Abortion and Capital Punishment

[AiliailiA]

... As for capital punishment, well, obviously Hitler would be an exception... But anyways, an eye for an eye, buddy.

Are you intent on making us all blind?

Except Hitler apparently

[Kemalist]

I support both. Abortion right up to 20 weeks and public execution for mass murderers, rapists and child abusers (by hanging from a crane just like in Iran, one of the rare things I admire about them).

[Threlizdun]

I support both. Abortion right up to 20 weeks and public execution for mass murderers, rapists and child abusers (by hanging from a crane just like in Iran, one of the rare things I admire about them).

You admire their violations of human rights and attempts to stir up some sort of public death culture?

[Kemalist]

I support both. Abortion right up to 20 weeks and public execution for mass murderers, rapists and child abusers (by hanging from a crane just like in Iran, one of the rare things I admire about them).

You admire their violations of human rights and attempts to stir up some sort of public death culture?

They have no mercy for rapists. That's what I admire. I think the rapists should be punished in the harshest way. The same goes for the mass murderers and child abusers.

[Threlizdun]

They have no mercy for rapists. That's what I admire.

I can't say a lack of mercy is something I find admirable. Generally that is something I, and the vast majority of the world for that matter, consider to be utterly repulsive and a horrendous moral error.

[Kemalist]

They have no mercy for rapists. That's what I admire.

I can't say a lack of mercy is something I find admirable. Generally that is something I, and the vast majority of the world for that matter, consider to be utterly repulsive and a horrendous moral error.

Well; that's just my opinion.

[Charlotte Ryberg]

In my opinion I should deal with crime and punishment and pregnancy separately. I can't see a relationship between these subjects.

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

I support reproductive rights, and do not support capital punishment.

[Curlywurlyia]

I am against both abortion and capital punishment. Human beings should not have the right to decide to take another human beings life, whether that human being is a foetus or a murderer.

[Saint Kitten]

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[Kummen]

Yes, I oppose both abortion and capital punishment.

However, I don't think that supporting one makes opposing the other philosophically untenable.

I imagine Patricia Heaton'll agree with you. Here's what I hope is a useful link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patricia_Heaton#Political_and_social_advocacy

On that note, I have no quarrel with abortion or capital punishment. At all.

[Democratic Republic of the Triumvirate]

Yes.
No to both of them.

[Kummen]

Yes.
No to both of them.

Were you talking to me, or were you talking to someone else, and I ended up appearing just as you posted?

[Saint Kitten]

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[Saint Kitten]

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[Regnum Dominae]

I think you should only use abortion if your unwillingly umm... Committed the act. If you did it on your own free will then there was always the morning after pill and such things to stop a baby from growing.

Sex is not consent to pregnancy.

[Saint Kitten]

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[Democratic Republic of the Triumvirate]

Yes.
No to both of them.

Were you talking to me, or were you talking to someone else, and I ended up appearing just as you posted?

The OP.

[Regnum Dominae]

Sex is not consent to pregnancy.

Sorry, what? I didn't understand that.

Having sex is not consenting to getting pregnant.

[Lerodan Chinamerica]

Because liberals think dead fetuses are tastier than dead rapists.

[Regnum Dominae]

Because liberals think dead fetuses are tastier than dead rapists.

Must. eat. more. babby.

[Saint Kitten]

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[Lerodan Chinamerica]

Because liberals think dead fetuses are tastier than dead rapists.

Must. eat. more. babby.

Obama: Women have a right to their own body!

Heeheeheehee... maw babby for me!!! NOM NOM NOM

[Radiatia]

Although I understand the position of those who see a contradiction, I do not personally see a contradiction.

Both sides of the debate tend to, in fact, argue the same thing as the other side but in reverse.

The Pro-Choice/Pro-Criminal¹ side argues that a foetus is not a human, but that capital punishment is wrong on some level.

The Pro-Life/Pro-Justice side argues that life begin at conception, but that criminals are not human.

In principle I would align myself with the second group, as I am pro-life² but also pro death penalty³.

Footnotes:

¹ I'm just pulling yer legs with the slightly inflammatory titles, please do relax I have an odd sense of humour

² I'm pro-life in principle, in that I believe that life begins at conception and that a foetus is therefore a human. In practice I still support abortion in cases such as if it endangers the mother's physical or mental health, or in cases such as rape and incest, or if the child would live a horrible unpleasant life due to poverty or genetic factors.

³ Again, in principle I support the death penalty in that I have no moral objection to it. I'm not big on the whole "rehabilitation/second chances" thing, and reject the idea that criminals should be privy to human rights when they have failed to uphold their human responsibilities. However in practice I accept that we can rarely prove beyond doubt someone's guilt, and that we should not risk executing innocent people and thus feel that it's an impractical punishment.

[AiliailiA]

Because liberals think dead fetuses are tastier than dead rapists.

Illiberals want an excuse to kill people. Rapists give them an excuse but fetuses don't.