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Postby Mkuki » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:15 pm

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Hey liri, quick question.

Where'd you get the pic for your flag? Cuz I kinda sorta really love it for some reason...

I don't think I can tell you the name of the artist on this forum, since the pic itself was originally R-rated. :unsure:

Basically: it's an erotic yaoi pic from a furry site, depicting a sexy red skunk of a trap in a very compromising position, with knee-high white silk socks and arm-long white silk gloves. :blush:

It at least could have been yuri. :?
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Postby Blasveck » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:15 pm

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What the fuck is funny? The UDHR says that any nation who signs it must not discriminate based on sexual orientation. And the US fucking signed it. I know it isn't a legal document, but the US not keeping its word says a lot about it.

Where exactly does it say that, sorry for my ignorance. :eyebrow:


Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

I think this is it.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:15 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:Universal Declaration of Human Rights?


Yes.

Merely parroting it back is not an argument - do you actually have a real argument to make?
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Postby Qahadim » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:15 pm

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Universal Declaration of Human Rights? :rofl:


What the fuck is funny? The UDHR says that any nation who signs it must not discriminate based on sexual orientation. And the US fucking signed it. I know it isn't a legal document, but the US not keeping its word says a lot about it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the UDHR a treaty? That would make it legally binding.

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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:15 pm

Blasveck wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Where exactly does it say that, sorry for my ignorance. :eyebrow:


Give me a minute Vaz, I will have your quote

Got it already, I have the UDHR bookmarked. :D

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Postby Vazdania » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:15 pm

Lithosano wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Where exactly does it say that, sorry for my ignorance. :eyebrow:


It's not outright stated, but it's sure as hell implied. You could also make a "Sexual Orientation" case under Section 2's "birth or other status," qualifier.

Other status is ambiguous......ambiguity is in my opinion is a catch all that really shouldn't be used in law.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:16 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
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What the fuck is funny? The UDHR says that any nation who signs it must not discriminate based on sexual orientation. And the US fucking signed it. I know it isn't a legal document, but the US not keeping its word says a lot about it.


What is funny is, why someone would make such a document. How the people who wrote this document without adding any satire, or laughing themselves to death is puzzling. So again for the last time bid you all a good night.

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Postby Liriena » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:16 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Where exactly does it say that, sorry for my ignorance. :eyebrow:

Article 16.

(1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
(2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
(3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.
http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml#a16

You can also add the UN's declarations on LGBT rights...
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:16 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
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What the fuck is funny? The UDHR says that any nation who signs it must not discriminate based on sexual orientation. And the US fucking signed it. I know it isn't a legal document, but the US not keeping its word says a lot about it.


What is funny is, why someone would make such a document. How the people who wrote this document without adding any satire, or laughing themselves to death is puzzling.


But fortunately, irrelevant.

'Rights' being social constructs, what matters is whether they are codified and recognised - not whether you think there's room for humour in the text.
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Postby Qahadim » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:17 pm

Mkuki wrote:
Liriena wrote:I don't think I can tell you the name of the artist on this forum, since the pic itself was originally R-rated. :unsure:

Basically: it's an erotic yaoi pic from a furry site, depicting a sexy red skunk of a trap in a very compromising position, with knee-high white silk socks and arm-long white silk gloves. :blush:

It at least could have been yuri. :?

Who cares? It's still hawt.

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Postby Mkuki » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:17 pm

Qahadim wrote:
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What the fuck is funny? The UDHR says that any nation who signs it must not discriminate based on sexual orientation. And the US fucking signed it. I know it isn't a legal document, but the US not keeping its word says a lot about it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the UDHR a treaty? That would make it legally binding.

I don't believe so. Either way the UDHR wasn't ratified by the Security Council, the only chamber that can pass legally binding laws/treaties/etc.
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Postby Blasveck » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:17 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
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What the fuck is funny? The UDHR says that any nation who signs it must not discriminate based on sexual orientation. And the US fucking signed it. I know it isn't a legal document, but the US not keeping its word says a lot about it.


