a treatment for many things, and though not good for you is still safer and funner than many things that are legal.

But his claim was that "pot is good for you." That is not the same as saying "marijuana can be a good treatment for some diseases."

When has anyone ever died as a direct result of weed?

[Revolutionarily]

But his claim was that "pot is good for you." That is not the same as saying "marijuana can be a good treatment for some diseases."

When has anyone ever died as a direct result of weed?

never

[Third Mexican Empire]

You literally have to be high on marijuana to think pot is good for you

Well you see sir...
1) I never said it was good for you i said it wasn't bad for you
2) There are no real harmful side effects to pot. The only thing i could possibly think of is that it brings out paranoia(during the time of the high) in those who are predisposed to mental disorders which can actually be seen as a good thing because it can help you prepare for what might come later on down the road in life.

http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/evidence99 ... lth_1.html
http://www2.courtinfo.ca.gov/stopteendu ... ffects.cfm
http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/d ... /marijuana

[Third Mexican Empire]

But his claim was that "pot is good for you." That is not the same as saying "marijuana can be a good treatment for some diseases."

When has anyone ever died as a direct result of weed?

Irrelevant

[Frisivisia]

When has anyone ever died as a direct result of weed?

Irrelevant

I think it's perfectly relevant.

[Third Mexican Empire]

Irrelevant

I think it's perfectly relevant.

Do people really have to die for a substance to be bad for you?

[Revolutionarily]

Well you see sir...
1) I never said it was good for you i said it wasn't bad for you
2) There are no real harmful side effects to pot. The only thing i could possibly think of is that it brings out paranoia(during the time of the high) in those who are predisposed to mental disorders which can actually be seen as a good thing because it can help you prepare for what might come later on down the road in life.

http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/evidence99 ... lth_1.html
http://www2.courtinfo.ca.gov/stopteendu ... ffects.cfm
http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/d ... /marijuana

Alright basically everything i read there was just standard things which occur when you get high/trip. Yes when you eat a lot cannabis you will trip. All of this "hallucinations"and whatever else the first article said is called tripping. It will go away and it leads many people to innovative and creative thoughts. The second thing was about driving. I don't know anyone who messes up driving high. It might be hard but alcohol will make it much harder. In fact most people i know don't drive high because they know something bad will happen. The third article once again just lists things that occur when your high and once again it will all go away.

[Third Mexican Empire]

http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/evidence99 ... lth_1.html
http://www2.courtinfo.ca.gov/stopteendu ... ffects.cfm
http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/d ... /marijuana

Alright basically everything i read there was just standard things which occur when you get high/trip. Yes when you eat a lot cannabis you will trip. All of this "hallucinations"and whatever else the first article said is called tripping. It will go away and it leads many people to innovative and creative thoughts. The second thing was about driving. I don't know anyone who messes up driving high. It might be hard but alcohol will make it much harder. In fact most people i know don't drive high because they know something bad will happen. The third article once again just lists things that occur when your high and once again it will all go away.

There's more in the links than that. There is very suggestive evidence between marijuana and things such as cancer bronchitis, mental diseases, etc. To say it should be common knowledge that marijuana is not bad for you as if it is some established scientific fact is bad. The effects of marijuana on the body are mixed at best, and very bad at worst.

[Regnum Dominae]

I think it's perfectly relevant.

Do people really have to die for a substance to be bad for you?

Well, I personally don't even care if a substance is harmful, as long as no nonconsenting persons are harmed.

[Revolutionarily]

Alright basically everything i read there was just standard things which occur when you get high/trip. Yes when you eat a lot cannabis you will trip. All of this "hallucinations"and whatever else the first article said is called tripping. It will go away and it leads many people to innovative and creative thoughts. The second thing was about driving. I don't know anyone who messes up driving high. It might be hard but alcohol will make it much harder. In fact most people i know don't drive high because they know something bad will happen. The third article once again just lists things that occur when your high and once again it will all go away.

There's more in the links than that. There is very suggestive evidence between marijuana and things such as cancer bronchitis, mental diseases, etc. To say it should be common knowledge that marijuana is not bad for you as if it is some established scientific fact is bad. The effects of marijuana on the body are mixed at best, and very bad at worst.

Inhaling things often is generally not good for your lungs but i would blame that on the blunts and rolling paper that people use. Once again if you are predisposed to mental disorders can experience some mild affects(or more severe if consumed as a food) of it but i have no idea why thc and cbd would do that. It is most likely people who already are on the fringe. You are also forgetting all of the benefits it provides to society. There are numerous medicinal uses for it as well as allowing people to be more creative.

[Anachronous Rex]

Pot can be used as a treatment for many things, and though not good for you is still safer and funner than many things that are legal.

