Abortion and Capital Punishment

by **Solarys** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:41 pm

Jamessonia wrote:
Solarys wrote:
Depends on the method of execution. A single lead bullet is more cost effective, wouldn't you agree ?

I don't think we do that anymore...

hm...

by **New Randia** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:41 pm

Blasveck wrote:I apologize. That was out of line.

It just seems weird to me, that some (Not All) Christians support the death penalty.

I doubt Jesus would do the same.

Matthew 18:6
But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

by **Jamessonia** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:41 pm

I hate it when people just quote the Bible and don't explain what they mean, like it explains itself or something 'cuz it's the Bible.

by **Ceannairceach** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:42 pm

Solarys wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Many won't. That's what life in prison is for.

Tell me, why are you so in favor of wasting taxpayer money for executions when life in prison is so much more cost effective?

Depends on the method of execution. A single lead bullet is more cost effective, wouldn't you agree ?

Nope. The trials alone cost more than life in prison ever will.

by **Blasveck** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:43 pm

New Randia wrote:
Blasveck wrote:I apologize. That was out of line.

It just seems weird to me, that some (Not All) Christians support the death penalty.

I doubt Jesus would do the same.

Matthew 18:6
But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

Can you please give context instead of cherry pick?

by **Seitonjin** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:43 pm

Jamessonia wrote:I hate it when people just quote the Bible and don't explain what they mean, like it explains itself or something 'cuz it's the Bible.

But my sig then :c

Oh well, it is implied you understand upfront I guess.

by **Shaggai** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:45 pm

Einsiev wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
Some Christian you are.

Excuse you?

Judge not, lest ye be judged in turn.

Love thine enemies.

Thou shalt not kill.

Need I go on?

by **Jamessonia** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:45 pm

New Randia wrote:
Blasveck wrote:I apologize. That was out of line.

It just seems weird to me, that some (Not All) Christians support the death penalty.

I doubt Jesus would do the same.

Matthew 18:6
But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

I was actually referring to this.

by **Seitonjin** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:46 pm

Shaggai wrote:
Einsiev wrote:Excuse you?

Judge not, lest ye be judged in turn.

Love thine enemies.

Thou shalt not kill.

Need I go on?

John 8:7! John 8:7! /carried away by security

by **Sociobiology** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:46 pm

Solarys wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Many won't. That's what life in prison is for.

Tell me, why are you so in favor of wasting taxpayer money for executions when life in prison is so much more cost effective?

Depends on the method of execution. A single lead bullet is more cost effective, wouldn't you agree ?

nope, because they must be given a full set of appeals first, which costs quite a lot.

plus I prefer such deviancy alive in a controlled setting so we can find out what makes it tick, and make them happen less.

by **Shaggai** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:47 pm

Seitonjin wrote:
Shaggai wrote:Judge not, lest ye be judged in turn.

Love thine enemies.

Thou shalt not kill.

Need I go on?

John 8:7! John 8:7! /carried away by security

Yeah, that too.

by **Seitonjin** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:48 pm

I wonder if there are any other consistent pro-lifers here...

by **Geilinor** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:48 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Solarys wrote:
Depends on the method of execution. A single lead bullet is more cost effective, wouldn't you agree ?

Nope. The trials alone cost more than life in prison ever will.

Source: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/29552692/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/execute-or-not-question-cost/#.UgrTZkDX5D4
The death penalty, while it may seem cheap and easy, is not so. New Jersey spent $4.2 million for each person executed before they abolished it.

Legal costs were too great and produced no result, lawmakers said. After spending an estimated $4.2 million for each death sentence, the state had executed no one since 1963.

by **The Norgan Alliance** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:49 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
The Great America wrote:Is there anyone here that is against both abortion and capital punishment. I am against both. I think it is ironic to be either pro-choice and against capital punishment or pro-life and for capital punishment. I want to know if there are any people like me here.

It's not ironic. One is a person, the other is not.

Criminals aren't people!

by **Geilinor** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:50 pm

The Norgan Alliance wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:It's not ironic. One is a person, the other is not.

Criminals aren't people!

NSG is so sarcastic sometimes.

by **Jamessonia** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:53 pm

Geilinor wrote:
The Norgan Alliance wrote:Criminals aren't people!

NSG is so sarcastic sometimes.

Sometimes? I'd say 50% of all NSG posts are at least a little sarcastic.

by **Marquette of Pacific** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:55 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:I am for capital punishment under certain instances (rape, gang shot callers, ect.). I'm also pro choice. And for your information, being pro choice is not "anti-life", as it has to do with the lack of personhood of the fetus, and, more importantly, women's right to bodily sovereignty.

I'm starting to like you more and more every time I read one of your posts.

by **Regnum Dominae** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:57 pm

Seitonjin wrote:I wonder if there are any other consistent pro-lifers here...

What do you mean by consistent pro lifer?

by **The Norgan Alliance** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:58 pm

Seitonjin wrote:I wonder if there are any other consistent pro-lifers here...

Me!

by **Minarchist States** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:58 pm

The Norgan Alliance wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:It's not ironic. One is a person, the other is not.

Criminals aren't people!

Just like in the good old days...grab a rope and hang a dope. :roll:

by **Geilinor** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:59 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Seitonjin wrote:I wonder if there are any other consistent pro-lifers here...

What do you mean by consistent pro lifer?

Anti-abortion, anti-capital punishment.

by **Seitonjin** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:00 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Seitonjin wrote:I wonder if there are any other consistent pro-lifers here...

What do you mean by consistent pro lifer?

Ban both abortion, unless needed, and death penalty. Provide elderly care and childcare of abandoned children. Provide help clinics for those with suicidal thoughts and the like. See? I am fucking consistent.

The Norgan Alliance wrote:
Seitonjin wrote:I wonder if there are any other consistent pro-lifers here...

Me!

Prove it.

by **The Norgan Alliance** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:00 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:What do you mean by consistent pro lifer?

Anti-abortion, anti-capital punishment.

Yay!

by **Geilinor** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:02 pm

The Norgan Alliance wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Anti-abortion, anti-capital punishment.

Yay!

I'm not a pro-lifer, I was just explaining to Regnum what consistent pro-lifer means.

by **Seitonjin** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:02 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:What do you mean by consistent pro lifer?

Anti-abortion, anti-capital punishment.

Pro care for elderly and abandoned children too! Do not forget them.

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