What is funny is, why someone would make such a document. How the people who wrote this document without adding any satire, or laughing themselves to death is puzzling. So again for the last time bid you all a good night.


That's like saying the people who created the Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights should've added satire. Is that what you're saying?
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Postby Liriena » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:17 pm

Mkuki wrote:
Liriena wrote:I don't think I can tell you the name of the artist on this forum, since the pic itself was originally R-rated. :unsure:

Basically: it's an erotic yaoi pic from a furry site, depicting a sexy red skunk of a trap in a very compromising position, with knee-high white silk socks and arm-long white silk gloves. :blush:

It at least could have been yuri. :?

I don't fap to yuri, so no. :P
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Postby Liriena » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:18 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
What the fuck is funny? The UDHR says that any nation who signs it must not discriminate based on sexual orientation. And the US fucking signed it. I know it isn't a legal document, but the US not keeping its word says a lot about it.


What is funny is, why someone would make such a document. How the people who wrote this document without adding any satire, or laughing themselves to death is puzzling. So again for the last time bid you all a good night.

:rofl: Now that's just pathetic!

Good night! Hopefully you'll have grown some intellectual honesty by tomorrow!
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Postby Blasveck » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:18 pm

Liriena wrote:
Mkuki wrote:It at least could have been yuri. :?

I don't fap to yuri, so no. :P


Then why the pic?
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Postby Liriena » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:18 pm

Qahadim wrote:
Mkuki wrote:It at least could have been yuri. :?

Who cares? It's still hawt.

You... You get me. :blush:
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:19 pm

Qahadim wrote:
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What the fuck is funny? The UDHR says that any nation who signs it must not discriminate based on sexual orientation. And the US fucking signed it. I know it isn't a legal document, but the US not keeping its word says a lot about it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the UDHR a treaty? That would make it legally binding.

I'm afraid it's not actually a treaty. It's a 'declaration' of what the signatory countries will strike towards.
It is not an international treaty though I think it should be.
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Postby Mkuki » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:19 pm

Liriena wrote:
Mkuki wrote:It at least could have been yuri. :?

I don't fap to yuri, so no. :P

That's a shame. :p
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Postby Liriena » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:20 pm

Blasveck wrote:
Liriena wrote:I don't fap to yuri, so no. :P


Then why the pic?

I love the design of the character, and the pic itself, even edited into PG-13, makes me feel warm and cozy in my chest...in a very sensual way.
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Postby Blasveck » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:21 pm

Liriena wrote:
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Then why the pic?

I love the design of the character, and the pic itself, even edited into PG-13, makes me feel warm and cozy in my chest...in a very sensual way.


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Postby Mkuki » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:21 pm

Blasveck wrote:
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What is funny is, why someone would make such a document. How the people who wrote this document without adding any satire, or laughing themselves to death is puzzling. So again for the last time bid you all a good night.


That's like saying the people who created the Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights should've added satire. Is that what you're saying?

Umm...the Bill of Rights is legally binding. The Declaration of Independence? Not so much.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:22 pm

Mkuki wrote:
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That's like saying the people who created the Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights should've added satire. Is that what you're saying?

Umm...the Bill of Rights is legally binding. The Declaration of Independence? Not so much.

An apt comparison.

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Postby Qahadim » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:22 pm

Liriena wrote:
Qahadim wrote:Who cares? It's still hawt.

You... You get me. :blush:

:hug: Yay mutual understanding!

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Postby Liriena » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:22 pm

Blasveck wrote:
Liriena wrote:I love the design of the character, and the pic itself, even edited into PG-13, makes me feel warm and cozy in my chest...in a very sensual way.


I get ya

Besides, the whole style of the character is a tiny bit how I see my "ideal" self. :blush:
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Postby Blasveck » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:22 pm

Mkuki wrote:
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That's like saying the people who created the Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights should've added satire. Is that what you're saying?

Umm...the Bill of Rights is legally binding. The Declaration of Independence? Not so much.


I know the Bill of Rights is. But simply discarding the Declaration as if it means nothing is kinda silly. Same with the UDHR.
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