Texas Finally Passes Abortion Bill!

[Asuiop]

No, you don't understand what an organism is.

A single human cell is not an organism, the human is.

The fact that the cells of my arm do not continue to live on their own if my arm is cut off or if I, as an organism die, means that they are not single-celled organisms. They are part of me, as an organism. They are indisputably human cells and they are indisputably human.

A single cell is not multi-cellular.

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

No "your" did not.


1. No she didn't.
2. She can still choose to revoke consent at any time. Just like with sex.

Combining sperm and egg cells to create an embryo inside of you is forcing it inside of you.

No, when you lock someone in your house, you can't call the cops and tell them that they are trespassing. The same principle applies.

Again, negative ghostrider.

[Bodobol]

No "your" did not.


1. No she didn't.
2. She can still choose to revoke consent at any time. Just like with sex.

Combining sperm and egg cells to create an embryo inside of you is forcing it inside of you.

No, when you lock someone in your house, you can't call the cops and tell them that they are trespassing. The same principle applies.

BREAKING NEWS!

Recent studies have shown that some people actually have sex for enjoyment, and not to get pregnant. Amazing!

[Dragoria]

No "your" did not.


1. No she didn't.
2. She can still choose to revoke consent at any time. Just like with sex.

Combining sperm and egg cells to create an embryo inside of you is forcing it inside of you.

No, when you lock someone in your house, you can't call the cops and tell them that they are trespassing. The same principle applies.

Abortion is "unlocking" the "door" so that the offending individual can kindly GTFO. If that individual walks out the door, directly into traffic, and dies, that doesn't mean it's okay to force everyone else to allow people in their house they don't want there.

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

So basically, the cells of my arm are human cells because they're part of a human organism.

Thank you.

Not unless the cells of your arm are in the process of developing into another person.

u r not understand.
Arm cells are human.
Leg cells are human.
Tongue cells are human.
Human cells are human.
Herp?

[Alyekra]

Combining sperm and egg cells to create an embryo inside of you is forcing it inside of you.

No, when you lock someone in your house, you can't call the cops and tell them that they are trespassing. The same principle applies.

Abortion is "unlocking" the "door" so that the offending individual can kindly GTFO. If that individual walks out the door, directly into traffic, and dies, that doesn't mean it's okay to force everyone else to allow people in their house they don't want there.

No, abortion is cutting the person into pieces, and then throwing them in traffic.

[Asuiop]

Combining sperm and egg cells to create an embryo inside of you is forcing it inside of you.

No, when you lock someone in your house, you can't call the cops and tell them that they are trespassing. The same principle applies.

BREAKING NEWS!

Recent studies have shown that some people actually have sex for enjoyment, and not to get pregnant. Amazing!

Its pleasurable.. So? Locking people in your house and calling the cops on them for trespassing may be enjoyable to you too, except you can't do that.

[Anachronous Rex]

So basically, the cells of my arm are human cells because they're part of a human organism.

Thank you.

Not unless the cells of your arm are in the process of developing into another person.

Hmm... I can make them do that...

[Crumlark]

Very well. Why do you support age-unlockable rights to the body?

I don't. Infants do not have rights to anyone's body either.

By being removed from the womb, which is the specific environment that fetuses are known to survive in, it is quite easy to understand that with incredibly rare circumstances, the unborn will die of exposure. What situation justifies such recklessness to the life (or potential to life, should you claim they are not technically alive without being able to survive independently) of a fetus?

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

Combining sperm and egg cells to create an embryo inside of you is forcing it inside of you.

No, when you lock someone in your house, you can't call the cops and tell them that they are trespassing. The same principle applies.

BREAKING NEWS!

Recent studies have shown that some people actually have sex for enjoyment, and not to get pregnant. Amazing!

Seriously?! Wow! This is lifechanging!

[Dakini]

No "your" did not.


1. No she didn't.
2. She can still choose to revoke consent at any time. Just like with sex.

Combining sperm and egg cells to create an embryo inside of you is forcing it inside of you.

No it's not.

No, when you lock someone in your house, you can't call the cops and tell them that they are trespassing. The same principle applies.

No it's not.

In this case, I'm asking the person I've accidentally let into my house (because I left the door open while setting down the groceries and for some reason they thought they were welcome here) to leave. If they do not leave, then I get to call the cops and have them tossed out.

Except here instead of calling the cops, I'm calling the abortion clinic and having this potential person forcibly removed.

[Alyekra]

Not unless the cells of your arm are in the process of developing into another person.

u r not understand.
Arm cells are human.
Leg cells are human.
Tongue cells are human.
Human cells are human.
Herp?

Derp.

You're right. I am not understand. :P

[Anachronous Rex]

The fact that the cells of my arm do not continue to live on their own if my arm is cut off or if I, as an organism die, means that they are not single-celled organisms. They are part of me, as an organism. They are indisputably human cells and they are indisputably human.

A single cell is not multi-cellular.

Is like saying, "a single ant is not a social creature."

[Bodobol]

BREAKING NEWS!

Recent studies have shown that some people actually have sex for enjoyment, and not to get pregnant. Amazing!

Its pleasurable.. So? Locking people in your house and calling the cops on them for trespassing may be enjoyable to you too, except you can't do that.

So leaving your door open for some fresh air (having sex for enjoyment) does not make it okay for some random person (the fetus) to come in the house.

[Dakini]

I don't. Infants do not have rights to anyone's body either.

