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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:37 pm

Does anybody else enjoy this diverse American art form? If so, what kind of jazz? What artists?

Personally I like the 50's and 60's modal jazz and late/post bop era the best. Freddie Hubbard is excellent, Coltrane and Eric Dolphy are great, I also like Bill Evans and Herbie Hancock from this era. Of course there are a lot of other players I listen to.
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Postby Heaven Hieghts » Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:40 pm

YES! I love all sorts of jazz! I'd like to learn to play some on my flute and perhaps on sax when I learn it.
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:41 pm

Also, I'm trying to get more into the modern jazz scene. I don't possess a great deal of recordings and knowledge about more modern jazz, so I'm willing to take recommendations if someone here does.
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Postby Hydesland » Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:43 pm

I like pretty much all forms of jazz, some forms that stray away from the original beautiful and/or swinging bebop model melodies (i.e. some forms of free jazz and third stream) don't do much for me, but I appreciate them.

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Postby Hydesland » Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:44 pm

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:Also, I'm trying to get more into the modern jazz scene. I don't possess a great deal of recordings and knowledge about more modern jazz, so I'm willing to take recommendations if someone here does.


Depends how modern you mean when you say modern.

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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:55 pm

Hydesland wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:Also, I'm trying to get more into the modern jazz scene. I don't possess a great deal of recordings and knowledge about more modern jazz, so I'm willing to take recommendations if someone here does.


Depends how modern you mean when you say modern.


Pretty much most of the 80's to today. I don't really have much fusion, and most of the jazz that I have that was recorded recently still has a less "modern" feel to it. (Stuff like Tom Harrell and the like.) One of the few jazz artists whom some might consider modern that I have recordings of is Chick Corea.
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Postby Dragontide » Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:20 pm

I don't know jack about jazz (never been a good radio station in the Tennessee Valley) but I like all I have heard. Same with blues music. All good stuff but who the hell are all these bands?
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Postby Vojvodina-Nihon » Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:27 pm

I like what jazz I've heard, although it's rather limited at present. Being a fan of twentieth-century experimental and non-minimalist music, I suspect I'd like modern jazz that absorbs those influences, but I don't know of any good artists right now. Likewise, will take recommendations.

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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:30 pm

I like what jazz I've heard, although it's rather limited at present. Being a fan of twentieth-century experimental and non-minimalist music, I suspect I'd like modern jazz that absorbs those influences, but I don't know of any good artists right now. Likewise, will take recommendations.

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Right now I'm listening to Inrid Jensen. She is one of the few modern jazz artists I have in my collection. My favorite stuff is the collaborations between Freddie Hubbard and Herbie Hancock. You should check out "Empyrean Isles" and "Maiden Voyage." They're not experimental, but they are great examples that essentially define the post bop era, and you should have them regardless of your likes and dislikes. If you want some more avant-garde stuff, I think that Coltrane's "A Love Supreme" fits the bill, and it's also still very tasteful, which doesn't always hold for more "experimental" stuff, though it's not the most avant-garde I've ever heard. If you want fucked up beyond belief, check out the auditory acid trip known as "Bitches Brew" by Miles Davis. If you want to hear good Miles, check out "Miles Smiles" (somewhat post/late boppish), "Kind of Blue" (an experiment in modal jazz), "Something Else" (the main album artist is Cannonball Aderly), and the first Miles Davis quintet (the one with Coltrane and Red Garland). There is a "Definitive Collection" on the internet that has a four CD set of a lot of the early Miles quintet stuff, along with a booklet.

That should be good for now.
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Postby Ravea » Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:21 pm

Thelonious S. Monk, Miles Davis, Dizzy Gillespie, John Coltrane, John McLaughlin, Ella Fitzgerald, Count Basie, Benny Carter, Duke Ellington, Dave Brubeck, Gil Evans, Bill Evans, Ornette Coleman, Charles Mingus, Bud Powell, Herbie Hancock, Max Roach, Charlie Parker, Ron Carter, Stanley Clarke, Dave Holland, Marcus Miller, Jaco Pastorius, Victor Wooten, Louis Armstrong, Yusef Lateef, Ravi Shankar...

The list goes on and on. I'm a Jazz piano player, so it's basically all I listen to.

