The "Nice Guy" and the friendzone, Society's attitude

[Flaxxony-Setram]

Im glad you came out of the woodwork to come fill my mouth with words I never said nor insinuated

Oh really? Then why'd you go shit on the idea of someone being a feminist if you think that women are equals who should be treated as such?

I challenge you to quote me saying an insulting thing about feminists.

Plus just because im not gloria steinem doesnt mean I'm mysoginistic

[Dakini]

...except not.

Or did you miss my "I wouldn't fuck a non-feminist because they're likely terrible in bed" comments?

I did. Very hypocritical.

Except not.

Failure is yours.

[Dakini]

Oh really? Then why'd you go shit on the idea of someone being a feminist if you think that women are equals who should be treated as such?

I challenge you to quote me saying an insulting thing about feminists.

Plus just because im not gloria steinem doesnt mean I'm mysoginistic

You know what feminism means, right?

[Dictatorship Of Serdaristan]

You know he does have a point, not in the "women are only good for sex" aspect but more in the sense of male friends are generally more fun to hang out with.
The problem with feminism, at least in most of NS's sense of the word is you seem to assume that men and women are exactly the same with no difference at all, and to say otherwise is a misogynistic hate crime.

Oh, no there are differences.

Usually men have penises, but no boobs and usually women have vaginas (and boobs).

I have mostly male friends and about 4 female friends, and the dynamics of our friendships are vastly different. Here are some examples

Male friends: "hey I just got new mud tires, lets go out to the pit and go mudding" - See, this is something I enjoy, Most of my male friends share 95% of my interests

The interests of you and your male friends would have my male friends snoring.

Female friends: "hey, come to the mall with me and anon, it'll be fun" (this really means wander around a store aimlessly while holding my purse and looking for a suitable belt to hang yourself with)

...then don't go to the mall with your friends.

I only have one female friend that shares more than 50% of my interests

Oh what, so now women are individuals who have different interests?

Before you say something like "oh, your just hanging out with the wrong girls" just quit while your ahead, and realize that men and women are different and like fundamentally different things.

Except your one friend who likes most of the stuff that you like.

Thats not to say that women cant like what I like, but more of "men like what I like almost all the time so why not make it easier and hang out with them"

Why not hang out with people regardless of their gender?

My friend group is probably about 50/50 but I'm a woman. I'm also a scientist who drinks beer. My friends are scientists who drink beer (except the ones that prefer wine). We have tons of shit in common. I might have slightly more in common with my male friends than my female friends, but meh.

Not talking about physical differences here.

We are obviously from different places and were raised differently, you probably live in a city, are a liberal and are progressive, as are your friends. I'm from a small town, I'm a
conservative, and a redneck. I like trucks, guns, explosions, beer, whiskey, bonfires etc. I'd rather die than live in a city.

I usually dont go to the mall with my friends, but when I do it always turns out the same.

Obviously women are individuals, you of all people should know that. they just tend to be on one side of the spectrum where men are on the other.

Notice how it is only one friend who is both A. female, and B. likes what I like

You dont have to be so black and white, I do hang out with people regardless of gender, and based on interest. most people who share my interests are male

[Forster Keys]

What's wrong with a good old wank every now and then?

Nothing as long as it doesn't involve butthurt over your fantasy fucking someone else.

Butthurt is something that should be reduced generally. Agreed.

[Norstal]

I challenge you to quote me saying an insulting thing about feminists.

Plus just because im not gloria steinem doesnt mean I'm mysoginistic

You know what feminism means, right?

It's the movement wherein all humans must have a vagina.

Or actually, you know, be upfront instead of lusting and envying and then masturbating.

But isnt that dehumanizing to women according to you guys? To want their body is a terrible thing for yall

To OBJECTIFY is a bad thing. To want to have sex != objectify. If you turn women into objects instead of humans, then that's bad.

[United Meritocratic Athiest Democracy]

But isnt that dehumanizing to women according to you guys? To want their body is a terrible thing for yall

No. Wanting to have sex with a person is not the same as "wanting their body" or dehumanizing them. Treating a person like sex is the only thing they're good for or acting like you are entitled to have sex with a person for whatever reason is terrible. Wanting to enjoy some fun sexy times with them is not.

I, personally, would love to have sexy-fun-times with Kerli (look her up). However, I recognize that she exists as a person. A person with hopes, aspirations, struggles, issues, and a fetish for creepy imagery.

