2014 NFL Thread Week 7 (At least your team isn't the Jags)

[Qazox]

2nd time this season. The 1st was the BS one vs. the Jets

Both were perfectly correct calls.

I hope calls happen to the Colts Sunday in Arizona.

[Saugeais]

I'm now one of the many advocates that say Cutler should be franchise tagged, and the Bears should both re-sign McCown for another year while drafting a QB to develop. As far as said QB to draft, Aaron Murray seems to be the best fit if the Bears can nab him in the 2nd-3rd round. Durable, good arm and head on his shoulders, but will definitely be overlook with Teddy Bridgewater, Marcus Mariota, AJ McCarron, and Johnny Manziel coming out as well.

[The Confederacy of Styx]

I'm now one of the many advocates that say Cutler should be franchise tagged, and the Bears should both re-sign McCown for another year while drafting a QB to develop. As far as said QB to draft, Aaron Murray seems to be the best fit if the Bears can nab him in the 2nd-3rd round. Durable, good arm and head on his shoulders, but will definitely be overlook with Teddy Bridgewater, Marcus Mariota, AJ McCarron, and Johnny Manziel coming out as well.

One of those better fall to Pittsburgh. I love Big Ben as much as the next guy, but he needs an apprentice ASAP.

[Kentsland]

Okay, I'll weigh in on the Pats Call last night in my opinion. To note, I am a Jets fan and hate the Pats.

The call is a judgement call, and is up to the Back Judge or any adjacent official to decide whether or not it's a penalty. If you don't throw the flag, then okay. That's the officials opinion, and should not be called. If the official throws the flag, you call it. No in between. The fact that the Official threw the flag in the first place-there should be a holding penalty against CAR. If they didn't throw the flag, that would be okay.

And to all you guys saying that the Pats fans keep getting jipped of calls, quit being damn butthurt. Every team has gotten close and bad calls in their favor and not. It just so happens to be that historically the Patriots have gotten calls in their favor (Tuck Rule, most popular, but also recently in New Orleans) and they happened to get two controversial calls against them this year (CAR & NYJ).

I shall also state this; Elite Teams don't leave the game to the officials or one call/play. They win on their own and battle through adversity.

[Bralia]

In case you guys are wondering, the ball was thrown underneath. There was no way that the intended receiver could get to the ball even if he wasn't being hugged by the defensive player. The ball was fully uncatchable. Good call on the refs.

Anyway, WOOT! GO ANTI-PATRIOTS! Come back when you don't have a stick shoved up your ass, Aqib Talib!

Oh, cool, a gif is already available. Seriously guys, how could you possibly say Gronkowski could have gotten to where the ball was going from his position on the field?:

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Seriously guys, how could you possibly say Gronkowski could have gotten to where the ball was going from his position on the field? Go find different angles if that's not convincing enough for you. Gronk's own momentum was carrying him away from the ball. He tried to slow down. Let's say the defensive player wasn't hugging him. Do you guys really think Gronk could accelerate fast enough to come back and grab the ball? Without the hug, the d-player would have still been in his way. Gronk may be a miracle worker but he can't perform the impossible.

Maybe, just maybe if he wasn't being hugged and manhandled during the part of his route where he comes back to where the ball wound up, then he could have caught it.

I'm not even mad about the no-call. It's the fact that they threw a flag for either PI or (more likely) holding, then decided not to call it. Final play of the game, you either keep your hand in your pocket or you call the foul, not be a wishy-washy pussy.

Alright, then let's forget about the play being made and focus on that little bit of yellow. You do know the refs are allowed to correct mistakes they make on the field, right? The ref who threw the flag was probably focusing too much on the action between the two players and less on the trajectory of the ball. I don't blame him, the hug stands out. . But then the referees joined up to take stock of the entire play and rectified the mistake. I don't see what's so "wishy-washy" about that. Even in the worst situations for my own preferred teams, I can objectively say that I want the refs to get their calls right.

The call is a judgement call, and is up to the Back Judge or any adjacent official to decide whether or not it's a penalty. If you don't throw the flag, then okay. That's the officials opinion, and should not be called. If the official throws the flag, you call it. No in between. The fact that the Official threw the flag in the first place-there should be a holding penalty against CAR. If they didn't throw the flag, that would be okay.

See above.

[Gaveo]

I'm now one of the many advocates that say Cutler should be franchise tagged, and the Bears should both re-sign McCown for another year while drafting a QB to develop. As far as said QB to draft, Aaron Murray seems to be the best fit if the Bears can nab him in the 2nd-3rd round. Durable, good arm and head on his shoulders, but will definitely be overlook with Teddy Bridgewater, Marcus Mariota, AJ McCarron, and Johnny Manziel coming out as well.

Not Aaron Murray he is too inconsistent.

Did you see him in the First Half of the Auburn-Georgia game last week? Shesh.

Although then again, some players are better in the NFL than they were in college.

[Starkiller101]

The panthers are really doing good this season.

[Serrland]

For those of you who are fans of both American Football and Association Football, this is a pretty neat crossover - NFL team logos redesigned to be crests.

http://www.footballasfootball.com/

[Qazox]

For those of you who are fans of both American Football and Association Football, this is a pretty neat crossover - NFL team logos redesigned to be crests.

http://www.footballasfootball.com/

Would be better once it's complete. Not bad though.

