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Tarsonis Survivors wrote:

The Holy Catholic Union wrote:Can I get an ''Amen''?!

The Holy Catholic Union wrote:

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:

You were suppose to say ''Amen'' if you agreed with the statement.
That Jesus loves people more than they know.

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:

The Holy Catholic Union wrote:You were suppose to say ''Amen'' if you agreed with the statement.
That Jesus loves people more than they know.

I don't honk either.

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:

Blasveck wrote:
Don't steal, murder, give to charity, help the downtrodden, live a live of abstinence concerning drugs and alcohol, sex within marriage.

And yet no belief in Jesus.

(Sorry to butt in, I know you were asking Lenin.)

Well, I was just wondering as God and Good go hand in hand. Both derive from old English, God derived from the old english god, and good derived from the adjective form of god (with a long o, can't figure out conjugating symbols on chrome). In essence, Culturally and Historically speaking, Goodly means to be Godly, or more pointedly within Western Culture, Christian.

The Holy Catholic Union wrote:

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:

I don't honk either.

Why not brother?

Blasveck wrote:

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:

Well, I was just wondering as God and Good go hand in hand. Both derive from old English, God derived from the old english god, and good derived from the adjective form of god (with a long o, can't figure out conjugating symbols on chrome). In essence, Culturally and Historically speaking, Goodly means to be Godly, or more pointedly within Western Culture, Christian.

Well someone can be "good", disregarding the cultural context of the word, in the sense that they do morally positive acts and yet lack a belief in God, yes?

Does this person still get to go to heaven? Or is entrance entirely based upon belief in Jesus? As if that changes anything?

Bundesdeutschland wrote:

Blasveck wrote:
Well someone can be "good", disregarding the cultural context of the word, in the sense that they do morally positive acts and yet lack a belief in God, yes?

Does this person still get to go to heaven? Or is entrance entirely based upon belief in Jesus? As if that changes anything?

I think it's based upon faith in Jesus as the Messiah.

Bundesdeutschland wrote:

Blasveck wrote:
Well someone can be "good", disregarding the cultural context of the word, in the sense that they do morally positive acts and yet lack a belief in God, yes?

Does this person still get to go to heaven? Or is entrance entirely based upon belief in Jesus? As if that changes anything?

I think it's based upon faith in Jesus as the Messiah.

Blasveck wrote:

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:

Well, I was just wondering as God and Good go hand in hand. Both derive from old English, God derived from the old english god, and good derived from the adjective form of god (with a long o, can't figure out conjugating symbols on chrome). In essence, Culturally and Historically speaking, Goodly means to be Godly, or more pointedly within Western Culture, Christian.

Well someone can be "good", disregarding the cultural context of the word, in the sense that they do morally positive acts and yet lack a belief in God, yes?

Does this person still get to go to heaven? Or is entrance entirely based upon belief in Jesus? As if that changes anything?

Nordengrund wrote:As a Southern Baptist I believe in once you are saved you are always saved. But what if you decide you no longer want to be a Christian or say you reject Christ after getting saved, are you still saved?

Blasveck wrote:

Bundesdeutschland wrote:
I think it's based upon faith in Jesus as the Messiah.

Why would faith be pertinent in respect to one's entrance in heaven?

The Holy Catholic Union wrote:

Blasveck wrote:
Well someone can be "good", disregarding the cultural context of the word, in the sense that they do morally positive acts and yet lack a belief in God, yes?

Does this person still get to go to heaven? Or is entrance entirely based upon belief in Jesus? As if that changes anything?

Believing in Jesus and keeping his commandments is what will save one's self.
Jesus loves all of us so he gave us a chance. To accept him and be moral to be saved from sin.

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:

Blasveck wrote:
Why would faith be pertinent in respect to one's entrance in heaven?

"You're not God, but hey can I still crash in your crib?"

Leningrad Union wrote:

Bundesdeutschland wrote:
I think it's based upon faith in Jesus as the Messiah.

Welp. It looks like I'm going to burn in hell.

But hey, I love warm weather!

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:

Spiritual Universalism wrote:
Understandable, but he said:



He just implies the use of "higher level" priests-believers to "protect from the wolves" and "guide in the right direction". Thus he creates a separation and division already in the community.

So we are not talking about a unity and commonwealth of all believers (in his words "Church"), but the separation between the Shepherds and the rest.

People don't need shepherds, people need to find their own way to the High Truth. No one will tell me what to do and how I will approach the Spiritual. Suggestions yes. But orders or even instructions, no. I believe it's a personal quest.

Jesus and Paul say you're wrong.

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:

The Holy Catholic Union wrote:Why not brother?

1 Corinthians 13:11

The Holy Catholic Union wrote:

Leningrad Union wrote:Welp. It looks like I'm going to burn in hell.

But hey, I love warm weather!

Not if you repent.

Blasveck wrote:

The Holy Catholic Union wrote:Believing in Jesus and keeping his commandments is what will save one's self.
Jesus loves all of us so he gave us a chance. To accept him and be moral to be saved from sin.

So a moral life is not enough? Jesus actually cares whether you believe in him or not?

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:

"You're not God, but hey can I still crash in your crib?"

Assuming that conciousness lives on after death, It'd be reasonable to assume that one's faith in God would change the instant they 'saw' him in the afterlife.

Leningrad Union wrote:

The Holy Catholic Union wrote:Not if you repent.

I want to go to hell. The weather is warm.

Spiritual Universalism wrote:

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Jesus and Paul say you're wrong.

First you just plain ignore my logical request by saying that you don't have time to educate me (when I didn't ask you that).

Then, you are making me "wrong" with one sentence by calling the names of two spiritual humans of their era.

At least could I learn where I am wrong?

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:

Nordengrund wrote:As a Southern Baptist I believe in once you are saved you are always saved. But what if you decide you no longer want to be a Christian or say you reject Christ after getting saved, are you still saved?

What constitutes being saved?

The Holy Catholic Union wrote:

Blasveck wrote:
So a moral life is not enough? Jesus actually cares whether you believe in him or not?




Assuming that conciousness lives on after death, It'd be reasonable to assume that one's faith in God would change the instant they 'saw' him in the afterlife.

We are imperfect, our imperfect deeds cannot save us from sin. We need Jesus in order to be saved from sin.

The Holy Catholic Union wrote:

Blasveck wrote:
So a moral life is not enough? Jesus actually cares whether you believe in him or not?




Assuming that conciousness lives on after death, It'd be reasonable to assume that one's faith in God would change the instant they 'saw' him in the afterlife.

We are imperfect, our imperfect deeds cannot save us from sin. We need Jesus in order to be saved from sin.

Leningrad Union wrote:

I want to go to hell. The weather is warm.