I, personally, would not feel guilty for spending some DNA-currency on a fantasy involving her. Her, as a whole being. Not her, as a meat-puppet.

That's how you manage to stay on the right side of the concept of human equality and bodily sovereignty. You recognize that the fantasy involves the person.

[Flaxxony-Setram]

But isnt that dehumanizing to women according to you guys? To want their body is a terrible thing for yall

No. Wanting to have sex with a person is not the same as "wanting their body" or dehumanizing them. Treating a person like sex is the only thing they're good for or acting like you are entitled to have sex with a person for whatever reason is terrible. Wanting to enjoy some fun sexy times with them is not.

Listen at the end of the day, you fuck a pussy. Im not going to be like "oh yeah baby, your extensive vocabulary and med school scores get me soooo hard ugh yeah" in bed, k?

I dont care what you say; I shouldnt be a bad person for admitting that no matter how great a girls personality is, if she looks like a fat rhinocerous, I simply cannot get hard. Cant do it

[Forster Keys]

Rage-fapping doesn't sound all too enjoyable. Point taken.

It's all in the delivery.

It's much like pizza in that regard.

[United Meritocratic Athiest Democracy]

No. Wanting to have sex with a person is not the same as "wanting their body" or dehumanizing them. Treating a person like sex is the only thing they're good for or acting like you are entitled to have sex with a person for whatever reason is terrible. Wanting to enjoy some fun sexy times with them is not.

Listen at the end of the day, you fuck a pussy. Im not going to be like "oh yeah baby, your extensive vocabulary and med school scores get me soooo hard ugh yeah" in bed, k?

I dont care what you say; I shouldnt be a bad person for admitting that no matter how great a girls personality is, if she looks like a fat rhinkcerous, I simply cannot get hard. Cant do it

...I disagree. If some girl can sit there and express the rational solution of Graham's Number in a sexy voice? I'm likely going to end up a shuddering mess between her legs after an hour or so.

[Norstal]

No. Wanting to have sex with a person is not the same as "wanting their body" or dehumanizing them. Treating a person like sex is the only thing they're good for or acting like you are entitled to have sex with a person for whatever reason is terrible. Wanting to enjoy some fun sexy times with them is not.

Listen at the end of the day, you fuck a pussy. Im not going to be like "oh yeah baby, your extensive vocabulary and med school scores get me soooo hard ugh yeah" in bed, k?

I dont care what you say; I shouldnt be a bad person for admitting that no matter how great a girls personality is, if she looks like a fat rhinkcerous, I simply cannot get hard. Cant do it

Holy Christ.

[Forster Keys]

No. Wanting to have sex with a person is not the same as "wanting their body" or dehumanizing them. Treating a person like sex is the only thing they're good for or acting like you are entitled to have sex with a person for whatever reason is terrible. Wanting to enjoy some fun sexy times with them is not.

Listen at the end of the day, you fuck a pussy. Im not going to be like "oh yeah baby, your extensive vocabulary and med school scores get me soooo hard ugh yeah" in bed, k?

I dont care what you say; I shouldnt be a bad person for admitting that no matter how great a girls personality is, if she looks like a fat rhinkcerous, I simply cannot get hard. Cant do it

Why not just invest in a sex doll then? It'd eliminate a lot of hassle.

[Dictatorship Of Serdaristan]

My post had nothing to do with sex, whether they are different due to sex or the way they were raised does not matter but the fact they are different does.
Fine, they are raised to like different things.
My point still stands, men and women like different things. who cares if its a social construct or women evolving to be more concerned with raising children and men evolving to be more concerned with obtaining food and shelter.

I don't think you understand how evolution works.

And not all women are raised to like something one way. In fact, I don't think you really bother to get to know a variety of women.

So in the times of Neanderthals bashing eachother over the head with clubs it was the men who gave birth and nursed babies?

[Flaxxony-Setram]

Listen at the end of the day, you fuck a pussy. Im not going to be like "oh yeah baby, your extensive vocabulary and med school scores get me soooo hard ugh yeah" in bed, k?

I dont care what you say; I shouldnt be a bad person for admitting that no matter how great a girls personality is, if she looks like a fat rhinkcerous, I simply cannot get hard. Cant do it

Why not just invest in a sex doll then? It'd eliminate a lot of hassle.

Or just go after hot women like I normally do and it is a lot more awesome

[United Meritocratic Athiest Democracy]

Listen at the end of the day, you fuck a pussy. Im not going to be like "oh yeah baby, your extensive vocabulary and med school scores get me soooo hard ugh yeah" in bed, k?