Anyways. Ever listen to Jazz tribute to Jack Johnson? It's a 70's thing, hard rock jazz fusion album with Miles, Herbie, and John McLaughlin
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:25 pm

Ravea wrote:Thelonious S. Monk, Miles Davis, Dizzy Gillespie, John Coltrane, John McLaughlin, Ella Fitzgerald, Count Basie, Benny Carter, Duke Ellington, Dave Brubeck, Gil Evans, Bill Evans, Ornette Coleman, Charles Mingus, Bud Powell, Herbie Hancock, Max Roach, Charlie Parker, Ron Carter, Stanley Clarke, Dave Holland, Marcus Miller, Jaco Pastorius, Victor Wooten, Louis Armstrong, Yusef Lateef, Ravi Shankar...

The list goes on and on. I'm a Jazz piano player, so it's basically all I listen to.

Anyways. Ever listen to Jazz tribute to Jack Johnson? It's a 70's thing, hard rock jazz fusion album with Miles, Herbie, and John McLaughlin


I've heard of the album, but it's one of the few well known Miles albums that I don't have, that and "In a Silent Way."
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Postby Vojvodina-Nihon » Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:31 pm

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
I like what jazz I've heard, although it's rather limited at present. Being a fan of twentieth-century experimental and non-minimalist music, I suspect I'd like modern jazz that absorbs those influences, but I don't know of any good artists right now. Likewise, will take recommendations.

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Right now I'm listening to Inrid Jensen. She is one of the few modern jazz artists I have in my collection. My favorite stuff is the collaborations between Freddie Hubbard and Herbie Hancock. You should check out "Empyrean Isles" and "Maiden Voyage." They're not experimental, but they are great examples that essentially define the post bop era, and you should have them regardless of your likes and dislikes. If you want some more avant-garde stuff, I think that Coltrane's "A Love Supreme" fits the bill, and it's also still very tasteful, which doesn't always hold for more "experimental" stuff, though it's not the most avant-garde I've ever heard. If you want fucked up beyond belief, check out the auditory acid trip known as "Bitches Brew" by Miles Davis. If you want to hear good Miles, check out "Miles Smiles" (somewhat post/late boppish), "Kind of Blue" (an experiment in modal jazz), "Something Else" (the main album artist is Cannonball Aderly), and the first Miles Davis quintet (the one with Coltrane and Red Garland). There is a "Definitive Collection" on the internet that has a four CD set of a lot of the early Miles quintet stuff, along with a booklet.

That should be good for now.

I already own about five Miles Davis albums, and one Herbie Hancock album (although I don't know if it includes any of the collaborations -- don't remember exactly what's on the CD). I do listen to them more or less whenever I feel like listening to jazz. Also Thelonious Monk, Charlie Parker, Bud Powell, Charles Mingus, John Coltrane.... probably a few others buried somewhere in my CD collection. Never heard of Jensen before, might check her out.
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:33 pm

Vojvodina-Nihon wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
I like what jazz I've heard, although it's rather limited at present. Being a fan of twentieth-century experimental and non-minimalist music, I suspect I'd like modern jazz that absorbs those influences, but I don't know of any good artists right now. Likewise, will take recommendations.

*tags thread*


Right now I'm listening to Inrid Jensen. She is one of the few modern jazz artists I have in my collection. My favorite stuff is the collaborations between Freddie Hubbard and Herbie Hancock. You should check out "Empyrean Isles" and "Maiden Voyage." They're not experimental, but they are great examples that essentially define the post bop era, and you should have them regardless of your likes and dislikes. If you want some more avant-garde stuff, I think that Coltrane's "A Love Supreme" fits the bill, and it's also still very tasteful, which doesn't always hold for more "experimental" stuff, though it's not the most avant-garde I've ever heard. If you want fucked up beyond belief, check out the auditory acid trip known as "Bitches Brew" by Miles Davis. If you want to hear good Miles, check out "Miles Smiles" (somewhat post/late boppish), "Kind of Blue" (an experiment in modal jazz), "Something Else" (the main album artist is Cannonball Aderly), and the first Miles Davis quintet (the one with Coltrane and Red Garland). There is a "Definitive Collection" on the internet that has a four CD set of a lot of the early Miles quintet stuff, along with a booklet.

That should be good for now.

I already own about five Miles Davis albums, and one Herbie Hancock album (although I don't know if it includes any of the collaborations -- don't remember exactly what's on the CD). I do listen to them more or less whenever I feel like listening to jazz. Also Thelonious Monk, Charlie Parker, Bud Powell, Charles Mingus, John Coltrane.... probably a few others buried somewhere in my CD collection. Never heard of Jensen before, might check her out.


