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Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:21 am

Ivory Record wrote:That's very nice, but it doesn't address the question, nor is that a year-round situation.

Hmm, what you mean? Yeah, we don't make parades year-round and some people want to make sure they don't even exist (even because it costs public money in certain cases... though the economy profits with the tourism and more). But it isn't Eastern Europe so it won't take place.

We have plenty of violence, but our legislation is one of the most tolerant when it comes to sexuality, and our LGBT community is one of the most lively anywhere (actually, our immigrants are a frequent sight on the scenes of Japan and Portugal about as much as the natives in the places they are present despite being in an unrepresentative minority).

We removed sodomy from the legal code in 1830, it was not prosecuted since 1824 (2 years after we declaring independence from Portugal and 1 year after it being recognized), equalized adoption for all couples in 2010, equalized recognition of cohabitation for same-sex couples saying they are a family entity in May 2011 (after it happened in several states since 2005) while allowing cohabiting couples to have all marriage rights and legalizing same-sex "marriage" (civil union, the legal concept of marriage is inexistent here), equalized same-sex marriage in May 2013 (after it happened in several states since December 2011)...

We ban regulated professionals such as those in the areas of psychiatry and psychology from offering scams like conversion therapy or ever pathologizing homosexuality, we have sexual orientation discrimination protection in a minority of states (plans to create it nationwide are in the hands and pens of Brasília since 1996; they are the most controversial in Brazil rather than SSM as in others because they are either too weak and shunned by LGBTs and those representing them or too strong and interpreted by the Right and by the religious benches as thought police, and everyone starts to scream all those naked men roaming in the streets wanting to shut the mouth of the average person), our government is Constitutionally prohibited from discriminating anyone on any basis (not to say about being secular), homosexuals are accepted in the military since 1969 (long before women).

It is a pretty nice place to live if you are a gay guy. You will just need some self-defense and running skills in a few cases and areas, and put up with the bullying or police not caring about your issues. Besides that, it is great. ._.

Unlike the United States there is nowhere here where prostitution, sex with animals (nothing in Brazilian law ever cited it, be pornography or irl, as I said previously our sodomy law fell in the early-to-mid 19th century), cousins marrying or certain kinds of cartoon porn are illegal. Parent's sibling x sibling's child marriages are also allowed if both have health checks. There is only slut shaming if the "slut" is a member of your family, common sense people would never judge someone was "deservedly rape" as in some other cultures, children born out of the wedlock became a socially accepted thing together with children of divorced parents (who were treated like the earlier) in the mid-to-late 20th century and today no one thinks it is a fuss here, we have a strong law against domestic violence (it is only common in the same rural hinterland areas where they really care about Roman Catholic moral teachings, marry cousins and have sex with animals in high numbers *lols* but we don't cite those as reasons for prejudice against them as people in the USA do against southerners and appalachians) and 7 out of 10 men would do anything to create a situation where there isn't any fight between lovers in a relationship, including verbal ones.

The only dirty parts of our legislation were the ones that said that cuckold husbands would rightfully kill their wives (cultural epidemic in the rural hinterland areas I cite above until this generation) and that marital rape wasn't rape, that survived until 1993, or that if a woman marries her rapist after the alleged rape then it is ignored (part of the law that fell in 1993), but pretty sure the feminists are making their way into make it fall down.

I think we have public decency laws but they aren't taken seriously and apply most for sex. Cis men crossdressing themselves and their kids is the most common thing to do in carnaval.

So, yeah, I believe it is a waaaaaaaaay more sexually liberated place than English-speaking countries.
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Postby Mkuki » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:25 am

Conscentia wrote:The thread topic - return to it.

I think the scientific method should be common knowledge by now. This is unfortunately not the case.

Aye. :blush:

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Postby Ivory Record » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:25 am

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Ivory Record wrote:That's very nice, but it doesn't address the question, nor is that a year-round situation.

Hmm, what you mean?


