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Postby Liriena » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:03 pm

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Then again I live on the border of Gerogia and Alabama.

I've been suddenly kissed on the lips by a boy when I was younger.......I am not proud of how I reacted.

What'd you do? Whack him with a white glove?[/quote]
.....I tried to strangle him. I put my hands on his neck and squeezed.
And he was my friend....12, perhaps 13 years old and I tried to strangle one of my best friends....in all honesty there are few things I am ashamed of more.[/quote]
You were a kid on the verge of puberty. At that age, even good kids can do horrible things.
I for one would gladly forgive you, since you've turned out to be a great person. :hug:

Did you two ever get to sort things out?
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Postby Liriena » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:04 pm

Menassa wrote:
Liriena wrote:D'aww, me neither. :hug:
Hopefully that will change. I'm really looking forward to my first kiss with a guy. :blush:

Wait a minute.......

You're not a woman?

Wow...I really am one of the greatest traps in NS...and I'm not even trying. :unsure:
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Postby Vazdania » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:05 pm

Liriena wrote:
Menassa wrote:Wait a minute.......

You're not a woman?

Wow...I really am one of the greatest traps in NS...and I'm not even trying. :unsure:

Your sig explains all.
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Postby Choronzon » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:05 pm

"Look, I wouldn't have a problem with gay people if they weren't so gay." - All the homophobes in this thread.

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Postby Blasveck » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:05 pm

Liriena wrote:
Menassa wrote:Wait a minute.......

You're not a woman?

Wow...I really am one of the greatest traps in NS...and I'm not even trying. :unsure:


Hey liri, quick question.

Where'd you get the pic for your flag? Cuz I kinda sorta really love it for some reason...
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:06 pm

Liriena wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I've been suddenly kissed on the lips by a boy when I was younger.......I am not proud of how I reacted.

What'd you do? Whack him with a white glove?

.....I tried to strangle him. I put my hands on his neck and squeezed.
And he was my friend....12, perhaps 13 years old and I tried to strangle one of my best friends....in all honesty there are few things I am ashamed of more.[/quote]
You were a kid on the verge of puberty. At that age, even good kids can do horrible things.
I for one would gladly forgive you, since you've turned out to be a great person. :hug:

Did you two ever get to sort things out?[/quote]
I'm afraid I don't recall. I do know that eventually we stopped being friends, there is likely a connection.

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Postby Anachronous Rex » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:06 pm

Liriena wrote:
Menassa wrote:Wait a minute.......

You're not a woman?

Wow...I really am one of the greatest traps in NS...and I'm not even trying. :unsure:

It must be the avatar. I can't think of any other reason people would be confused.
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:06 pm

Blasveck wrote:
Liriena wrote:Wow...I really am one of the greatest traps in NS...and I'm not even trying. :unsure:


Hey liri, quick question.

Where'd you get the pic for your flag. Cuz I kinda sorta really love it for some reason...

I've seen it on /d/ a few times.

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:07 pm

Choronzon wrote:"Look, I wouldn't have a problem with gay people if they weren't so gay." - All the homophobes in this thread.


We even had a variant on 'bums against the walls, lads'... which was mildly entertaining in that I haven't actually heard that one used since high-school.
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Postby Menassa » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:07 pm

Liriena wrote:
Menassa wrote:Wait a minute.......

You're not a woman?

Wow...I really am one of the greatest traps in NS...and I'm not even trying. :unsure:

I think that's it then. :p
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Postby The Misotheist Reich » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:08 pm

Liriena wrote:
The Misotheist Reich wrote:
1.) No they do not have the right.
2.) What are we going to legalize marrying your horse.
3.) But the again according to you people, we would have to tolerate people maryying horses.
4.) I mean once you let one in, you got to let the other in.
5.) I mean come what happened to moral value.
6.) I myself am a theist misotheist, but I still have strong morals.
7.) This is unacceptable.
8.) The only people who want the gays to get married is the gays them selves.
9.) Well guess literally a majority of places wont let you marry.

1.) Universal Declaration of Human Rights says: BULLSHIT!
2.) Sorry, Mr. Closet Zoophile, but your horse is not a person. It can't provide legally valid consent to marriage and human rights do not apply to it.
3.) Well, fuck your stupid little strawman very much!
4.) Lying is a sin, so stop fucking lying your ass off!
5.) Moral values still exist. They have only been adapted to reason and reality.
6.) I'm a pantheist, and I have strong morals as well. Mine, however, do not discriminate LGBT people on absurd pseudo-naturalistic bullshit.
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9.) Fortunately, that is changing.


