The "Nice Guy" and the friendzone, Society's attitude

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

Basically any person who complains about the "friend zone" doesn't even get to be put in the friend zone with me. They get put in the punch zone.

[Gauntleted Fist]

2D>Real world women.

Twenty eight pages later, still true.

[Czechanada]

Ah, yes, the "friend zone". An unfortunate byproduct of the patriarchy, misogyny, and sexual repression brought to us by capitalism combined with the Abrahamic religions.

[Dovahlan]

Ah, yes, the "friend zone". An unfortunate byproduct of the patriarchy, misogyny, and sexual repression brought to us by capitalism combined with the Abrahamic religions.

[Gauntleted Fist]

Ah, yes, the "friend zone". An unfortunate byproduct of the patriarchy, misogyny, and sexual repression brought to us by capitalism combined with the Abrahamic religions.

What? He's correct.

[Dovahlan]

Here's the thing..

First, the whole 'nice guy' thing is really only a 'thing' at school through early 20's because peer status is more important then. This leads people to focus on people who are basically out of their league. So, for want of another phrase, lower your standards to your own peer group.

Second, the biggest mistake 'nice guys' make is focus on trying to get someone to think 'hmm.. he's a really nice guy', basically you're focused on doing things, often ingenuously, that you think 'nice guys' do - whereas really, you want to get in their pants.

So, be honest, it works in two ways.. first, it means the focus is on saying 'I like you', you're telling her you like her rather than trying to find ways to make her like you, predicated on your own perception of what's likeable, which is probably wrong.

Second, well you're actually being more genuine, which is part of actually being nice over finding some devious means of not ever actually asking but hoping she, I dunno, suddenly kisses you or something.

That's what 'bad guys' do, they make it very clear they like the person - and those who actually are bad do it simply because they know it works.

People like to be liked, they don't really like to have to try and work out who you are, or who you're trying to be.

Over.

I'm generally nice to everyone, unless you get on my nerves... then I can be a dick...

What? He's correct.

I don't see how...

[Kvatchdom]

It's basically their fault for being nice guys.

[Dovahlan]

It's basically their fault for being nice guys.

I can understand that for people who do it just to get in a girls pants. Others, so what, people can be nice.

[Choronzon]

Ah, yes, the "friend zone". An unfortunate byproduct of the patriarchy, misogyny, and sexual repression brought to us by capitalism combined with the Abrahamic religions.

When this is your answer to everything I start to call troll.

[Zavea]

2D>Real world women.

Twenty eight pages later, still true.

billions of years in the future, when our sun has burnt out, humanity has faded away and the earth is little more than an icy rock long past its era as a nurturing cradle of life, the last memory of our civilization will continue to echo across the cosmos, spreading until the end of time itself for listening ears:

"2D women is better than 3D women guys"

[Ostroeuropa]

Just got back from a "date" and can confirm that being a nice person doesn't hinder you in any way.

[Kvatchdom]

It's basically their fault for being nice guys.

I can understand that for people who do it just to get in a girls pants. Others, so what, people can be nice.

What I meant is that if you act like a friend to a girl, you'll be a friend to her, not a boyfriend.

[Dovahlan]

I can understand that for people who do it just to get in a girls pants. Others, so what, people can be nice.

What I meant is that if you act like a friend to a girl, you'll be a friend to her, not a boyfriend.

I have no argument for this... Other than I almost became the boyfriend of one of my female friends... Heck we've even kissed... but alas, she decided she didn't want me... I have dated another friend... more than once...

[Warda]

Just got back from a "date" and can confirm that being a nice person doesn't hinder you in any way.

r u sure

[Czechanada]

Ah, yes, the "friend zone". An unfortunate byproduct of the patriarchy, misogyny, and sexual repression brought to us by capitalism combined with the Abrahamic religions.

When this is your answer to everything I start to call troll.

How? This is a similar debate to the previous ones that we've discussed.

[Ostroeuropa]

Just got back from a "date" and can confirm that being a nice person doesn't hinder you in any way.

r u sure

Very sure. So it's not that these people are "Nice" that is hindering them.

If a psychological wreck like me who is petrified of dating and relationships can manage it and be nice too, then these people have no excuse.

[Gauntleted Fist]

I don't see how...

Your vision has little relevance to what is or is not the truth.

[Dovahlan]

r u sure

Very sure. So it's not that these people are "Nice" that is hindering them.

If a psychological wreck like me who is petrified of dating and relationships can manage it and be nice too, then these people have no excuse.

Nope, sometimes the girl just doesn't want to ruin the friendship, lives too far away, or simply thinks of them as a best friend.

[Slafstopia]

I tend to naturally fall into the nice guy hopeless romantic category due to my complete lack of self-esteem.

[Ostroeuropa]

Very sure. So it's not that these people are "Nice" that is hindering them.

If a psychological wreck like me who is petrified of dating and relationships can manage it and be nice too, then these people have no excuse.

Nope, sometimes the girl just doesn't want to ruin the friendship, lives too far away, or simply thinks of them as a best friend.

That's a specific girl. The claim these people are making is that women in general don't go for nice guys.

[Dovahlan]

I don't see how...

Your vision has little relevance to what is or is not the truth.

I find no truth in it. None of that has nothing to do with this...

[Czechanada]

r u sure

Very sure. So it's not that these people are "Nice" that is hindering them.

If a psychological wreck like me who is petrified of dating and relationships can manage it and be nice too, then these people have no excuse.

High five.

[Gauntleted Fist]

Your vision has little relevance to what is or is not the truth.

I find no truth in it. None of that has nothing to do with this...

Yes, the patriarchy, misogyny, and sexism definitely have nothing to do with the fucking wrong perception that sexist people have of the "friend zone". It's entirely invented out of whole cloth to assuage the feelings of sexist people have of being rejected. What's better, to accept the fact that rejection happens, or to blame those fucking bitches for friend-zoning me?

I know. Let's blame the bitches for friend-zoning me. It's obviously their fault.

[Ostroeuropa]

I find no truth in it. None of that has nothing to do with this...

Yes, the patriarchy, misogyny, and sexism definitely have nothing to do with the fucking wrong perception that sexist people have of the "friend zone". It's entirely invented out of whole cloth to assuage the feelings of sexist people have of being rejected. What's better, to accept the fact that rejection happens, or to blame those fucking bitches for friend-zoning me?

I know. Let's blame the bitches for friend-zoning me. It's obviously their fault.

"The people have voted against us 4 times. What is wrong with them?"

[Dovahlan]

I find no truth in it. None of that has nothing to do with this...

Yes, the patriarchy, misogyny, and sexism definitely have nothing to do with the fucking wrong perception that sexist people have of the "friend zone". It's entirely invented out of whole cloth to assuage the feelings of sexist people have of being rejected. What's better, to accept the fact that rejection happens, or to blame those fucking bitches for friend-zoning me?

I know. Let's blame the bitches for friend-zoning me. It's obviously their fault.

Oh I know rejection happens, I accept it.