[Osarius]

For those of you who are fans of both American Football and Association Football, this is a pretty neat crossover - NFL team logos redesigned to be crests.

http://www.footballasfootball.com/

Saw these earlier... Mixed bag. Some are really well done, others don't really look like footy crests to me.
Cool idea though. Pretty sure I saw the reverse somewhere else and thought the same thing.

[Serrland]

For those of you who are fans of both American Football and Association Football, this is a pretty neat crossover - NFL team logos redesigned to be crests.

http://www.footballasfootball.com/

Saw these earlier... Mixed bag. Some are really well done, others don't really look like footy crests to me.
Cool idea though. Pretty sure I saw the reverse somewhere else and thought the same thing.

The reverse would be interesting, especially to see what they do to clubs without mascots attached to them. Although maybe most if not all of the top clubs have mascots by now?

I get what you're saying with the first bit. Some do look a bit out there. Then again, this is a real soccer crest, so who knows...*

*actually, I think that's pretty wicked. Hereford cattle and all, I get it. Beats a shrimp or something like that for sure.

[Qazox]

Sports Science agree with me and Tom Brady: That was a bullshit no-call!

http://m.espn.go.com/general/video?vid=10004720&src=desktop

[Christmahanikwanzikah]

Sports Science agree with me and Tom Brady: That was a bullshit no-call!

http://m.espn.go.com/general/video?vid=10004720&src=desktop

He takes two whole chop steps to stop, and then he's supposed to be able to launch back towards the ball? Really?

Nope.

[Qazox]

Sports Science agree with me and Tom Brady: That was a bullshit no-call!

http://m.espn.go.com/general/video?vid=10004720&src=desktop

He takes two whole chop steps to stop, and then he's supposed to be able to launch back towards the ball? Really?

Nope.

If he didn't have 235 lbs draped over him, he had a chance. But basically it proved that at worst defensive holding should have been called.

[Christmahanikwanzikah]

He takes two whole chop steps to stop, and then he's supposed to be able to launch back towards the ball? Really?

Nope.

If he didn't have 235 lbs draped over him, he had a chance. But basically it proved that at worst defensive holding should have been called.

Except no. I still disagree with them that "even without the additional mass, Gronk would've had a play on the ball."

You can see him make one and a half chop steps before the brunt of the contact begins. ESPN also calling "hand on shoulder" the initiation of contact and, therefore, the initiation of added mass is entirely inaccurate, too, and even by that definition, "contact" happens after he's made one chop step.

I can see Gronk stopping from that stride in two and a half, three chop steps max. But that's just stopping - he then would have to launch himself back in the opposite direction towards the ball.

EDIT: And there's no such thing as "Defensive Holding" on a receiver when the ball is in the air towards that receiver. That call is made before the ball is in the air.

[Franklin Delano Bluth]

basically it proved that at worst defensive holding should have been called.

Are you quite sure you know the rules?

Because this clause suggests heavily that you don't.

Once the ball's in the air, holding on the defense is out. It's PI or nothing.

[Qazox]

basically it proved that at worst defensive holding should have been called.

Are you quite sure you know the rules?

Because this clause suggests heavily that you don't.

Once the ball's in the air, holding on the defense is out. It's PI or nothing.

Fine then Pass Interference should've been called.

[Bralia]

If he didn't have 235 lbs draped over him, he had a chance. But basically it proved that at worst defensive holding should have been called.

Except no. I still disagree with them that "even without the additional mass, Gronk would've had a play on the ball."

You can see him make one and a half chop steps before the brunt of the contact begins. ESPN also calling "hand on shoulder" the initiation of contact and, therefore, the initiation of added mass is entirely inaccurate, too, and even by that definition, "contact" happens after he's made one chop step.

I can see Gronk stopping from that stride in two and a half, three chop steps max. But that's just stopping - he then would have to launch himself back in the opposite direction towards the ball.

EDIT: And there's no such thing as "Defensive Holding" on a receiver when the ball is in the air towards that receiver. That call is made before the ball is in the air.

That right there. That argument needs to be mentioned to all Patriots fans and the other decriers of the no-call.

[Pope Joan]

For those of you who are fans of both American Football and Association Football, this is a pretty neat crossover - NFL team logos redesigned to be crests.

http://www.footballasfootball.com/

Woot! My Steelers have a black castle, which is also the center of my own clan crest! http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... en.svg.png

I think Baltimore is well done, too, which yes smacks of trachery.

[Jedoria]

Thursday night, Saints vs Falcons.

Rivalry time.

[Starkiller101]

Thursday night, Saints vs Falcons.

Rivalry time.

Saints won done.

[Gaveo]

For those of you who are fans of both American Football and Association Football, this is a pretty neat crossover - NFL team logos redesigned to be crests.

http://www.footballasfootball.com/

Yeah, I heard of that.

That is flipping awesome. :3

[Psycentric]

Thursday night, Saints vs Falcons.

Rivalry time.

The Saints should have this game won but it is the falcons. all the saints need to do it keep that defense great.

[The Confederacy of Styx]

Rivalry games are always tight, but the Saints are just a goddamn juggernaut.

[Psycentric]

Rivalry games are always tight, but the Saints are just a goddamn juggernaut.

Now with a good running game! #Unstoppable offensive