What do you think of same-sex church wedding ceremonies?

[Belligerent Alcoholics]

De jure, it's supposed to be. De facto, on the other hand... Not so much.

So then it's a fantasy when religious laws are challenged and overturned?

They occasionally get it right.

[Lemonius]

A church is a building, sometimes they can be very pretty looking.
If two individuals wish to be married in said pretty looking building, so be it.

[Zottistan]

If a priest is willing to marry gay couples, sure. He shouldn't be forced to.

Well, the US government doesn't practice secularism, so...

Sorry, but the US is a secular state.

If only.

[The Steel Magnolia]

If a priest is willing to marry gay couples, sure. He shouldn't be forced to.

Sorry, but the US is a secular state.

If only.

Yeah, yeah it actually is.

If you want I can drag out my SCOTUS citations but christ I don't want to read through Gitlow and Everson again.

[The Steel Magnolia]

Sorry, but the US is a secular state.

De jure, it's supposed to be. De facto, on the other hand... Not so much.

Methinks you're not quite on the up and up as to what de facto means.

[Australasia]

If a priest is willing to marry gay couples, sure. He shouldn't be forced to.

Sorry, but the US is a secular state.

If only.

Technically speaking at least, it is.

[Coccygia]

WHOOOO CARES?

[Shaggai]

WHOOOO CARES?

You gravedug this just to say that? Seriously?

[Benuty]

"Behold I saw a pale horse with a cloaked rider and his name was Death...and zombies followed with him".

[Baader-Meinhof Gruppe]

Churches shouldn't be allowed to do weddings of any sort, so obviously I'm opposed.

[The Grey Wolf]

WHOOOO CARES?

Maybe you didn't notice, but this thread has been dead since August last year.

Necromancer.

[Benuty]

Churches shouldn't be allowed to do weddings of any sort, so obviously I'm opposed.

Then neither should courts and while we are at it abolish state recognition of marriage altogether (including every benefit for married couples).

[Baader-Meinhof Gruppe]

Churches shouldn't be allowed to do weddings of any sort, so obviously I'm opposed.

Then neither should courts and while we are at it abolish state recognition of marriage altogether (including every benefit for married couples).

Technically marriage was started by governments, but yeah we should abolish recognition of marriage altogether as it currently leads to people marrying for the wrong reasons.

[Imperializt Russia]

Then neither should courts and while we are at it abolish state recognition of marriage altogether (including every benefit for married couples).

Technically marriage was started by governments, but yeah we should abolish recognition of marriage altogether as it currently leads to people marrying for the wrong reasons.

Doing so would mean that many vital benefits of marriage would go unrecognised.

[Benuty]

Technically marriage was started by governments, but yeah we should abolish recognition of marriage altogether as it currently leads to people marrying for the wrong reasons.

Doing so would mean that many vital benefits of marriage would go unrecognised.

Anything is worth risking to troll Oklahoma.

[Blakk Metal]

Then neither should courts and while we are at it abolish state recognition of marriage altogether (including every benefit for married couples).

Technically marriage was started by governments,

Marriage was not started by any government.

[Imperializt Russia]

Technically marriage was started by governments,

Marriage was not started by any government.

It predates mainstream religion, I assume was his point.

[Baader-Meinhof Gruppe]

Technically marriage was started by governments,

Marriage was not started by any government.

It predates religion, but you don't see marriage before the beginning of city-states. Evidence is against you.

[Thafoo]

WHOOOO CARES?

George Romero is gleefully dancing right now, for you have to pay him royalties for reanimating the dead.

[Tekania]

WHOOOO CARES?

You apparently care, as you found it necessary to pull a 6 month old dead rotten post out of the grave and parade it around.

[Bubblekirby]

So should we revive this threads discussion or just let it die? Because if we don't get back on topic soon the thread will be locked.

[Blakk Metal]

Technically marriage was started by governments, but yeah we should abolish recognition of marriage altogether as it currently leads to people marrying for the wrong reasons.

Doing so would mean that many vital benefits of marriage would go unrecognised.

Most of those benefits are bullshit.

[The Black Forrest]

Doing so would mean that many vital benefits of marriage would go unrecognised.

Most of those benefits are bullshit.

Ahh recently divorced?

[Imperializt Russia]

Doing so would mean that many vital benefits of marriage would go unrecognised.

Most of those benefits are bullshit.

Medical visitation rights? Property ownership rights? Joint assets rights? Rights as immediate kin?
Other shit I can't even be arsed to remember? The stuff that is presently denied in many places to same-sex couples but not to heterosexual couples?

[Grenartia]

Doing so would mean that many vital benefits of marriage would go unrecognised.

Most of those benefits are bullshit.

How is hospital visitation being guaranteed bullshit? How is the ability to make medical decisions bullshit? How is funeral planning bullshit? How is estate transfer bullshit?