Universal Declaration of Human Rights? :rofl:
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:09 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Liriena wrote:1.) Universal Declaration of Human Rights says: BULLSHIT!
2.) Sorry, Mr. Closet Zoophile, but your horse is not a person. It can't provide legally valid consent to marriage and human rights do not apply to it.
3.) Well, fuck your stupid little strawman very much!
4.) Lying is a sin, so stop fucking lying your ass off!
5.) Moral values still exist. They have only been adapted to reason and reality.
6.) I'm a pantheist, and I have strong morals as well. Mine, however, do not discriminate LGBT people on absurd pseudo-naturalistic bullshit.
7.) I disagree.
8.) You are either a horrible liar, or you live in one hell of a bubble. Look at reality for a change.
9.) Fortunately, that is changing.


Universal Declaration of Human Rights? :rofl:

Yeah you know that thing that the United States signed. And I thought you were leaving.

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Postby Liriena » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:09 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Liriena wrote:Wow...I really am one of the greatest traps in NS...and I'm not even trying. :unsure:

Your sig explains all.

My sig is the product of almost three years of hard work... but it could use a reference to all that confusion regarding my gender. :p

Anachronous Rex wrote:
Liriena wrote:Wow...I really am one of the greatest traps in NS...and I'm not even trying. :unsure:

It must be the avatar. I can't think of any other reason people would be confused.

Damn my sexy furry trap of an avatar!

Genivaria wrote:I'm afraid I don't recall. I do know that eventually we stopped being friends, there is likely a connection.

Well, we all do things we regret. I for one regret wasting my teenage years, doing none of the things I really wished and wallowing in sexual self-loathing. I also often wonder what my life would have been like if I hadn't been forced out of the Catholic school I went to for most of my childhood. It was a reactionary shithole, but I had lots of good friends there.
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:09 pm

Qahadim wrote:
The Misotheist Reich wrote:
No they do not have the right. What are we going to legalize marrying your horse. But the again according to you people, we would have to tolerate people maryying horses. I mean once you let one in, you got to let the other in. I mean come what happened to moral value. I myself am a theist misotheist, but I still have strong morals. This is unacceptable. The only people who want the gays to get married is the gays them selves. Well guess literally a majority of places wont let you marry.

I never said right. I said privilege. I, personally, don't find marriage a right for any person. Straight, gay, black, white or otherwise. With that said, living in the US the fourteenth amendment backs up my belief regardless.

Do you understand what consent means? If you do, can a horse give it? No, so stop with that ridiculously moronic straw man.

I'm not gay. I'm a very comfortable heterosexual who has zero problem with homosexuals, or others of the community. Not with marriage, or otherwise. I can make out with members of my sex, don't even get so much as a boner, without feeling dirty in any way.

Lastly your religion is not my religion. That whole concept of don't force yourself on others thing. You're doing it. Stop forcing yourself on me.


You mean there are people who different beliefs on what is moral and what god said. :o
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Postby Blasveck » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:10 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Liriena wrote:1.) Universal Declaration of Human Rights says: BULLSHIT!
2.) Sorry, Mr. Closet Zoophile, but your horse is not a person. It can't provide legally valid consent to marriage and human rights do not apply to it.
3.) Well, fuck your stupid little strawman very much!
4.) Lying is a sin, so stop fucking lying your ass off!
5.) Moral values still exist. They have only been adapted to reason and reality.
6.) I'm a pantheist, and I have strong morals as well. Mine, however, do not discriminate LGBT people on absurd pseudo-naturalistic bullshit.
7.) I disagree.
8.) You are either a horrible liar, or you live in one hell of a bubble. Look at reality for a change.
9.) Fortunately, that is changing.


Universal Declaration of Human Rights? :rofl:


What the fuck is funny? The UDHR says that any nation who signs it must not discriminate based on sexual orientation. And the US fucking signed it. I know it isn't a legal document, but the US not keeping its word says a lot about it.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:11 pm

Blasveck wrote:
Liriena wrote:Wow...I really am one of the greatest traps in NS...and I'm not even trying. :unsure:


Hey liri, quick question.

Where'd you get the pic for your flag? Cuz I kinda sorta really love it for some reason...

I don't think I can tell you the name of the artist on this forum, since the pic itself was originally R-rated. :unsure:

Basically: it's an erotic yaoi pic from a furry site, depicting a sexy red skunk of a trap in a very compromising position, with knee-high white silk socks and arm-long white silk gloves. :blush:
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Postby Vazdania » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:11 pm

Blasveck wrote:
The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Universal Declaration of Human Rights? :rofl:


What the fuck is funny? The UDHR says that any nation who signs it must not discriminate based on sexual orientation. And the US fucking signed it. I know it isn't a legal document, but the US not keeping its word says a lot about it.

