Christian Discussion Thread III

[Bundesdeutschland]

Hopefully my Graphic Novel version will shed some light on the matter, when it gets here.

Graphic Novel version?

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Hopefully my Graphic Novel version will shed some light on the matter, when it gets here.

Graphic Novel version?

http://www.christianbook.com/the-book-o ... /pd/421400

[Bundesdeutschland]

Graphic Novel version?

http://www.christianbook.com/the-book-o ... /pd/421400

Interesting...

[Menassa]

Yeah I was right, that guy's a major tool bag, and I'd suggest not using that video for Catholics in the future.

Well, I wouldn't use it on Catholics. The video is made from the Orthodox perspective. I have two ways of talking theology. The blunt way in which I talk with other Orthodox, and the less blunt way as in the way I talk with you and Menassa.

"To the weak I became weak, to win the weak."

[Bundesdeutschland]

Well, I wouldn't use it on Catholics. The video is made from the Orthodox perspective. I have two ways of talking theology. The blunt way in which I talk with other Orthodox, and the less blunt way as in the way I talk with you and Menassa.

"Took the weak I became weak, to win the week."

Yay! Rhyme!

[Untaroicht]

I seek advice from my fellow orthodox brothers and sisters.

As many of you may know, on January 25th, we Orthodox Christians mourn the loss of the New Martyrs of the 19th and 20th centuries, under the persecution of the Ottomans, Nazis, Soviets, and Chinese, among others. This is a very important time of year in my life, as I had many of my family members killed off in the religious purges of the 1930's in Soviet-Occupied Ukraine.

To this end, I wish to take the week of the 25th as a period of extreme fasting and self-sacrifice in order to strengthen my soul, seek mercy for my sins, and mourn the fallen. I wish to know from other orthodox christians what I can do during this time period, besides increase my prayers and fasting to the upmost degree.

I would even be willing to undergo self-flagellation to prove my devotion, like the sacrifices of Emperor Theodosius the Great and St. Nephon. My only worry is if I will be allowed to wear something like chains underneath my shirt to school (as unfortunately, I am still a high school student). At the very least I will sleep on a hard marble floor and use a cinderblock or brick as a pillow.

Let us pray on the 25th for those whom perished for their faith, and I eagerly await advice for my period of sacrifice.

[Cill Airne]

I seek advice from my fellow orthodox brothers and sisters.

As many of you may know, on January 25th, we Orthodox Christians mourn the loss of the New Martyrs of the 19th and 20th centuries, under the persecution of the Ottomans, Nazis, Soviets, and Chinese, among others. This is a very important time of year in my life, as I had many of my family members killed off in the religious purges of the 1930's in Soviet-Occupied Ukraine.

To this end, I wish to take the week of the 25th as a period of extreme fasting and self-sacrifice in order to strengthen my soul, seek mercy for my sins, and mourn the fallen. I wish to know from other orthodox christians what I can do during this time period, besides increase my prayers and fasting to the upmost degree.

I would even be willing to undergo flagellation to prove my devotion, like the sacrifices of Emperor Theodosius the Great and St. Nephon. My only worry is if I will be allowed to wear something like chains underneath my shirt to school (as unfortunately, I am still a high school student). At the very least I will sleep on a hard marble floor and use a cinderblock or brick as a pillow.

Let us pray on the 25th for those whom perished for their faith, and I eagerly await advice for my period of sacrifice.

Though I am not Orthodox, I am Anglican and am known for my fasting periods. I was going to suggest sleeping on the floor, it is something I do during my fasting periods - but you, yourself, have suggested it. I do not, however, suggest flagellation unless you are entirely certain of it.

So, I suppose I really do not have anything else to suggest.

[Neo Rome Republic]

I seek advice from my fellow orthodox brothers and sisters.

As many of you may know, on January 25th, we Orthodox Christians mourn the loss of the New Martyrs of the 19th and 20th centuries, under the persecution of the Ottomans, Nazis, Soviets, and Chinese, among others. This is a very important time of year in my life, as I had many of my family members killed off in the religious purges of the 1930's in Soviet-Occupied Ukraine.

To this end, I wish to take the week of the 25th as a period of extreme fasting and self-sacrifice in order to strengthen my soul, seek mercy for my sins, and mourn the fallen. I wish to know from other orthodox christians what I can do during this time period, besides increase my prayers and fasting to the upmost degree.

I would even be willing to undergo self-flagellation to prove my devotion, like the sacrifices of Emperor Theodosius the Great and St. Nephon. My only worry is if I will be allowed to wear something like chains underneath my shirt to school (as unfortunately, I am still a high school student). At the very least I will sleep on a hard marble floor and use a cinderblock or brick as a pillow.

Let us pray on the 25th for those whom perished for their faith, and I eagerly await advice for my period of sacrifice.

Interesting, I did not know that(speaking as a former Orthodox Christian). Thanks for the info.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

I seek advice from my fellow orthodox brothers and sisters.