By being removed from the womb, which is the specific environment that fetuses are known to survive in, it is quite easy to understand that with incredibly rare circumstances, the unborn will die of exposure. What situation justifies such recklessness to the life (or potential to life, should you claim they are not technically alive without being able to survive independently) of a fetus?

No person or potential person has the right to use another person's body without their permission.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

BREAKING NEWS!

Recent studies have shown that some people actually have sex for enjoyment, and not to get pregnant. Amazing!

Seriously?! Wow! This is lifechanging!

Indeed! We shall all have orgies now, for we have sex for pleasure!

Truly, I wouldn't be surprised if someone took this seriously

[Asuiop]

Combining sperm and egg cells to create an embryo inside of you is forcing it inside of you.

No it's not.

No, when you lock someone in your house, you can't call the cops and tell them that they are trespassing. The same principle applies.

No it's not.

In this case, I'm asking the person I've accidentally let into my house (because I left the door open while setting down the groceries and for some reason they thought they were welcome here) to leave. If they do not leave, then I get to call the cops and have them tossed out.

Except here instead of calling the cops, I'm calling the abortion clinic and having this potential person forcibly removed.

No, its more like:
You invite your friend into your house. Your friend brings another friend, so you shoot the other friend since you didn't invite him here and he is trespassing.

[Dragoria]

Abortion is "unlocking" the "door" so that the offending individual can kindly GTFO. If that individual walks out the door, directly into traffic, and dies, that doesn't mean it's okay to force everyone else to allow people in their house they don't want there.

No, abortion is cutting the person into pieces, and then throwing them in traffic.

Oh, for fuck's sake. A VAGINA IS NOT A HOUSE and people need to stop using that comparison.
Someone is raping you. Are you allowed to defend yourself? Y/N?

[Crumlark]

I, personally, would much rather not be killed for my father's crimes. Thank you very much.

Your father is not the one staying in the woman's body when she no longer wants you there.

Because I obviously have elsewhere to go with reasonable safety.

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

BREAKING NEWS!

Recent studies have shown that some people actually have sex for enjoyment, and not to get pregnant. Amazing!

Its pleasurable.. So? Locking people in your house and calling the cops on them for trespassing may be enjoyable to you too, except you can't do that.

Not even close to equivalent.

[Dakini]

The fact that the cells of my arm do not continue to live on their own if my arm is cut off or if I, as an organism die, means that they are not single-celled organisms. They are part of me, as an organism. They are indisputably human cells and they are indisputably human.

A single cell is not multi-cellular.

The cells in my arm are also not organisms. Instead, they are part of an organism. Thus, they (like the rest of me) are firmly in the kingdom Animalia.

Please go back to high school biology, you clearly didn't pay attention the first time.

[Dragoria]

No it's not.


No it's not.

In this case, I'm asking the person I've accidentally let into my house (because I left the door open while setting down the groceries and for some reason they thought they were welcome here) to leave. If they do not leave, then I get to call the cops and have them tossed out.

Except here instead of calling the cops, I'm calling the abortion clinic and having this potential person forcibly removed.

No, its more like:
You invite your friend into your house. Your friend brings another friend, so you shoot the other friend since you didn't invite him here and he is trespassing.

No, It's more like: You agree to have sex with X individual. X individual invites Y individual shows up and starts screwing you/using your body against your will. You defend yourself.

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

By being removed from the womb, which is the specific environment that fetuses are known to survive in, it is quite easy to understand that with incredibly rare circumstances, the unborn will die of exposure. What situation justifies such recklessness to the life (or potential to life, should you claim they are not technically alive without being able to survive independently) of a fetus?

No person or potential person has the right to use another person's body without their permission.

3edgey5me

(seriously how is this a difficult concept)

[Madredia]

"All animals are members of the Kingdom Animalia, also called Metazoa. This Kingdom does not contain prokaryotes (Kingdom Monera, includes bacteria, blue-green algae) or protists (Kingdom Protista, includes unicellular eukaryotic organisms). All members of Animalia are multicellular, and all are heterotrophs (that is, they rely directly or indirectly on other organisms for their nourishment). Most ingest food and digest it in an internal cavity." -http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/accounts/Animalia/


However I was wrong about human cells not being Animalia. Thats what I was saying about keratinocytes.

So basically, the cells of my arm are human cells because they're part of a human organism.

Thank you.

The cells on your arm are dead btw. You would not kill them by scratching unless it was deep. But thats besides the point. They are not homo sapiens sapiens, thats the point i was making. A fetus is a homo sapiens sapiens. Your cells don't have a unique genetic makeup different from your own. I like this argument:

A fertilized human embryo has its own unique genetic human signature that is different than that of either of its parents. This shows that it is clearly not additional tissue mass belonging to the mother. The genetic material in each cell of the developing embryo has a unique identity separate from the mother's. Additionally, developing male fetuses have penises, so asserting that they are simply unviable tissue mass belonging to the woman carrying them is problematic, as this would mean that the woman in question has a penis.

[Dakini]

No it's not.


No it's not.

In this case, I'm asking the person I've accidentally let into my house (because I left the door open while setting down the groceries and for some reason they thought they were welcome here) to leave. If they do not leave, then I get to call the cops and have them tossed out.

Except here instead of calling the cops, I'm calling the abortion clinic and having this potential person forcibly removed.

No, its more like:
You invite your friend into your house. Your friend brings another friend, so you shoot the other friend since you didn't invite him here and he is trespassing.

Nope. False equivalence is false. Try again.