Christian Discussion Thread III

[The Norgan Alliance]

I'm in a bit of crisis. I was born and raised a Catholic, everyone I know is Catholic, it would a major stain on my family if I converted…but I feel drawn by the Protestant denominations, particularly the "low churches" (I mean that in an unoffensive way)…It's like for all of my life I've never really felt God's presence, just "played the part", and then I go to one southern church and suddenly I have my faith.

Which denomination of church did you visit?

[Menassa]

You have stated the Catholic Church has never persecuted the Jews, this is a lie.

I find it differently.

If you choose to be against history and the Pope's of Rome in this argument that is your choice.

I can only lead a horse to water my friend.

[Irredento]

I believe I recommended Father Barron's Youtube channel earlier today already but there was one video in particular I wanted to post but couldn't actually find it until now.

This video right here sums up why I converted to Roman Catholicism rather than falling in line with the faith of my protestant family.

The order and absolute answers to disagreements along with a limit to what is tolerated are why I cannot imagine myself outside the Catholic Church or the other elderly patriarchal churches such as that of our brothers in the East or Armenia or even the Copts. I feel like I can claim, in all confidence, that we'll never find ourselves having to put up with "social justice warriors" of that woman's sort in our dear Roman Catholic Church under the wise guidance of the Holy Fathers. Having seen how things can end up without such guidance, I am more thankful for it than ever.

[Menassa]

But then again, there comes the weirdos who say the Catholic Church is the apostate kingdom soon to come...

Which in my opinion is complete and utter inter-Christian anti-Catholic polemic crap.

[...] Synagogue of Satan.[/quote]
I think it's pretty clear who that is, to one user... and to John... but I tend not to generalize as best I can!

[Tarsonis Survivors]

I'm in a bit of crisis. I was born and raised a Catholic, everyone I know is Catholic, it would a major stain on my family if I converted…but I feel drawn by the Protestant denominations, particularly the "low churches" (I mean that in an unoffensive way)…It's like for all of my life I've never really felt God's presence, just "played the part", and then I go to one southern church and suddenly I have my faith.

From some one who currently is southern Baptist, the honeymoon period ends quickly. Once that happens, and you start really listening, it becomes clear their message is a thin facade of the Truth that is God.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

[...] Synagogue of Satan.[/quote
I think it's pretty clear who that is, to one user... and to John... but I tend not to generalize as best I can!

Honestly the more I study I begin to wonder if the Whore of Babylon is Protestantism.

[Menassa]

[...] Synagogue of Satan.[/quote
I think it's pretty clear who that is, to one user... and to John... but I tend not to generalize as best I can!

Honestly the more I study I begin to wonder if the Whore of Babylon is Protestantism.

Ironically the Protestants might think that about the Catholics

But It has been said that there exists in Protestantism many pagan ideals... which could be said about Babylon I suppose.

[Grand Longueville]

I think it's pretty clear who that is, to one user... and to John... but I tend not to generalize as best I can!

Quite clear.

[Neoconstantius]

I believe I recommended Father Barron's Youtube channel earlier today already but there was one video in particular I wanted to post but couldn't actually find it until now.

This video right here sums up why I converted to Roman Catholicism rather than falling in line with the faith of my protestant family.

The order and absolute answers to disagreements along with a limit to what is tolerated are why I cannot imagine myself outside the Catholic Church or the other elderly patriarchal churches such as that of our brothers in the East or Armenia or even the Copts. I feel like I can claim, in all confidence, that we'll never find ourselves having to put up with "social justice warriors" of that woman's sort in our dear Roman Catholic Church under the wise guidance of the Holy Fathers. Having seen how things can end up without such guidance, I am more thankful for it than ever.

That's a very interesting video...

[Menassa]

I think it's pretty clear who that is, to one user... and to John... but I tend not to generalize as best I can!

Quite clear.

I mean, it straight up says who it is...

[Grand Longueville]

Quite clear.

I mean, it straight up says who it is...

Straight up.

[Nuverikstan]

I'm in a bit of crisis. I was born and raised a Catholic, everyone I know is Catholic, it would a major stain on my family if I converted…but I feel drawn by the Protestant denominations, particularly the "low churches" (I mean that in an unoffensive way)…It's like for all of my life I've never really felt God's presence, just "played the part", and then I go to one southern church and suddenly I have my faith.

Join the Baptist church. We are friendly and more than likely we will offer you donuts.

[Vazdania]

Quite clear.

