The "Nice Guy" and the friendzone, Society's attitude

[Gallowfield]

I know someone is going to say beggars can't be choosers, but I would like to find a woman who can appreciate my less brutish side too. I enjoy writing novels and poems, and I'm not bad at cooking either. I love animals and I'm vegetarian. I'm the kind of guy who trains jujitsu and barehanded fighting one minute, then goes home and takes care of my kittens the next.

You wanna peg all those interests, you gonna have to try online dating.

I have too many interests Multiple martial arts, parkour, yoga, cooking, writing, animals, education, and hopefully a job soon! At least a woman can't say I'm not motivated, right?

[The Parkus Empire]

Should have asked her what the fuck was so funny.

I knew it was the fact that someone like me asked her out. Oh well, she went on to have a series of bad relationships with both boyfriends and her family and friends, so I guess I dodged the bullet there

Shit would piss me the fuck off, but I'm really drunk now so I won't talk anymore and I'm logging off night

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

Thank "G"od those weird crushes I had with my schoolboy buddies turned out to be bisexuality. I can't even think of how depressed and lonely and almost killing myself I would be right now if I turned out to be straight. I remember this pathetic state of being friendzoned despite being the smartest and nicest boy in all school by my female friends between mid childhood and mid adolescence.

I think it is very wrong to hate females if they deny sex or love, even if their main man-bashing bitching turns out to be bullshit if we look at their true experience... what makes them attracted to males from their inner urges is different from what makes them attracted to males rationally, everybody knows that. This is the first and foremost reason why woman cheat. Those women who do it in shari'a countries are the proof that they don't really know what they are doing, like men who behave much like other horny animals sometimes. Makes part of our nature, denying it is silly. Let's do it like they do in the Discovery Channel~

It is better if you learn how to be an increasingly smarter virgin than how to rehab from cuckoldry, I think.

The good part is that mixed-sex sincere friendships are profiting to both males and females in their learning of how to deal with the other sex.

[Gallowfield]

I knew it was the fact that someone like me asked her out. Oh well, she went on to have a series of bad relationships with both boyfriends and her family and friends, so I guess I dodged the bullet there

Shit would piss me the fuck off, but I'm really drunk now so I won't talk anymore and I'm logging off night

Rest well, comrade! I just woke up, hahaha

[Dyakovo]

What's the worse that can happen?

"Fuck you, you're ugly."
"Well fuck you too, bitch."

And that really doesn't happen.

Once I asked a girl out and she laughed hysterically and was like "Are you serious?" and I said yes, and she laughed harder. Ugh, humans.....

So you move on.

[Gallowfield]

Once I asked a girl out and she laughed hysterically and was like "Are you serious?" and I said yes, and she laughed harder. Ugh, humans.....

So you move on.

Granted, not all of my rejections have been so harsh, but every time it happens I feel like I die a little on the inside. After a while, you just get sort of jaded by it.

[No Matter Where You Go]

Personally, I resent the implication that since I haven't had a problem with rejection or being "friendzoned," that I must not be a nice guy.

[Zhouran]

I remember having a crush on this girl.

On this years Valentines, she showed me this present, and said she wanted to show it to her boyfriend.

Well she has a boyfriend what do you expect? You ain't hitting that without some respectable game and guys with "crushes" ain't got game.

I didn't know she had a boyfriend?

[Lerodan Chinamerica]

Very good OP. I don't know why some people view 'nice guys' this way, but in my school, what frustrates me the most is not being taken seriously by some girls. I can make a serious statement but because I occasionally like to crack a few jokes in class I'm labelled as 'cute' or 'funny' as if I'm a child :L

[Central Slavia]

Very good OP. I don't know why some people view 'nice guys' this way, but in my school, what frustrates me the most is not being taken seriously by some girls. I can make a serious statement but because I occasionally like to crack a few jokes in class I'm labelled as 'cute' or 'funny' as if I'm a child :L

Wait, being a funny guy is bad now?
Seriously though, if you are forcedly trying to appear srs and failing at it, then that's the thing which gets you not treated seriously. Think of a little dog in a tuxedo.

