Church State in Public And in Private

[Vazdania]

It should be as public as people want it to be. The state should have no opinion for or against any particular religion or religions.

Then how do you support theocracy?

That is my ideologue ideals.

[Ainin]

Absolutely none.

Why?

Because.

[Bombadil]

None whatsoever. If people want a religion they should keep it private. That said, religion - being a multi-billion dollar industry - should be paying its fair share of taxes, of course.

SO you're against freedom of expression and speech on public property. Good to know.

WTF are you talking about?

[Arkansaw]

I agree with you, in fact I think some states should become independent states altogether

Like Texas. Texas is so different from the rest of the US, it might as well be an independent nation.

Religion should be as public as people want, as long as there is no "required" prayer in schools, I'm fine with it.

If Texas is going, take us in Arkansas with you. We're like little Texas.

[Neo Rome Republic]

Then how do you support theocracy?

That is my ideologue ideals.

Why?????? Well, so much for treating everyone equally.

[Ainin]

None whatsoever. If people want a religion they should keep it private. That said, religion - being a multi-billion dollar industry - should be paying its fair share of taxes, of course.

SO you're against freedom of expression and speech on public property. Good to know.

Well... That was random.

[Caninope]

None whatsoever. If people want a religion they should keep it private. That said, religion - being a multi-billion dollar industry - should be paying its fair share of taxes, of course.

And why should I keep my religion private?

[Vazdania]

SO you're against freedom of expression and speech on public property. Good to know.

WTF are you talking about?

There is this thing called freedom of speech and freedom of expression that applies to public property. Religion falls under these two catagories and as such religion should be allowed to be freely expressed and spoken of in public.

[Blasveck]

Then how do you support theocracy?

That is my ideologue ideals.

Theocracies have typically been pretty shit for humanity, haven't they?

[Slovenya]

Let me just clarify hear: Ottoman religious autonomy was, for instance, infinitely preferable to Byzantine, "it's not okay, purge the heretic" policies.

However, every time this happens all it does is thrust a divide between the religious group and the larger society. It pointlessly Balkanizes the populace, and creates tension because the religious group inevitably always desires yet greater autonomy to deal with things their own way (the government, obviously wanting the opposite.)

It's a recipe for Sectarianism.

We're already divided, those who believe in God, and those who dont. That's how it should be, and it won't change. Even if the matter isnt about religion, people will always be divided.

[Vazdania]

That is my ideologue ideals.

Theocracies have typically been pretty shit for humanity, haven't they?

Not really.

[4years]

WTF are you talking about?

There is this thing called freedom of speech and freedom of expression that applies to public property. Religion falls under these two catagories and as such religion should be allowed to be freely expressed and spoken of in public.

Yes, but what does that have to do with the post you quoted?

[Third Mexican Empire]

I really like what the U.S. Constitution and the Founding Fathers have to say on the issue. Why don't we just follow that?

[Blasveck]

Theocracies have typically been pretty shit for humanity, haven't they?

Not really.

*points at current theocracies in the Middle East*

[Bonnaful]

Religion in public should be okay just along it is not overly aggressive with its approach (eg. KKK) . In private life people should be able to follow whatever religion they want. A school should not support a specific religion unless a religious school. However students should be allowed to talk about religion in their school unless they are aggressive about it or completely distract from education. Government should not have no involvement in religion.

[4years]

Theocracies have typically been pretty shit for humanity, haven't they?

Not really.

Roman Empire, feudal Europe, Nazi Germany, modern Iran, etc.

Yeah, they have been.

[Forster Keys]

One nation under Dog.

[Caninope]

I really like what the U.S. Constitution and the Founding Fathers have to say on the issue. Why don't we just follow that?

Sure. I guess we're bringing back state-supported churches and prayer then?

[4years]

I really like what the U.S. Constitution and the Founding Fathers have to say on the issue. Why don't we just follow that?

Next to nothing?

[Vazdania]

Not really.

*points at current theocracies in the Middle East*

*points at Norway, the UK, Greece, and Finland, among others*

[Vazdania]

Not really.

Roman Empire, feudal Europe, Nazi Germany, modern Iran, etc.

Yeah, they have been.

Norway, the UK, Greece, and Finland, among others have a state church.

[Neo Rome Republic]

*points at current theocracies in the Middle East*

*points at Norway, the UK, Greece, and Finland, among others*

You're pointing to countries where a large amount of people are non-religious.
I'm pretty sure the church doesn't rule the government in those states.

[4years]

*points at current theocracies in the Middle East*

*points at Norway, the UK, Greece, and Finland, among others*

*cough* those aren't theocracies *cough*

[Vazdania]

*points at Norway, the UK, Greece, and Finland, among others*

You're pointing to countries where a large amount of people are non-religious.

and yet they have a state church.

[Vazdania]

*points at Norway, the UK, Greece, and Finland, among others*

*cough* those aren't theocracies *cough*

eh....I suppose that is true.