As many of you may know, on January 25th, we Orthodox Christians mourn the loss of the New Martyrs of the 19th and 20th centuries, under the persecution of the Ottomans, Nazis, Soviets, and Chinese, among others. This is a very important time of year in my life, as I had many of my family members killed off in the religious purges of the 1930's in Soviet-Occupied Ukraine.

To this end, I wish to take the week of the 25th as a period of extreme fasting and self-sacrifice in order to strengthen my soul, seek mercy for my sins, and mourn the fallen. I wish to know from other orthodox christians what I can do during this time period, besides increase my prayers and fasting to the upmost degree.

I would even be willing to undergo self-flagellation to prove my devotion, like the sacrifices of Emperor Theodosius the Great and St. Nephon. My only worry is if I will be allowed to wear something like chains underneath my shirt to school (as unfortunately, I am still a high school student). At the very least I will sleep on a hard marble floor and use a cinderblock or brick as a pillow.

Let us pray on the 25th for those whom perished for their faith, and I eagerly await advice for my period of sacrifice.

I wouldn't recommend flagellation.

[Vazdania]

I seek advice from my fellow orthodox brothers and sisters.

As many of you may know, on January 25th, we Orthodox Christians mourn the loss of the New Martyrs of the 19th and 20th centuries, under the persecution of the Ottomans, Nazis, Soviets, and Chinese, among others. This is a very important time of year in my life, as I had many of my family members killed off in the religious purges of the 1930's in Soviet-Occupied Ukraine.

To this end, I wish to take the week of the 25th as a period of extreme fasting and self-sacrifice in order to strengthen my soul, seek mercy for my sins, and mourn the fallen. I wish to know from other orthodox christians what I can do during this time period, besides increase my prayers and fasting to the upmost degree.

I would even be willing to undergo self-flagellation to prove my devotion, like the sacrifices of Emperor Theodosius the Great and St. Nephon. My only worry is if I will be allowed to wear something like chains underneath my shirt to school (as unfortunately, I am still a high school student). At the very least I will sleep on a hard marble floor and use a cinderblock or brick as a pillow.

Let us pray on the 25th for those whom perished for their faith, and I eagerly await advice for my period of sacrifice.

I wouldn't recommend flagellation.

Harming one's own body is something we should stray away from. >_>

[Bundesdeutschland]

I seek advice from my fellow orthodox brothers and sisters.

As many of you may know, on January 25th, we Orthodox Christians mourn the loss of the New Martyrs of the 19th and 20th centuries, under the persecution of the Ottomans, Nazis, Soviets, and Chinese, among others. This is a very important time of year in my life, as I had many of my family members killed off in the religious purges of the 1930's in Soviet-Occupied Ukraine.

To this end, I wish to take the week of the 25th as a period of extreme fasting and self-sacrifice in order to strengthen my soul, seek mercy for my sins, and mourn the fallen. I wish to know from other orthodox christians what I can do during this time period, besides increase my prayers and fasting to the upmost degree.

I would even be willing to undergo self-flagellation to prove my devotion, like the sacrifices of Emperor Theodosius the Great and St. Nephon. My only worry is if I will be allowed to wear something like chains underneath my shirt to school (as unfortunately, I am still a high school student). At the very least I will sleep on a hard marble floor and use a cinderblock or brick as a pillow.

Let us pray on the 25th for those whom perished for their faith, and I eagerly await advice for my period of sacrifice.

I don't think flogging yourself is such a good idea...

[Neoconstantius]

I seek advice from my fellow orthodox brothers and sisters.

As many of you may know, on January 25th, we Orthodox Christians mourn the loss of the New Martyrs of the 19th and 20th centuries, under the persecution of the Ottomans, Nazis, Soviets, and Chinese, among others. This is a very important time of year in my life, as I had many of my family members killed off in the religious purges of the 1930's in Soviet-Occupied Ukraine.

To this end, I wish to take the week of the 25th as a period of extreme fasting and self-sacrifice in order to strengthen my soul, seek mercy for my sins, and mourn the fallen. I wish to know from other orthodox christians what I can do during this time period, besides increase my prayers and fasting to the upmost degree.

I would even be willing to undergo self-flagellation to prove my devotion, like the sacrifices of Emperor Theodosius the Great and St. Nephon. My only worry is if I will be allowed to wear something like chains underneath my shirt to school (as unfortunately, I am still a high school student). At the very least I will sleep on a hard marble floor and use a cinderblock or brick as a pillow.

Let us pray on the 25th for those whom perished for their faith, and I eagerly await advice for my period of sacrifice.

As an Orthodox Christian I would strongly advise against inflicting bodily harm on yourself...Christ desires us to live a life of prayer, repentance, and fasting, not self-injury.

[The Fraticelli Papacy]

I seek advice from my fellow orthodox brothers and sisters.

