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What languages do you speak?

Iberian (Spanish, Portuguese, Catalan, etc...)
28
12%
Semitic languages and other Middle Easter Languages (Arabic, Hebrew, Yiddish, Turkish, Farsi, etc...)
12
5%
French, French Creoles, Italian, Sicilian
41
18%
German/Dutch
45
20%
Chinese (Mandarin, Cantonese, Wu, etc...)
8
4%
Asian Indian languages (Hindi, Punjabi, Bengali, etc...)
7
3%
East European Languages (Russian, Polish, Romanian, Greek, etc...)
23
10%
Japanese or Korean
10
4%
Nordic languages (Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, Icelandic, Finnish)
17
7%
And of course, other (Please explain)
37
16%
 
Total votes : 228

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Postby Immoren » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:09 am

Sassinia wrote:
HorusLand wrote:And then you have people complaining and trying to reorder them, and then one (Camelza) succeeds at making a list, which has only one problem, so they all decide to split the languages by region.

Now, if you read the sentence I just wrote over and over again, it makes a logical loop. :p
Of course, I won't accept that. I needz correct groupings. :)

Convince Max, or [violet], to code it so that there can be a hundred poll options. Problem solved.


*then forum commited suicide after someone tried to make 100 option poll*
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Postby Horusland » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:10 am

Sassinia wrote:
HorusLand wrote:And then you have people complaining and trying to reorder them, and then one (Camelza) succeeds at making a list, which has only one problem, so they all decide to split the languages by region.

Now, if you read the sentence I just wrote over and over again, it makes a logical loop. :p
Of course, I won't accept that. I needz correct groupings. :)

Convince Max, or [violet], to code it so that there can be a hundred poll options. Problem solved.

I'm not asking the mods anything. They just get angry.
Not violet. Violet is nice. But others will respond, and some are really crazy.
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Postby Risottia » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:10 am

Chinese Regions wrote:Chinese, Korean and Japanese are unrelated.


Iirc, Korean and Japanese are considered by a fair lot of linguists as parts of the Altaic family.
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Sassinia
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Postby Sassinia » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:11 am

Who's that second person who voted for the Indian option? Come forward!
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No, we aren't the Sassanids nor descendants of them.
..and no, we aren't Muslims, either.
THE KINGDOM OF SASSINIA
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Capital City: Terz
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Risottia
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Postby Risottia » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:12 am

HorusLand wrote:You know that thread with ''Who joins the EU next?'' ? Yeah, you put Moldova with Ukraine and Armenia. That's just wrong.

Why? Ukraine borders Moldova. And the Kavkaz region is just there. Plus they're all former Soviet Republics.
Anyway, this isn't the right place to discuss it.
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Postby Jukraina » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:12 am

Immoren wrote:
Jukraina wrote:
Finnish is closer to Estonian than Sami.

I wasn't denying that.


Í know.
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Camelza
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Postby Camelza » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:13 am

HorusLand wrote:
Camelza wrote:Split the languages by region. :p

And then you have people complaining and trying to reorder them, and then one (Camelza) succeeds at making a list, which has only one problem, so they all decide to split the languages by region.

Now, if you read the sentence I just wrote over and over again, it makes a logical loop. :p
Of course, I won't accept that. I needz correct groupings. :)

You'll have to ignore some quite important linguistic groups, unfortunately.
But, it would be better if languges were put among their other related languges and not by region.

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Postby Horusland » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:14 am

Risottia wrote:
HorusLand wrote:You know that thread with ''Who joins the EU next?'' ? Yeah, you put Moldova with Ukraine and Armenia. That's just wrong.

Why? Ukraine borders Moldova. And the Kavkaz region is just there. Plus they're all former Soviet Republics.
Anyway, this isn't the right place to discuss it.

Russia borders China. Russia is definitely Chinese.
*nods*

Yes, Russia did conquer a bunch of countries and kill a bunch of people in them. That's not a reason to make all those countries have something in common. Romanians will still be Romanians, however much Russia comes and tries to kill them.
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Postby Camelza » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:14 am

Sassinia wrote:Who's that second person who voted for the Indian option? Come forward!

Nightkill ...pherhaps.

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Sassinia
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Postby Sassinia » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:15 am

HorusLand wrote:
Risottia wrote:Why? Ukraine borders Moldova. And the Kavkaz region is just there. Plus they're all former Soviet Republics.
Anyway, this isn't the right place to discuss it.