I mean, it straight up says who it is...

Don't get your tzitzit in a bundle

know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan... [Revelation 2]

[Menassa]

I mean, it straight up says who it is...

Straight up.

*scratches head*

I mean, it straight up says who it is...

Don't get your tzitzit in a bundle

know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan... [Revelation 2]

That's the funniest line I've heard in my entire life... not joking.

Seriously, they get in a bundle... and I never went to the boy scouts...

[Vazdania]

I'm in a bit of crisis. I was born and raised a Catholic, everyone I know is Catholic, it would a major stain on my family if I converted…but I feel drawn by the Protestant denominations, particularly the "low churches" (I mean that in an unoffensive way)…It's like for all of my life I've never really felt God's presence, just "played the part", and then I go to one southern church and suddenly I have my faith.

Join the Baptist church. We are friendly and more than likely we will offer you donuts.

and coffee.

[Nuverikstan]

I'm in a bit of crisis. I was born and raised a Catholic, everyone I know is Catholic, it would a major stain on my family if I converted…but I feel drawn by the Protestant denominations, particularly the "low churches" (I mean that in an unoffensive way)…It's like for all of my life I've never really felt God's presence, just "played the part", and then I go to one southern church and suddenly I have my faith.

From some one who currently is southern Baptist, the honeymoon period ends quickly. Once that happens, and you start really listening, it becomes clear their message is a thin facade of the Truth that is God.

Well you have to understand that might not be all Southern Baptist. Like the church I was at before the one I am at now was really a sorry sight, but my new church is really good.

[Athartha]

You have stated the Catholic Church has never persecuted the Jews, this is a lie.

I find it differently..

Unfortunately, it is not different. The Church has, historically, persecuted Jews and Muslims. While the Church today recognizes Jews as the "the first to hear the Word of God," and the similar goals between the Jewish people and the Christian Church (CCC 840: "...expectation of the coming (or the return) of the Messiah.") it has not always seen it in a similar light. But, we'd like to keep that in the past.

[Nuverikstan]

Join the Baptist church. We are friendly and more than likely we will offer you donuts.

and coffee.

And hot chocolate in the winter.

[Menassa]

I find it differently..

Unfortunately, it is not different. The Church has, historically, persecuted Jews and Muslims. While the Church today recognizes Jews as the "the first to hear the Word of God," and the similar goals between the Jewish people and the Christian Church (CCC 840: "...expectation of the coming (or the return) of the Messiah.") it has not always seen it in a similar light. But, we'd like to keep that in the past.

As I said father, I am more than 100% willing to do that, but to completely forget the past would be an issue with me.

Moving forward however and learning from our mistakes is an essential part of spiritual growth!

[Vazdania]

and coffee.

And hot chocolate in the winter.

funny....We're always offered hot apple cider and coffee instead of Hot Chocolate

[Benuty]

No, Luther's reforms are incompatible with the Catholic faith. From a pragmatic view, it would be embarrassing. I'd rather retain what vocations we're getting than bend backwards for converts.

Thank goodness.

Have you actually read the 95 theses and the accords of the Diet of Worms?

I blame the Holy Roman Emperor for Luther's Radicalization.

[Orcoa]

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[Nuverikstan]

And hot chocolate in the winter.

funny....We're always offered hot apple cider and coffee instead of Hot Chocolate

We offer coffee, lemonade, and donuts all year and hot chocolate in the winter. We also have chex mix all year.

[Vazdania]

Thank goodness.

Have you actually read the 95 theses and the accords of the Diet of Worms?

I blame the Holy Roman Emperor for Luther's Radicalization.

No I've not.

[Athartha]

Unfortunately, it is not different. The Church has, historically, persecuted Jews and Muslims. While the Church today recognizes Jews as the "the first to hear the Word of God," and the similar goals between the Jewish people and the Christian Church (CCC 840: "...expectation of the coming (or the return) of the Messiah.") it has not always seen it in a similar light. But, we'd like to keep that in the past.

As I said father, I am more than 100% willing to do that, but to completely forget the past would be an issue with me.

Moving forward however and learning from our mistakes is an essential part of spiritual growth!

Absolutely. To completely forget or ignore the Church's past involvement in Anti-semetism and persecution of the Jewish people would be foolish. But it is also important to remember the Church has moved past that and would like to keep that in the past - it has no place in the Modern Church.

I would like to think of it as that, part of the Church's own spiritual growth.