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Postby Blasveck » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:29 pm

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Think of all the daughter and sons, brothers and sisters, all the families that died in 9/11.

Who would we be by stooping to his level, and taking him awy from his family.

I'm not saying we let him get away Scott free, but killing him won't do justice.

The difference is that those people were innocent. They were being punished for no crime except being in the wrong place at the wrong time.


Bin Laden killed.

Why should we stoop to his level?
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Postby Blasveck » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:30 pm

Einsiev wrote:I am for Capital Punishment but anti Abortion.


Some Christian you are.
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Postby Jamessonia » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:30 pm

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Jamessonia wrote:The difference is that those people were innocent. They were being punished for no crime except being in the wrong place at the wrong time.


Bin Laden killed.

Why should we stoop to his level?

It isn't that simple. That's like saying: the kidnapper stole these people's freedom, we can't do the same to him by putting him in prison.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:30 pm

Tyriece wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:No, but you do imply that it is acceptable for them to kill their offspring, while the same is not true for non-rape offspring and the offspring of the wealthy. This means that they are worth less than rich, non-rape children, who must be protected.


I am giving a example (1 out of many) as to WHY they might get a abortion. So yes when you are so poor that you cant survive on your own, let alone a child...then ya.

So poor children are worth less. Thanks for clarifying.

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Postby Einsiev » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:31 pm

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Einsiev wrote:I am for Capital Punishment but anti Abortion.


Some Christian you are.

Excuse you?
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Postby Seitonjin » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:31 pm

Einsiev wrote:I am for Capital Punishment but anti Abortion.

I think you are misguided.

Pro-life should be a movement and term that seeks to ban both abortion and the death penalty and protect the concerns of the current living. And keeping abandoned children alive.

If you aren't at all consistent in your pro-lifeness, then you are a hypocritical and reactionary fellow.
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Postby Blasveck » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:32 pm

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Some Christian you are.

Excuse you?


I apologize. That was out of line.

It just seems weird to me, that some (Not All) Christians support the death penalty.

I doubt Jesus would do the same.
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Postby Seitonjin » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:32 pm

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I am giving a example (1 out of many) as to WHY they might get a abortion. So yes when you are so poor that you cant survive on your own, let alone a child...then ya.

So poor children are worth less. Thanks for clarifying.

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Postby Skenderos » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:33 pm

Capital punishment is bad. How much better is society if we do exactly what the crime is. Even if it is done to a criminal.
Abortion is very very bad. Watch this video: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7y2KsU_dhw ... y2KsU_dhwI


Also, Gay Marriage is bad.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:33 pm

Tsmida Eri wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
Think of all the daughter and sons, brothers and sisters, all the families that died in 9/11.

Who would we be by stooping to his level, and taking him awy from his family.

I'm not saying we let him get away Scott free, but killing him won't do justice.


So what? If he was still alive, he'd be in a prison in GITMO, and no prison can secure everyone.

He'd probably break out and kill even more innocent people. That's not justice. Killing may be a sin, but it's better to kill killers than to let them keep on killing.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... supermax-/

No one has ever escaped from a supermax. What makes you think the world's most wanted man could've?

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Postby Blasveck » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:33 pm

Jamessonia wrote:
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Bin Laden killed.

Why should we stoop to his level?

It isn't that simple. That's like saying: the kidnapper stole these people's freedom, we can't do the same to him by putting him in prison.


Because locking him up in a box for 10 years does nothing.
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Postby Jamessonia » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:34 pm

Blasveck wrote:
Jamessonia wrote:It isn't that simple. That's like saying: the kidnapper stole these people's freedom, we can't do the same to him by putting him in prison.


Because locking him up in a box for 10 years does nothing.

Who said anything about 10? What about life sentences?
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Postby Ceannairceach » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:34 pm

Skenderos wrote:Capital punishment is bad. How much better is society if we do exactly what the crime is. Even if it is done to a criminal.
Abortion is very very bad. Watch this video: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7y2KsU_dhw ... y2KsU_dhwI


Also, Gay Marriage is bad.