[Xsyne]

Very good OP. I don't know why some people view 'nice guys' this way, but in my school, what frustrates me the most is not being taken seriously by some girls. I can make a serious statement but because I occasionally like to crack a few jokes in class I'm labelled as 'cute' or 'funny' as if I'm a child :L

Wait, being a funny guy is bad now?

No. IIRC, a sense of humor consistently polls as the most attractive quality in a man.

[Ostroeuropa]

By the way, "nice guys" should be aware of the waiter rule.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waiter_Rule
It's not enough to be a "Nice guy." to the person you are courting.
It comes off as creepy, especially if you flunk the waiter test.

[Greed and Death]

By the way, "nice guys" should be aware of the waiter rule.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waiter_Rule
It's not enough to be a "Nice guy." to the person you are courting.
It comes off as creepy, especially if you flunk the waiter test.

It is why when I waited tables I loved when couples were going on a date. They might linger but they leave a nice tip.

[Lost heros]

I hate to break it to you, but the "Nice Guy" doesn't exist.

[Quintium]

No. IIRC, a sense of humor consistently polls as the most attractive quality in a man.

Oh? I recall a bit of research into that - people were polled about their theoretical preferences, and then put in actual situations where they had to choose the most attractive alternative. Men and women both listed sense of humour, a nice personality and all of those 'socially acceptable' factors as their preferences, but it turned out that the most decisive factor in men was status and the most decisive factor in women was physical attractiveness. You can google it if you want - it should be around still, though I haven't read it in months.

[Aequalitia]

I hate to break it to you, but the "Nice Guy" doesn't exist.

There exist, I can promise that. But to find the real one is not easy as some say.

[Wamitoria]

No. IIRC, a sense of humor consistently polls as the most attractive quality in a man.

Oh? I recall a bit of research into that - people were polled about their theoretical preferences, and then put in actual situations where they had to choose the most attractive alternative. Men and women both listed sense of humour, a nice personality and all of those 'socially acceptable' factors as their preferences, but it turned out that the most decisive factor in men was status and the most decisive factor in women was physical attractiveness. You can google it if you want - it should be around still, though I haven't read it in months.

That would make much more sense.

[Lost heros]

I hate to break it to you, but the "Nice Guy" doesn't exist.

There exist, I can promise that. But to find the real one is not easy as some say.

If they existed, they wouldn't complain about being in the friendzone.

[Dovahlan]

There exist, I can promise that. But to find the real one is not easy as some say.

If they existed, they wouldn't complain about being in the friendzone.

I don't complain about it, I just accept it and talk to other girls.

[Lost heros]

If they existed, they wouldn't complain about being in the friendzone.

I don't complain about it, I just accept it and talk to other girls.

But you acknowledge that it exists, and you are in it. And that it prevents you from dating certain girls.

[Dovahlan]

I don't complain about it, I just accept it and talk to other girls.

But you acknowledge that it exists, and you are in it. And that it prevents you from dating certain girls.

Eh, they see me as nothing more than a friend, I cannot help that, nor do I really care.

[Lost heros]

But you acknowledge that it exists, and you are in it. And that it prevents you from dating certain girls.

Eh, they see me as nothing more than a friend, I cannot help that, nor do I really care.

Because you are a nice guy?

[Dovahlan]

Eh, they see me as nothing more than a friend, I cannot help that, nor do I really care.

Because you are a nice guy?

Idk, could be why I'm a friend. I like to consider myself a decent person. But I really don't care what people think about me. I mean, if someone outright doesn't like me as a person my curiosity is aroused, but still.

[Choronzon]

Very good OP. I don't know why some people view 'nice guys' this way, but in my school, what frustrates me the most is not being taken seriously by some girls. I can make a serious statement but because I occasionally like to crack a few jokes in class I'm labelled as 'cute' or 'funny' as if I'm a child :L

Huh. Strange. I tended to have sex with the girls who thought I was cute and funny.

Times change I guess.

[The Serbian Empire]

By the way, "nice guys" should be aware of the waiter rule.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waiter_Rule
It's not enough to be a "Nice guy." to the person you are courting.
It comes off as creepy, especially if you flunk the waiter test.

Well, that explains it then.