The question you were asked was "Does Brazil have naked men running around in its streets and cities?" not, "Do you occasionally have pride parades?"




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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:26 am

Mkuki wrote:
Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:The biggest LGBT parade ever was 2009 São Paulo.

4 million and an unsure number of hundreds and tens of thousands more.

The parade of Rio de Janeiro of 2013 had ~3,5 million people. In Brasília, Belo Horizonte, Curitiba, Fortaleza and probably some other it is also above 2 million and in 10 more up to 2 million. Including both the city where I lived with my parents until I was 5 and the city where I was raised by my grandmother and currently live.

Are these people naked, though?

Many of them surely are. ._.

Brazilians don't bother boobs, goos or dicks much. Much less butts.

Elders and children could pass by this and few people would give a fuck:

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Postby Mkuki » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:31 am

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Mkuki wrote:Are these people naked, though?

Many of them surely are. ._.

Brazilians don't bother boobs, goos or dicks much. Much less butts.

Elders and children could pass by this and few people would give a fuck:

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What an odd land...

Can anyone else from Brazil affirm Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro's statement?
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:52 am

They will probably say I'm exaggerating and that it is not like you will get naked legally or semi-naked without people looking at you in the street year-round, but yeah, over people's attitudes over nudity, representation of physical intimacy in media and in the street, the level of physical intimacy you are allowed to have with strangers, how much of your body you may show at beach (everything but the sexual parts of the vulva and the nipples in the case of women, unlike American women who dress like our grandmothers would now, and more conservatively than them when they were young *giggles*), and many other things, Brazilians tend to be competing with western and northern Europeans in liberalness.

People don't push family members to grow a family too soon or too big, and they mostly take account of their own money and lives when their parents no longer look after them (but before this time, it is totalitarianism, no srsly, legal guardians here behave like little Hitlers or Stalins)... So our birth rate is the third lowest in the Americas, 1.7, close to Portugal's 1.5 and only higher than Canada's and Cuba's in the continent... Nothing like the United States' 2.3.

So yeah, for the third world, it is pretty unique. Liriena (Argentine) says we're fabulous. :lol:
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Postby Wind in the Willows » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:09 pm

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BBC News has a liberal bias.

BBC. Liberal bias. Hilarious.



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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:13 pm

Wind in the Willows wrote:
Divair wrote:BBC. Liberal bias. Hilarious.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/412338 ... mmigration

It is not a liberal bias. It is a bias against xenophobia and stupidity.
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Postby Souseiseki » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:15 pm

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Divair wrote:BBC. Liberal bias. Hilarious.



http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/412338 ... mmigration

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Postby Divair » Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:00 pm

Wind in the Willows wrote:
Divair wrote:BBC. Liberal bias. Hilarious.



http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/412338 ... mmigration

A conservative tabloid reports the BBC is liberal. Clearly that means it is.

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Postby Free Soviets » Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:48 pm

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Free Soviets wrote:evolution is true. climate change is real and dangerous. the american civil war was about slavery.

some things are easily shown to be true and have been known for years. and yet, somehow, huge swaths of the population either don't know or outright deny them. that strikes me as fundamentally ridiculous. i mean, even things that have been repeatedly discussed in the media are sometimes reported by that same media organization as new and surprising each time. why? what stops some things from sinking in?

for example, marijuana fights cancer. no, seriously. marijuana fights cancer. every time i mention this, nobody believes me. but it's even on the national cancer institute's website. each new study and report on the subject is like a crazy 'whoa!' moment for the media and/or the internet (and possibly society at large?) for exactly two days, then it just washes away. it's weird.

also, i'm interested to see if i'm just as much part of the problem as anyone else. got any other examples of things that should be common knowledge by now but aren't?

You know what else is true? Sentences start with capital letters.

i suppose it might not be common knowledge by now that i leave off the capitalization on purpose for several reasons...one of which is as a quick way to check who cares about style over substance.