Video is bullshit. Go away.

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Postby Einsiev » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:35 pm

Blasveck wrote:
Einsiev wrote:Excuse you?


I apologize. That was out of line.

It just seems weird to me, that some (Not All) Christians support the death penalty.

I doubt Jesus would do the same.

I support it because serial killers should never be allowed back in the free world etc.
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Postby Geilinor » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:35 pm

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Frisivisia wrote:So you support people controlling other people's bodies provided they have fucked them without the use of birth control?


Unless the pregnancy was a result of rape, yes in this case.

Why should the father get to control the woman's body?
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Postby Blasveck » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:36 pm

Einsiev wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
I apologize. That was out of line.

It just seems weird to me, that some (Not All) Christians support the death penalty.

I doubt Jesus would do the same.

I support it because serial killers should never be allowed back in the free world etc.



Who said they would be?
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Postby Ceannairceach » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:36 pm

Einsiev wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
I apologize. That was out of line.

It just seems weird to me, that some (Not All) Christians support the death penalty.

I doubt Jesus would do the same.

I support it because serial killers should never be allowed back in the free world etc.

Many won't. That's what life in prison is for.

Tell me, why are you so in favor of wasting taxpayer money for executions when life in prison is so much more cost effective?

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Postby Geilinor » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:36 pm

Einsiev wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
I apologize. That was out of line.

It just seems weird to me, that some (Not All) Christians support the death penalty.

I doubt Jesus would do the same.

I support it because serial killers should never be allowed back in the free world etc.

That's what life imprisonment is for. Prison isn't the free world.
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Postby Seitonjin » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:37 pm

Einsiev wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
I apologize. That was out of line.

It just seems weird to me, that some (Not All) Christians support the death penalty.

I doubt Jesus would do the same.

I support it because serial killers should never be allowed back in the free world etc.

Rehab is proven to be more effective and returns people back to society who can in turn boost the economy.
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Postby Jamessonia » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:38 pm

Seitonjin wrote:
Einsiev wrote:I support it because serial killers should never be allowed back in the free world etc.

Rehab is proven to be more effective and returns people back to society who can in turn boost the economy.

Rehab doesn't always work. Some people just keep going through the revolving door.
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Postby Solarys » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:38 pm

Geilinor wrote:
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Unless the pregnancy was a result of rape, yes in this case.

Why should the father get to control the woman's body?


Marriage is supposed to be a bond of souls. Call me old fashioned, but i believe that one you have married or are in a similar relationship, there is no separation between wife & husband. Both have equal control and authority over each other. Consider it as being the different halves of the same body.

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Postby Blasveck » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:38 pm

Skenderos wrote:Capital punishment is bad. How much better is society if we do exactly what the crime is. Even if it is done to a criminal.
Abortion is very very bad. Watch this video: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7y2KsU_dhw ... y2KsU_dhwI


Also, Gay Marriage is bad.


1. Abortion is still very very legal.
2. No, gay marriage is not. If you want to discuss gay marriage, go to a gay marriage thread or make your own.
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Postby Seitonjin » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:39 pm

Jamessonia wrote:
Seitonjin wrote:Rehab is proven to be more effective and returns people back to society who can in turn boost the economy.

Rehab doesn't always work. Some people just keep going through the revolving door.

There are bad eggs that slip through the system but no one is perfect so hah :p
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Postby Solarys » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:39 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Einsiev wrote:I support it because serial killers should never be allowed back in the free world etc.

Many won't. That's what life in prison is for.

Tell me, why are you so in favor of wasting taxpayer money for executions when life in prison is so much more cost effective?


Depends on the method of execution. A single lead bullet is more cost effective, wouldn't you agree ?

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Postby Jamessonia » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:40 pm

Solarys wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Many won't. That's what life in prison is for.

Tell me, why are you so in favor of wasting taxpayer money for executions when life in prison is so much more cost effective?


Depends on the method of execution. A single lead bullet is more cost effective, wouldn't you agree ?

I don't think we do that anymore...
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