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What is your denomination?

Catholic
300
31%
Eastern Orthodox
101
10%
Non-Chalcedonian (Oriental Orthodox, Church of the East , etc.)
8
1%
Lutheran
65
7%
Baptist
101
10%
Reformed (Calvinism, Presbyterianism, etc.)
48
5%
Anglican/Episcopalian
61
6%
Restorationist (LDS Movement, Jehovah's Witness, etc.)
19
2%
Non-Denominational
148
15%
Other Christian
130
13%
 
Total votes : 981
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:04 pm

Menassa wrote:
Darwinish Brentsylvania wrote:The second coming of Christ?

Or the first coming of The Christ.

:roll: Oh you.
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Postby Menassa » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:08 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Menassa wrote:Or the first coming of The Christ.

:roll: Oh, you.

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Postby Nuverikstan » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:11 pm

Menassa wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote: :roll: Oh, you.

:)

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Postby Vazdania » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:31 pm

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Agritum wrote:So, to veer back the thread to more fitting topics...what doctrine do you follow regarding the so-called End Times? I'm pretty sure that all the Catholics and Orthodoxes here are Preteristic, which is why I'd like to hear the opinions of our Protestant friends.

In regards to the Rapture, I only believe in such an event in the sense of a general final resurrection, when Christ returns a single time. I don't believe people will be "left behind." Christ will not return preliminarily and will only return once. I am also an amillennialist, that is I believe Christ already reigns through his Church and at the end of it, he will return to establish his physical reign.

Rapture is totally Unbibilical (if one is to include the Testament of Jesus)
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Postby Grand Longueville » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:40 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Cill Airne wrote:In regards to the Rapture, I only believe in such an event in the sense of a general final resurrection, when Christ returns a single time. I don't believe people will be "left behind." Christ will not return preliminarily and will only return once. I am also an amillennialist, that is I believe Christ already reigns through his Church and at the end of it, he will return to establish his physical reign.

Rapture is totally Unbibilical (if one is to include the Testament of Jesus)


Quite.
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Postby Benuty » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:47 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Cill Airne wrote:In regards to the Rapture, I only believe in such an event in the sense of a general final resurrection, when Christ returns a single time. I don't believe people will be "left behind." Christ will not return preliminarily and will only return once. I am also an amillennialist, that is I believe Christ already reigns through his Church and at the end of it, he will return to establish his physical reign.

Rapture is totally Unbibilical (if one is to include the Testament of Jesus)

The name is most certainly scripturally foreign while the very basis of the idea (the origin) is not.
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Postby Vazdania » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:51 pm

Benuty wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Rapture is totally Unbibilical (if one is to include the Testament of Jesus)

The name is most certainly scripturally foreign while the very basis of the idea (the origin) is not.

Where do we find the basis of the idea then? :o
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Postby Cill Airne » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:52 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Cill Airne wrote:In regards to the Rapture, I only believe in such an event in the sense of a general final resurrection, when Christ returns a single time. I don't believe people will be "left behind." Christ will not return preliminarily and will only return once. I am also an amillennialist, that is I believe Christ already reigns through his Church and at the end of it, he will return to establish his physical reign.

Rapture is totally Unbibilical (if one is to include the Testament of Jesus)

Did I say the Rapture is Biblical? You say that is if it is contrary to what i've stated, but it is not.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:53 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Benuty wrote:The name is most certainly scripturally foreign while the very basis of the idea (the origin) is not.

Where do we find the basis of the idea then? :o

something about loyal Christians behind spared the tribulations of something.
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Postby Vazdania » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:57 pm

Cill Airne wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Rapture is totally Unbibilical (if one is to include the Testament of Jesus)

Did I say the Rapture is Biblical? You say that is if it is contrary to what i've stated, but it is not.

:) Just stating a point.
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Postby Athartha » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:00 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Cill Airne wrote:Did I say the Rapture is Biblical? You say that is if it is contrary to what i've stated, but it is not.

:) Just stating a point.

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Postby Dangelia » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:11 pm

Agritum wrote:So, to veer back the thread to more fitting topics...what doctrine do you follow regarding the so-called End Times? I'm pretty sure that all the Catholics and Orthodoxes here are Preteristic, which is why I'd like to hear the opinions of our Protestant friends.

I don't think the Orthodox are Preteristic. I know we believe in amillenialism.
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Postby Neoconstantius » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:14 pm

Dangelia wrote:
Agritum wrote:So, to veer back the thread to more fitting topics...what doctrine do you follow regarding the so-called End Times? I'm pretty sure that all the Catholics and Orthodoxes here are Preteristic, which is why I'd like to hear the opinions of our Protestant friends.

I don't think the Orthodox are Preteristic. I know we believe in amillenialism.

That's what I thought too, I'm fairly positive we aren't Preteristic...
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Postby Menassa » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:17 pm

IIRC protestants believe in premillennialism?
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Postby Cill Airne » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:20 pm

Menassa wrote:IIRC protestants believe in premillennialism?

Most Protestants are pre-tribulation Premillennialists. However, some are post-tribulation Premillennialists. Few are Postmillennialists.
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Postby Vazdania » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:22 pm

Menassa wrote:IIRC protestants believe in premillennialism?

The majority.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:23 pm

Cill Airne wrote:
Menassa wrote:IIRC protestants believe in premillennialism?

Most Protestants are pre-tribulation Premillennialists. However, some are post-tribulation Premillennialists. Few are Postmillennialists.


Seriously, fuck protestantism. lol.
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Postby Vazdania » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:23 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Cill Airne wrote:Most Protestants are pre-tribulation Premillennialists. However, some are post-tribulation Premillennialists. Few are Postmillennialists.


Seriously, fuck protestantism. lol.

:geek: In Soviet Russia....
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Postby Dangelia » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:32 pm

Neoconstantius wrote:
Dangelia wrote:I don't think the Orthodox are Preteristic. I know we believe in amillenialism.

That's what I thought too, I'm fairly positive we aren't Preteristic...

No. We're not.
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Postby Menassa » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:33 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Cill Airne wrote:Most Protestants are pre-tribulation Premillennialists. However, some are post-tribulation Premillennialists. Few are Postmillennialists.


Seriously, fuck protestantism. lol.

In the words of a friend of mine:

U wot m8?
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:35 pm

Menassa wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Seriously, fuck protestantism. lol.

In the words of a friend of mine:

U wot m8?



Seriously one of the reason I'm switching to Catholicism, there's too much crap in the Protestantism. So many conflicting view points and isms and it's a nightmare.
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Postby Dangelia » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:35 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Cill Airne wrote:Most Protestants are pre-tribulation Premillennialists. However, some are post-tribulation Premillennialists. Few are Postmillennialists.


Seriously, fuck protestantism. lol.

Thank you! :clap:
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Postby Neoconstantius » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:36 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Menassa wrote:In the words of a friend of mine:

U wot m8?



Seriously one of the reason I'm switching to Catholicism, there's too much crap in the Protestantism. So many conflicting view points and isms and it's a nightmare.

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Postby Menassa » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:36 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Menassa wrote:In the words of a friend of mine:

U wot m8?



Seriously one of the reason I'm switching to Catholicism, there's too much crap in the Protestantism. So many conflicting view points and isms and it's a nightmare.

I'm not going to sit here... lay here... and defend Protestantism to you... but I will wish you luck with Catholicism...
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Their hollow inheritance.
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:36 pm

Dangelia wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Seriously, fuck protestantism. lol.

Thank you! :clap:


Don't take it to much to heart, I was being facetious.
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