As many of you may know, on January 25th, we Orthodox Christians mourn the loss of the New Martyrs of the 19th and 20th centuries, under the persecution of the Ottomans, Nazis, Soviets, and Chinese, among others. This is a very important time of year in my life, as I had many of my family members killed off in the religious purges of the 1930's in Soviet-Occupied Ukraine.

To this end, I wish to take the week of the 25th as a period of extreme fasting and self-sacrifice in order to strengthen my soul, seek mercy for my sins, and mourn the fallen. I wish to know from other orthodox christians what I can do during this time period, besides increase my prayers and fasting to the upmost degree.

I would even be willing to undergo self-flagellation to prove my devotion, like the sacrifices of Emperor Theodosius the Great and St. Nephon. My only worry is if I will be allowed to wear something like chains underneath my shirt to school (as unfortunately, I am still a high school student). At the very least I will sleep on a hard marble floor and use a cinderblock or brick as a pillow.

Let us pray on the 25th for those whom perished for their faith, and I eagerly await advice for my period of sacrifice.

My goodness, I spy a future in the pulpit.

[The Fraticelli Papacy]

I must ask a question to all Catholics: Can Martin Luther's ideas for reform be fully implemented in the Catholic Church today? Would this cause protestants to convert?

[Vazdania]

I must ask a question to all Catholics: Can Martin Luther's ideas for reform be fully implemented in the Catholic Church today? Would this cause protestants to convert?

it may cause some to convert, but I seriously doubt you'd get Baptists, other congregationalists, and Restorationists to convert.

[The Norgan Alliance]

I must ask a question to all Catholics: Can Martin Luther's ideas for reform be fully implemented in the Catholic Church today? Would this cause protestants to convert?

If the Catholic Church became the (Missouri Synod) Lutheran Church in everything but name I would at least give some thought to conversion. I would support a merging though as the two Churches would be so similar.

This is coming from a Lutheran.

[Athartha]

I must ask a question to all Catholics: Can Martin Luther's ideas for reform be fully implemented in the Catholic Church today? Would this cause protestants to convert?

No, Luther's reforms cannot be fully implemented within the Church today. While it may cause some protestants to convert, it would not cause many - especially many in America who do not recognise Catholics as Christians.
- The Rev. Michael Byrne

EDIT: I'm a bit tired, and just realized I signed my name as though I was answering a formal question. Apologies!

[Cill Airne]

I must ask a question to all Catholics: Can Martin Luther's ideas for reform be fully implemented in the Catholic Church today? Would this cause protestants to convert?

It'd make me, as an Anglican, less likely to convert to the Catholic Church.

[Grand Longueville]

I must ask a question to all Catholics: Can Martin Luther's ideas for reform be fully implemented in the Catholic Church today? Would this cause protestants to convert?

No, Luther's reforms are incompatible with the Catholic faith. From a pragmatic view, it would be embarrassing. I'd rather retain what vocations we're getting than bend backwards for converts.

[Virenna]

I'm in a bit of crisis. I was born and raised a Catholic, everyone I know is Catholic, it would a major stain on my family if I converted…but I feel drawn by the Protestant denominations, particularly the "low churches" (I mean that in an unoffensive way)…It's like for all of my life I've never really felt God's presence, just "played the part", and then I go to one southern church and suddenly I have my faith.

[Menassa]

"Took the weak I became weak, to win the week."

Yay! Rhyme!

Corinthians actually.

[Vazdania]

I must ask a question to all Catholics: Can Martin Luther's ideas for reform be fully implemented in the Catholic Church today? Would this cause protestants to convert?

No, Luther's reforms are incompatible with the Catholic faith. From a pragmatic view, it would be embarrassing. I'd rather retain what vocations we're getting than bend backwards for converts.

Thank goodness.

[Grand Longueville]

I'm in a bit of crisis. I was born and raised a Catholic, everyone I know is Catholic, it would a major stain on my family if I converted…but I feel drawn by the Protestant denominations, particularly the "low churches" (I mean that in an unoffensive way)…It's like for all of my life I've never really felt God's presence, just "played the part", and then I go to one southern church and suddenly I have my faith.

Don't pray for your own happiness, pray for the greater glory of God. Take heart! The Catholic Church was founded by God, and as a result of His inspiration, it lives still.

Increase your zeal in the true faith. If I can be of any assistance, please get in touch with me.

[Menassa]

Shut up with that. I'm only conveying what you have said. If you do not believe it, then do not bear false witness against yourself.

You are conveying a false assumption, nothing more.

You have stated the Catholic Church has never persecuted the Jews, this is a lie.

I have believed you to be wondering if that makes you an anti-semite... it does not.

Pope John Paul II was a member of the catholic church and in favor of Jewish-Catholic relations... he is not an antisemite.

[Grand Longueville]

You have stated the Catholic Church has never persecuted the Jews, this is a lie.

I find it differently.

I have believed you to be wondering if that makes you an anti-semite... it does not.

Thank you for affirming what I already believed.

Pope John Paul II was a member of the catholic church and in favor of Jewish-Catholic relations... he is not an antisemite.

Wonderful.