But his claim was that "pot is good for you." That is not the same as saying "marijuana can be a good treatment for some diseases."

Actually his statement was that "pot is not bad for you."

Which is not synonymous with "is good for you."

That there is called "reading comprehension."

[Fireye]

And Libraries.

So you end up with libraries buying it instead.


That changes everything. Or not.

Fewer copies bought overall.

[Menassa]

The Difference between the Torah and the Talmud.

[Divair]

So you end up with libraries buying it instead.


That changes everything. Or not.

Fewer copies bought overall.

That's nice. I'm still waiting for evidence that people are buying the book because it's good.

[Bottle]

You literally have to be high on marijuana to think pot is good for you

Well you see sir...
1) I never said it was good for you i said it wasn't bad for you

That statement is false.

Pot may be "good" for some people, in the sense that it is better for them than any alternative treatments that are available to treat whatever problem they might have.

But pot is most definitely "bad" for a great many people.

For instance, pot is bad for infants. Smoking anything is bad for an infant. Some of the chemicals in marijuana might, theoretically, be developed into effective treatments for illnesses which impact infants, but I guarantee you that none of these treatments will EVER be delivered by blowing smoke in the baby's face. And I guarantee that if a treatment based on cannabis is ever developed for use in infants, it will specifically filter OUT all the psychoactive properties that pot smokers enjoy, because those effects are caused by pharmacological activity that is going to wreak havoc on a developing nervous system.

Pot is also bad for anybody who has respiratory issues. This includes anybody who has asthma, emphysema, or similar ailments. Smoking anything is a bad idea if your respiratory system is already struggling.

In fact, it really is reasonable to say that smoking pot is bad for you, period, since SMOKING is bad, regardless of what you're smoking. It's just not a good thing to do to your airways or lungs.

Now, obviously the next argument will be that pot can be eaten or imbibed through means other than smoking, yes? Great! (You really should have specified that off the bat though!)

Still a problem. Pot is psychoactive. Chronic use of the kronik will impact the receptors that your brain expresses, their sensitivities, and a whole host of other functions. Whether or not this is serious enough to impair your ability to function is going to vary based on your own individual physiology and your individual usage profile, as well as a host of other environmental factors, but that doesn't mean it's not there.

2) There are no real harmful side effects to pot. The only thing i could possibly think of is that it brings out paranoia(during the time of the high) in those who are predisposed to mental disorders which can actually be seen as a good thing because it can help you prepare for what might come later on down the road in life.

I really, really wish people would stop perpetuating this lie.

There are plenty of harmful side effects to pot. Just like there are plenty of harmful side effects to booze, or to any other intoxicant. Impaired motor function and impaired judgment are the most common. There is evidence of an impact on fertility, on birth weights and birth defects, on up/down regulation of receptors for neurotransmitters, even on fucking bone density. It's a drug, people, and there is no drug in existence which has zero side effects. NONE.

Look, I believe pot should be legal and regulated, just like alcohol. But this lying, anti-science bullshit needs to stop.

Some sources:

(This one is a literature review) Hall W, Degenhardt L. The adverse health effects of chronic cannabis use. Drug Test Anal. 2013 Jul 8. doi: 10.1002/dta.1506.

Stella N. Chronic THC intake modifies fundamental cerebellar functions. J Clin Invest. 2013 Jul 1. pii: 70226. doi: 10.1172/JCI70226.

Gowran A, McKayed K, Campbell VA. The cannabinoid receptor type 1 is essential for mesenchymal stem cell survival and differentiation: implications for bone health. Stem Cells Int. 2013;2013:796715. doi: 10.1155/2013/796715. Epub 2013 Jun 24.

Desbois AC, Cacoub P.Ann Vasc Surg. Cannabis-Associated Arterial Disease. 2013 Jul 10. pii: S0890-5096(13)00206-9. doi: 10.1016/j.avsg.2013.01.002.

[The Tofu Islands]

Ugh, why are New Atheist types so clumsy with their invective?

If you want to show how rational and skeptical you are, it helps to not spout sweeping generalizations every 5 threads.

In what way is what I wrote clumsy "New Atheist" invective? By and large, medicine uses pretty much whatever treatments have been shown to work without too much by way of side effects. Most forms of alternative medicine have no evidence backing them beyond the placebo effect (see the earlier link about acupuncture, for example, where "fake acupuncture" with the needles in the "wrong" places works much like as the "real thing").

[Emilio Aguinaldo]

I don't think this was posted so here I go: Columbus did not discover America, he discovered the west indies.

[Ivory Record]

Nuclear power isn't perfectly safe. Since no other power format is, it's an acceptable alternative to coal burning until further alternatives are developed.