Non-binary genders

[Neutraligon]

Swyer Syndrome? Or de la Chapelle Syndrome?

(And that's just when things obviously go wrong.)

Oh, I apologize, I was wrong it seems. I hadn't read about those (although I had read about Triple X, Klinefelter, and XXY syndrome before). That's incredibly interesting.

I would say that their sex is determined by what's in their pants.

So what about those with both, or neither?

[Caninope]

Oh, I apologize, I was wrong it seems. I hadn't read about those (although I had read about Triple X, Klinefelter, and XXY syndrome before). That's incredibly interesting.

I would say that their sex is determined by what's in their pants.

So what about those with both, or neither?

Then they are intersex. That was easy.

[Caninope]

In the biological sense, anyone who lacks a Y chromosome will develop into a female and anyone who has a Y chromosome will develop into a male.

That's sex though, and not gender. I don't know how I feel about gender, considering I've had several good friends of mine say that they no longer accept the gender binary because of their own gender associations (one came out as genderqueer and one came out as agender).

To the first part, not true. There are those who have the XY chromosomes who develop into females
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_gonadal_dysgenesis

Already acknowledged.

[Umbra Ac Silentium]

XX males and XY females. What say you?

In the biological sense, anyone who lacks a Y chromosome will develop into a female and anyone who has a Y chromosome will develop into a male.

Then there's sry trans-location where some of the genes on the Y chromosome get relocated to the X chromosome and an XX individual will develop in a much more masculine direction.

[Caninope]

In the biological sense, anyone who lacks a Y chromosome will develop into a female and anyone who has a Y chromosome will develop into a male.

Then there's sry trans-location where some of the genes on the Y chromosome get relocated to the X chromosome and an XX individual will develop in a much more masculine direction.

Already acknowledged two or three times now.

[Dyakovo]

Then there's sry trans-location where some of the genes on the Y chromosome get relocated to the X chromosome and an XX individual will develop in a much more masculine direction.

Already acknowledged two or three times now.

We're going for 6.

[Aahmerica]

We talking gender
Or
Sex?
There's a difference.

[Tsuntion]

We talking gender
Or
Sex?
There's a difference.

Gender, as is clear from the thread title and OP. However, intersex stuff has come up.

[Dyakovo]

We talking gender
Or
Sex?
There's a difference.

Buried under the gay rights and abortion threads, it's a gender related thread. A non-binary gender thread, oooh.

Anyways, do you acknowledge non-binary genders?

For those of you who don't know, non-binary genders are all the genders besides male and female. This includes, but is not limited to, agender, pangender, androgynous, bigender, and trigender (My apologies if I forgot anything).

I acknowledge non-binary genders. Even if they're a small percentage, there are more genders than male and female. After all, it isn't hurting anyone to have more than male and female

Buried under the gay rights and abortion threads, it's a gender related thread. A non-binary gender thread, oooh.

it's a gender related thread.

gender

I don't know... What do you think?

[Aahmerica]

We talking gender
Or
Sex?
There's a difference.

[quo

it's a gender related thread.

gender

I don't know... What do you think?

Well your an ass. Also, not everyone knows the difference most believe them to be the same thing...so excuse me.

[Rocopurr]

[quo


I don't know... What do you think?

Well your an ass. Also, not everyone knows the difference most believe them to be the same thing...so excuse me.

Well that was uncalled for.

And yes, this is about gender not sex. There is a difference.

[Zweite Alaje]

We talking gender
Or
Sex?
There's a difference.

Buried under the gay rights and abortion threads, it's a gender related thread. A non-binary gender thread, oooh.

Anyways, do you acknowledge non-binary genders?

For those of you who don't know, non-binary genders are all the genders besides male and female. This includes, but is not limited to, agender, pangender, androgynous, bigender, and trigender (My apologies if I forgot anything).

I acknowledge non-binary genders. Even if they're a small percentage, there are more genders than male and female. After all, it isn't hurting anyone to have more than male and female

Buried under the gay rights and abortion threads, it's a gender related thread. A non-binary gender thread, oooh.

it's a gender related thread.

gender

I don't know... What do you think?

If they don't get it by now, don't waste your time explaining Dya.

[Katganistan]

[quo


I don't know... What do you think?

Well your an ass. Also, not everyone knows the difference most believe them to be the same thing...so excuse me.

Not excused. There's no reason to call someone else a name. Knock it off.

[Meryuma]

I tolerate to be assumed as cisgender, but I'm more of a mixture of cisgender, agender and bigender.

I'm mostly myself rather than *group whatever*, then male and very, very comfortable with my manlihood, but I can't deny I have girly elements inside me I like and am proud of.