Russia borders China. Russia is definitely Chinese.
*nods*

Yes, Russia did conquer a bunch of countries and kill a bunch of people in them. That's not a reason to make all those countries have something in common. Romanians will still be Romanians, however much Russia comes and tries to kill them.

Romulans?

Sorry, first thing that came to my mind when you said Romanian.
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No, we aren't the Sassanids nor descendants of them.
..and no, we aren't Muslims, either.
THE KINGDOM OF SASSINIA
Head of State: King Ireni Murd
Capital City: Terz
Population: 7,000,000,000 and counting
RP Military: 31,000,000 active, 34,000,000 reserve
Tech: MT
Map
12 [3] 4 5
Increased readiness

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Nationalist State of Knox
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:16 am

HorusLand wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:I take it you were trying to say "I think you know more French than me"?

Yes. :(

Okay.

First of all, you have to understand the French have two verbs for "to know": one, "to know (people)" and another "to know (knowledge)". You used "connaître", which is the former; you wanted "savoir".

Secondly, you conjugated the verb incorrectly. You used the "ais" ending, or the first person singular indicative. You should've used the second person plural indicative with "vous", the polite/plural form of "you". Taking into account "savoir" is an irregular verb, the correct conjugation would have been "savez".

Thirdly, you botched something with "de" and capitalised "français" (and left off the cedilla).

So, a correct sentence would be:

"Je crois que vous savez plus français que moi."
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Horusland
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Postby Horusland » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:16 am

Sassinia wrote:
HorusLand wrote:Russia borders China. Russia is definitely Chinese.
*nods*

Yes, Russia did conquer a bunch of countries and kill a bunch of people in them. That's not a reason to make all those countries have something in common. Romanians will still be Romanians, however much Russia comes and tries to kill them.

Romulans?

Sorry, first thing that came to my mind when you said Romanian.

XD
The first thing that came into my mind when you started talking about Indian and Bengali was Eaglleia. I think you know him, he's been in a few RPs with you and I.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:16 am

Camelza wrote:
HorusLand wrote:And then you have people complaining and trying to reorder them, and then one (Camelza) succeeds at making a list, which has only one problem, so they all decide to split the languages by region.

Now, if you read the sentence I just wrote over and over again, it makes a logical loop. :p
Of course, I won't accept that. I needz correct groupings. :)

You'll have to ignore some quite important linguistic groups, unfortunately.
But, it would be better if languges were put among their other related languges and not by region.


Why not: Screw poll. People will just answer in posts?

Or, let the poll cater to the NS demographic and focus on Romance and Germanic languages with the less likely options all grouped together?
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Risottia
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Postby Risottia » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:16 am

HorusLand wrote:
Risottia wrote:Why? Ukraine borders Moldova. And the Kavkaz region is just there. Plus they're all former Soviet Republics.
Anyway, this isn't the right place to discuss it.

Russia borders China. Russia is definitely Chinese.
*nods*

Yes, Russia did conquer a bunch of countries and kill a bunch of people in them. That's not a reason to make all those countries have something in common. Romanians will still be Romanians, however much Russia comes and tries to kill them.


Your argument is both
a) stupid and
b) a threadjack.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:17 am

Risottia wrote:
Chinese Regions wrote:Chinese, Korean and Japanese are unrelated.


Iirc, Korean and Japanese are considered by a fair lot of linguists as parts of the Altaic family.

A minority compared to those who don't.
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Horusland
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Postby Horusland » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:17 am

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
HorusLand wrote:Yes. :(

Okay.

First of all, you have to understand the French have two verbs for "to know": one, "to know (people)" and another "to know (knowledge)". You used "connaître", which is the former; you wanted "savoir".

Secondly, you conjugated the verb incorrectly. You used the "ais" ending, or the first person singular indicative. You should've used the second person plural indicative with "vous", the polite/plural form of "you". Taking into account "savoir" is an irregular verb, the correct conjugation would have been "savez".

Thirdly, you botched something with "de" and capitalised "français" (and left off the cedilla).

So, a correct sentence would be:

"Je crois que vous savez plus français que moi."