She's a trumpet player. Her style is somewhat "modern," but she still has some part of the jazz roots in there. I have her album "At Sea." She is considered one of the most important jazz artists in the modern day.
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Postby Ravea » Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:52 pm

I'm actually pretty good friends with Monk's grandson, Thelonious Monk VI. And I've played with John McLaughlin and met Herbie Hancock.
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Postby Red Guard Revisionists » Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:57 pm

i really don't care for jazz, its probably my least favorite genre of music. it sounds like self absorbed musical masturbation to me, both formless and pointless.

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Postby Ravea » Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:00 pm

Red Guard Revisionists wrote:i really don't care for jazz, its probably my least favorite genre of music. it sounds like self absorbed musical masturbation to me, both formless and pointless.


Uh. Wow.

Have you ever actually listened to Jazz? You'd find that much of it is very strictly tied to both form and point with alot of self expression if you did.
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Postby Vojvodina-Nihon » Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:06 pm

Red Guard Revisionists wrote:i really don't care for jazz, its probably my least favorite genre of music. it sounds like self absorbed musical masturbation to me, both formless and pointless.

Lol.

Actually, my main issue with jazz is that so much of it is in 4/4 time, and dominated by old formulas like I-I-IV-I-V-IV-I-V. The artists I listen to most often, however, are those who use more adventurous harmony and increased rhythmic complexity, as started to become popular in the 50s.
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Postby Red Guard Revisionists » Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:08 pm

Ravea wrote:
Red Guard Revisionists wrote:i really don't care for jazz, its probably my least favorite genre of music. it sounds like self absorbed musical masturbation to me, both formless and pointless.


Uh. Wow.

Have you ever actually listened to Jazz? You'd find that much of it is very strictly tied to both form and point with alot of self expression if you did.


i've heard all i care to... i'll listen to npr all day when i'm driving in my car, news, blues, classical, this american life ect... but if i have the radio on after 9pm when the endless night time jazz show comes on i can't change it fast enough. it sets my teeth on edge, the pointless riffing, the endless diddling about without beginning or end. i have to admit i really am lyric driven so jazz doesn't have much of a chance, but i can tolerate classical music and its pretty wordless.

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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:09 pm

I'm kinda spoiled - my first real intro to Jazz was when my little bro invited me to the Woodlands Jazz Festival at the last minute and I went along because I had nothing bettere to do. Miles was the headliner. I've been hooked ever since.
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Postby Maurepas » Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:09 pm

I really like Jazz, although I dont actually own enough, (I am looking at rectifying this in the future though) I do own some Seatbelts from Cowboy Bebop, which incorporates alot of Jazz and Blues...

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Vojvodina-Nihon wrote:
Red Guard Revisionists wrote:i really don't care for jazz, its probably my least favorite genre of music. it sounds like self absorbed musical masturbation to me, both formless and pointless.

Lol.

Actually, my main issue with jazz is that so much of it is in 4/4 time, and dominated by old formulas like I-I-IV-I-V-IV-I-V. The artists I listen to most often, however, are those who use more adventurous harmony and increased rhythmic complexity, as started to become popular in the 50s.


One of the first albums wherein metric experimentation was tried is "Time Out" by Dav Brubeck. It features the famous tune, "Take Five." A lot of the more modern jazz has begun to experiment with more odd time signatures.
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Postby Largent » Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:13 pm

As a guitar player I listen to the following:

Martin Taylor, Django Reinhardt, Joe Pass, Al DiMeola, Paco DeLucia, Bela Fleck, John McLaughlin, John Jorgenson, John Coltrane, Mike Stern, Oscar Peterson, Pat Metheny, Robben Ford, Tommy Emmanuel, Wes Montgomery, Victor Wooten, Weather Report, Frank Gambale, George Benson, Herbie Hancock, and Dave Brubeck. At least those are some of them.

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:58 am

Ravea wrote:Thelonious S. Monk, Miles Davis, Dizzy Gillespie, John Coltrane, John McLaughlin, Ella Fitzgerald, Count Basie, Benny Carter, Duke Ellington, Dave Brubeck, Gil Evans, Bill Evans, Ornette Coleman, Charles Mingus, Bud Powell, Herbie Hancock, Max Roach, Charlie Parker, Ron Carter, Stanley Clarke, Dave Holland, Marcus Miller, Jaco Pastorius, Victor Wooten, Louis Armstrong, Yusef Lateef, Ravi Shankar...

The list goes on and on. I'm a Jazz piano player, so it's basically all I listen to.

Anyways. Ever listen to Jazz tribute to Jack Johnson? It's a 70's thing, hard rock jazz fusion album with Miles, Herbie, and John McLaughlin

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Haven't heard much Jazz, disliked most of what I have heard.
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