EDIT: I also allow people to assume because I'm not quite sure if what I am saying makes sense or is right, or if I'm just stating a normal part of male cisgenderness that just isn't acknowledged in our culture. '-'

Having a feminine side doesn't make you bigender.

[Ashlak]

It's amazing how many people don't know (or refuse to acknowledge) the very simple difference between sex and gender.

I myself am transgender, but I'm having trouble deciding whether I'm MtF or something non-binary.

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

I tolerate to be assumed as cisgender, but I'm more of a mixture of cisgender, agender and bigender.

I'm mostly myself rather than *group whatever*, then male and very, very comfortable with my manlihood, but I can't deny I have girly elements inside me I like and am proud of.

EDIT: I also allow people to assume because I'm not quite sure if what I am saying makes sense or is right, or if I'm just stating a normal part of male cisgenderness that just isn't acknowledged in our culture. '-'

Having a feminine side doesn't make you bigender.

Quite what I thought.

Anyway, someone here knows how much distance from mainstream manlihood it starts to separate from cisgenderness?

I am comfortable with being male, but I just don't identify with being man, and never identified with becoming a man. I always thought myself as quite adequate to fall within "boy" because boy has connotations just of young biological male instead of person following certain roles, including those of gender (I mean, boys can make most things that girls can, despite often being frowned upon but this doesn't make people question their boyness), but now I just feel like my situation with my gender is quite non-mainstream.

I am clearly an adult and male-looking, and don't intend to change my body in the direction of being more woman-like, but... I actually don't feel even comfortable about being so male-looking as I am. I feel like my cisgenderness is at least quite close to genderqueerness in the regard of what I do want to look like and how I feel about myself and what I truly am.

This confusion is normal, or am I overreacting over an experience that completely falls within the borders of cisgenderness, or worse, am I saying bollocks because I just don't understand what being non-binary means?

[Faolinn]

I think many things about this. Do I believe in some sort of third sex? Yes. Especially with a number of cultures that recognize many variants. Do I believe in androgynous people as far as their mentality and soul? Yes. Do I believe in all of these labels? No. Some of them just sound like other identities with a different name and it's hard to tell them apart some times. Maybe there is something I'm missing here. I do not know. I feel many ways about it. On one hand some things make perfect sense to me while others seem incongruous with reality. I am still trying to make up my mind on many things. Though I suppose it is good to be a student rather than one content to just see the world as a shallow thing and to ask no questions.

[Shamhnan Insir]

People can be, feel and choose whatever they like with themselves, but I don't think labelling them does any good. I'm happy being who I am and would feel marginalised if who I was, was given a label and classified in some catagory.

[Shamhnan Insir]

People can be, feel and choose whatever they like with themselves, but I don't think labelling them does any good. I'm happy being who I am and would feel marginalised if who I was, was given a label and classified in some catagory.

[The Steel Magnolia]

People can be, feel and choose whatever they like with themselves, but I don't think labelling them does any good. I'm happy being who I am and would feel marginalised if who I was, was given a label and classified in some catagory.

Yo hun, I'm happy for you, but uh: most people aren't quite the same.

[New Albrionn]

Personally, I am of the opinion that there will be at least four genders in the future, based on combinations of sex and demeanor. So yes, not only do I recognise non-binary genders, I am already coming up with a way to classify them. It might be doomed to failure though, since masculinity/femininity is probably more of a continuum than a sharp divide.

On a related note, I get the sense that mainstream society has become hostile to anything remotely "feminine", and everyone is now expected to act ultra-masculine, male and female alike. Thoughts?

[Tyriece]

Kinda always just looked at everyone either male or female.

[Susurruses]

Kinda always just looked at everyone either male or female.

... so have you just figured trans* & genderqueer folk don't exist, or.. what?
Or to phrase it another way: Why?

[Tyriece]

Kinda always just looked at everyone either male or female.

... so have you just figured trans* & genderqueer folk don't exist, or.. what?
Or to phrase it another way: Why?

You are talking to a bi sexual male here, i dont care what other people are. As for why, i dont know just dose not matter to me. For instance i knew a friend that wanted to be and be called a girl when he was born a guy, out of respect i called her a girl but in my mind thought him a boy.

[The Steel Magnolia]

... so have you just figured trans* & genderqueer folk don't exist, or.. what?
Or to phrase it another way: Why?

You are talking to a bi sexual male here, i dont care what other people are. As for why, i dont know just dose not matter to me. For instance i knew a friend that wanted to be and be called a girl when he was born a guy, out of respect i called her a girl but in my mind thought him a boy.

Not very respectful if you think of her as a boy. Often unintentional, but regardless.