No cedilla on Horus' internet posts. :)
Thanks.
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Postby Horusland » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:18 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Camelza wrote:You'll have to ignore some quite important linguistic groups, unfortunately.
But, it would be better if languges were put among their other related languges and not by region.


Why not: Screw poll. People will just answer in posts?

Or, let the poll cater to the NS demographic and focus on Romance and Germanic languages with the less likely options all grouped together?

That is a GREAT idea. Infinite poll answers, instead of in a poll, in the OP itself!
Yay!
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The Blaatschapen
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:19 am

HorusLand wrote:
Risottia wrote:Why? Ukraine borders Moldova. And the Kavkaz region is just there. Plus they're all former Soviet Republics.
Anyway, this isn't the right place to discuss it.

Russia borders China. Russia is definitely Chinese.
*nods*

Yes, Russia did conquer a bunch of countries and kill a bunch of people in them. That's not a reason to make all those countries have something in common. Romanians will still be Romanians, however much Russia comes and tries to kill them.


Actually, it would give them something in common. After all there are whole countries who have nothing in common with themself except for having been conquered by the same other country. Indonesia is a good example. Various different cultures and languages, and the only thing that the country has in common was that it was once all Dutch.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:19 am

HorusLand wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:Okay.

First of all, you have to understand the French have two verbs for "to know": one, "to know (people)" and another "to know (knowledge)". You used "connaître", which is the former; you wanted "savoir".

Secondly, you conjugated the verb incorrectly. You used the "ais" ending, or the first person singular indicative. You should've used the second person plural indicative with "vous", the polite/plural form of "you". Taking into account "savoir" is an irregular verb, the correct conjugation would have been "savez".

Thirdly, you botched something with "de" and capitalised "français" (and left off the cedilla).

So, a correct sentence would be:

"Je crois que vous savez plus français que moi."

No cedilla on Horus' internet posts. :)
Thanks.

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Postby Horusland » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:19 am

Risottia wrote:
HorusLand wrote:Russia borders China. Russia is definitely Chinese.
*nods*

Yes, Russia did conquer a bunch of countries and kill a bunch of people in them. That's not a reason to make all those countries have something in common. Romanians will still be Romanians, however much Russia comes and tries to kill them.


Your argument is both
a) stupid and
b) a threadjack.

Doesn't threadjacking mean stealing a thread? O.o

Anyway, the truth is the truth. However much you get angry about it.
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Postby Risottia » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:19 am

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Risottia wrote:
Iirc, Korean and Japanese are considered by a fair lot of linguists as parts of the Altaic family.

A minority compared to those who don't.

The list quoted in the wiki disagrees.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altaic_lan ... _of_Altaic
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Postby Camelza » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:20 am

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
HorusLand wrote:Yes. :(

Okay.

First of all, you have to understand the French have two verbs for "to know": one, "to know (people)" and another "to know (knowledge)". You used "connaître", which is the former; you wanted "savoir".

Secondly, you conjugated the verb incorrectly. You used the "ais" ending, or the first person singular indicative. You should've used the second person plural indicative with "vous", the polite/plural form of "you". Taking into account "savoir" is an irregular verb, the correct conjugation would have been "savez".

Thirdly, you botched something with "de" and capitalised "français" (and left off the cedilla).

So, a correct sentence would be:

"Je crois que vous savez plus français que moi."

Knox, tu es un national-socialiste de grammaire.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:20 am

HorusLand wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Why not: Screw poll. People will just answer in posts?

Or, let the poll cater to the NS demographic and focus on Romance and Germanic languages with the less likely options all grouped together?

That is a GREAT idea. Infinite poll answers, instead of in a poll, in the OP itself!
Yay!


I never said anything about including all options in the OP.

Also, the answers are not infinite. Unless there is an infinite amount of languages :p
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Postby Risottia » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:22 am

HorusLand wrote:Doesn't threadjacking mean stealing a thread? O.o

You can't "steal" a thread. It means derailing it. Going off-topic if you prefer.
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=52483&p=2190737#p2190735

Anyway, the truth is the truth. However much you get angry about it.

I'm not getting angry. Quit making things up.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:22 am

Risottia wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:A minority compared to those who don't.

The list quoted in the wiki disagrees.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altaic_lan ... _of_Altaic

That's a misrepresentation. "Major critics" are people that have openly spoken out against the theory, not just linguists who disagree with it/support Korean's status as a language isolate.
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