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Postby Oppressorion » Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:47 pm

Free Soviets wrote:i suppose it might not be common knowledge by now that i leave off the capitalization on purpose for several reasons...one of which is as a quick way to check who cares about style over substance.

So you'd be totally okay if, for example, your President developed a strong speach impediment for his next speech?
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Postby Free Soviets » Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:57 pm

Oppressorion wrote:
Free Soviets wrote:i suppose it might not be common knowledge by now that i leave off the capitalization on purpose for several reasons...one of which is as a quick way to check who cares about style over substance.

So you'd be totally okay if, for example, your President developed a strong speach impediment for his next speech?

the substance of a speech involves conveying information orally. so an inability to make give a easily-understood speech is analogous to an inability write a coherent sentence. this is distinct from violating certain conventions without doing any damage to the understandability.

my lack of caps is more akin to the president giving a speech while wearing an aloha shirt.

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Postby Breadknife » Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:30 pm

Free Soviets wrote:
Oppressorion wrote:So you'd be totally okay if, for example, your President developed a strong speach impediment for his next speech?

the substance of a speech involves conveying information orally. so an inability to make give a easily-understood speech is analogous to an inability write a coherent sentence. this is distinct from violating certain conventions without doing any damage to the understandability.

my lack of caps is more akin to the president giving a speech while wearing an aloha shirt.


I dunno. I suspect the "aloha shirt" would be less distracting. Non-standard word forms (even in such a trivial manner as using all lower-case) trip up my reading style. I don't know if it trips anyone else up. (Misplaced apostrophes, also. And now you know how to annoy me.) Although I know that I find it much harder to read (and I'm a very prolific reader) than other even more surprisingly different munges and obfuscations.

.lla ta ytluciffid on htiw sdrawkcab is taht txet dradnats etirw dna daer nac I ...elpmaxe roF

(Although, when writing, it does force me to think ahead, in order to start typing at the back-end and retreat back to the beginning. Which, given the drivel I sometimes come up with, is probably an advantage over having long, run-away sentences that (case in point, this one) ramble on beyond their natural life and get further edits packed into them only just prior to posting. In contrast, the above one-line paragraph remained as simple when written as it had originally started in my head. This one did not.)

I don't think I've said anything required to be common knowledge, however, so please ignore.
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Postby Oppressorion » Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:41 pm

Breadknife wrote:.lla ta ytluciffid on htiw sdrawkcab si is taht txet dradnats etirw dna daer nac I ...elpmaxe roF
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A zebra is a white horse with black stripes

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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:36 am

Britannia I wrote:A zebra is a white horse with black stripes


No, it is the other way around. They are black with white stripes.
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Postby Xsyne » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:06 am

L Ron Cupboard wrote:
Britannia I wrote:A zebra is a white horse with black stripes


No, it is the other way around. They are black with white stripes.

They're brown with black and white stripes.
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Postby Divair » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:10 am

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No, it is the other way around. They are black with white stripes.

They're brown with black and white stripes.

They're pink with rainbow stripes.

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Postby Xsyne » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:13 am

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Xsyne wrote:They're brown with black and white stripes.

They're pink with rainbow stripes.

They're filmed in black and white, though, so most people don't notice.
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Postby Divair » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:14 am

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Divair wrote:They're pink with rainbow stripes.

They're filmed in black and white, though, so most people don't notice.

Well, they invented colour in the 40's, that's why photos were black and white before that.

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Postby Blakk Metal » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:57 am

Divair wrote:
Xsyne wrote:They're filmed in black and white, though, so most people don't notice.

Well, they invented colour in the 40's, that's why photos were black and white before that.

What about those mugshots in the Seventies? Why are they black and white?

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Postby Divair » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:59 am

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Divair wrote:Well, they invented colour in the 40's, that's why photos were black and white before that.

What about those mugshots in the Seventies? Why are they black and white?

We had a colour crisis and ran out.

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