Where exactly does it say that, sorry for my ignorance. :eyebrow:
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Postby Qahadim » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:12 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Qahadim wrote:I never said right. I said privilege. I, personally, don't find marriage a right for any person. Straight, gay, black, white or otherwise. With that said, living in the US the fourteenth amendment backs up my belief regardless.

Do you understand what consent means? If you do, can a horse give it? No, so stop with that ridiculously moronic straw man.

I'm not gay. I'm a very comfortable heterosexual who has zero problem with homosexuals, or others of the community. Not with marriage, or otherwise. I can make out with members of my sex, don't even get so much as a boner, without feeling dirty in any way.

Lastly your religion is not my religion. That whole concept of don't force yourself on others thing. You're doing it. Stop forcing yourself on me.


You mean there are people who different beliefs on what is moral and what god said. :o

I know. What a fucking mind blowing concept.

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Postby Blasveck » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:12 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
What the fuck is funny? The UDHR says that any nation who signs it must not discriminate based on sexual orientation. And the US fucking signed it. I know it isn't a legal document, but the US not keeping its word says a lot about it.

Where exactly does it say that, sorry for my ignorance. :eyebrow:


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Postby Liriena » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:13 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Liriena wrote:1.) Universal Declaration of Human Rights says: BULLSHIT!
2.) Sorry, Mr. Closet Zoophile, but your horse is not a person. It can't provide legally valid consent to marriage and human rights do not apply to it.
3.) Well, fuck your stupid little strawman very much!
4.) Lying is a sin, so stop fucking lying your ass off!
5.) Moral values still exist. They have only been adapted to reason and reality.
6.) I'm a pantheist, and I have strong morals as well. Mine, however, do not discriminate LGBT people on absurd pseudo-naturalistic bullshit.
7.) I disagree.
8.) You are either a horrible liar, or you live in one hell of a bubble. Look at reality for a change.
9.) Fortunately, that is changing.


Universal Declaration of Human Rights? :rofl:

Yes, the UDHR: a groundbreaking piece of international law that is legally binding in practically all of the Western nations and many Eastern nations. So, do yourself a favor and show some respect.
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Postby Blasveck » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:13 pm

Liriena wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
Hey liri, quick question.

Where'd you get the pic for your flag? Cuz I kinda sorta really love it for some reason...

I don't think I can tell you the name of the artist on this forum, since the pic itself was originally R-rated. :unsure:

Basically: it's an erotic yaoi pic from a furry site, depicting a sexy red skunk of a trap in a very compromising position, with knee-high white silk socks and arm-long white silk gloves. :blush:


Oooookay. Not my thing.
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Postby Lithosano » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:14 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
What the fuck is funny? The UDHR says that any nation who signs it must not discriminate based on sexual orientation. And the US fucking signed it. I know it isn't a legal document, but the US not keeping its word says a lot about it.

Where exactly does it say that, sorry for my ignorance. :eyebrow:


It's not outright stated, but it's sure as hell implied. You could also make a "Sexual Orientation" case under Section 2's "birth or other status," qualifier.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:14 pm

Blasveck wrote:
Liriena wrote:I don't think I can tell you the name of the artist on this forum, since the pic itself was originally R-rated. :unsure:

Basically: it's an erotic yaoi pic from a furry site, depicting a sexy red skunk of a trap in a very compromising position, with knee-high white silk socks and arm-long white silk gloves. :blush:


Oooookay. Not my thing.

Yeah...I'm not too proud of it. :p
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:14 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
What the fuck is funny? The UDHR says that any nation who signs it must not discriminate based on sexual orientation. And the US fucking signed it. I know it isn't a legal document, but the US not keeping its word says a lot about it.

Where exactly does it say that, sorry for my ignorance. :eyebrow:

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(1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
(2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
(3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.
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Postby The Misotheist Reich » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:15 pm

Blasveck wrote:
The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Universal Declaration of Human Rights? :rofl:


What the fuck is funny? The UDHR says that any nation who signs it must not discriminate based on sexual orientation. And the US fucking signed it. I know it isn't a legal document, but the US not keeping its word says a lot about it.


What is funny is, why someone would make such a document. How the people who wrote this document without adding any satire, or laughing themselves to death is puzzling. So again for the last time bid you all a good night.
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