I dont care what you say; I shouldnt be a bad person for admitting that no matter how great a girls personality is, if she looks like a fat rhinkcerous, I simply cannot get hard. Cant do it

Why not just invest in a sex doll then? It'd eliminate a lot of hassle.

Have you seen how much cleaning those things need? Then there's the non-self-repairing tears due to misuse and over-expression of violent fantasizing. There's also the non-zero possibility of it gaining sentience and beating you over the head and shoulders with a cricket bat because of your Hello Kitty fetish.

Human > Sex Doll. Gotta be true.

[Flaxxony-Setram]

Listen at the end of the day, you fuck a pussy. Im not going to be like "oh yeah baby, your extensive vocabulary and med school scores get me soooo hard ugh yeah" in bed, k?

I dont care what you say; I shouldnt be a bad person for admitting that no matter how great a girls personality is, if she looks like a fat rhinkcerous, I simply cannot get hard. Cant do it

...I disagree. If some girl can sit there and express the rational solution of Graham's Number in a sexy voice? I'm likely going to end up a shuddering mess between her legs after an hour or so.

If it takes you an hour to get off, the sex really isnt that good

[The Parkus Empire]

I don't think you understand how evolution works.

And not all women are raised to like something one way. In fact, I don't think you really bother to get to know a variety of women.

So in the times of Neanderthals bashing eachother over the head with clubs it was the men who gave birth and nursed babies?

No, because they were too busy checking them new tires while the women were at the mall.

Reproduction involves both sexes. It can't affect sex in an evolutionary way like you're assuming unless men and women could reproduce on their own.

[United Meritocratic Athiest Democracy]

...I disagree. If some girl can sit there and express the rational solution of Graham's Number in a sexy voice? I'm likely going to end up a shuddering mess between her legs after an hour or so.

If it takes you an hour to get off, the sex really isnt that good

If you can't hold it together for an hour to create mutually-satisfying sex, you're missing out.

[The Parkus Empire]

...I disagree. If some girl can sit there and express the rational solution of Graham's Number in a sexy voice? I'm likely going to end up a shuddering mess between her legs after an hour or so.

If it takes you an hour to get off, the sex really isnt that good

Uh, not true.

[Dakini]

No. Wanting to have sex with a person is not the same as "wanting their body" or dehumanizing them. Treating a person like sex is the only thing they're good for or acting like you are entitled to have sex with a person for whatever reason is terrible. Wanting to enjoy some fun sexy times with them is not.

Listen at the end of the day, you fuck a pussy. Im not going to be like "oh yeah baby, your extensive vocabulary and med school scores get me soooo hard ugh yeah" in bed, k?

No, you fuck a person unless you've got a fleshlight for a partner. And if you're both any good at it, the other person will fuck back and you'll both enjoy yourselves. What you described is only you enjoying yourself.

And no, personality matters... even in bed.

I dont care what you say; I shouldnt be a bad person for admitting that no matter how great a girls personality is, if she looks like a fat rhinocerous, I simply cannot get hard. Cant do it

I didn't say you were a bad person for being shallow. I said you were a bad person for thinking that women aren't equals.

Defensive much?

[Forster Keys]

Why not just invest in a sex doll then? It'd eliminate a lot of hassle.

Or just go after hot women like I normally do and it is a lot more awesome

Sorry, I didn't know I was dealing with a certified player here. Step back!

[Flaxxony-Setram]

If it takes you an hour to get off, the sex really isnt that good

If you can't hold it together for an hour to create mutually-satisfying sex, you're missing out.

Fucking nonstop for an hour can destroy a vulva dude. Bad. As in damaged

[Norstal]

...I disagree. If some girl can sit there and express the rational solution of Graham's Number in a sexy voice? I'm likely going to end up a shuddering mess between her legs after an hour or so.

If it takes you an hour to get off, the sex really isnt that good

Oh my god. This is hilarious.

Do you even sex bro?

[The Parkus Empire]

Why not just invest in a sex doll then? It'd eliminate a lot of hassle.

Or just go after hot women like I normally do and it is a lot more awesome

Are you interested in a long term relationship?

[Dictatorship Of Serdaristan]

Why not just invest in a sex doll then? It'd eliminate a lot of hassle.

Or just go after hot women like I normally do and it is a lot more awesome

U trollin m8?

But yeah, If were only talking about sex, and I mean only, I would pick the attractive woman regardless of her personality compared to an unattractive woman with a good personality.