Democracy vs. Fascism

[Frisivisia]

So a Democracy that enslaved 11 million people, denies women the vote, and only allowed white men to vote for hundreds of years is justified. Whats the difference between dening women, and minorities the vote for hundreds of years, and not letting any one vote at all?

The fact that some people got to vote, one can only assume. It's not right, but there is a very noticeable difference.

[New Libertarian States]

And Hitler also had slaves too y'know.
Fascist governments wouldn't give any rights to slaves.

At least democracies got around to it.

So because its the United States its justified for 187 years of oppression. But not 12 years. Whats the difference?

It wasn't the U.S's goal to kill the "unwanted".

[Zathganastan]

So a Democracy that enslaved 11 million people, denies women the vote, and only allowed white men to vote for hundreds of years is justified. Whats the difference between dening women, and minorities the vote for hundreds of years, and not letting any one vote at all?

No not justified, which is why we changed all that.Where as in fascist countries like Nazi Germany the best a minority or women could hope for was being allowed to continue their lives as slaves or breading stock respectively.

[The Misotheist Reich]

So a Democracy that enslaved 11 million people, denies women the vote, and only allowed white men to vote for hundreds of years is justified. Whats the difference between dening women, and minorities the vote for hundreds of years, and not letting any one vote at all?

The fact that some people got to vote, one can only assume. It's not right, but there is a very noticeable difference.

So letting just white men vote for hundreds of years is okay? Compared to Fascism that lets no one vote is better how?

[Luveria]

So a Democracy that enslaved 11 million people, denies women the vote, and only allowed white men to vote for hundreds of years is justified. Whats the difference between dening women, and minorities the vote for hundreds of years, and not letting any one vote at all?

You really can't understand the differences? I'll make this simple for you.

Some people were allowed to vote. Now everyone can vote.

In your fascist utopia, no one is allowed to vote. You really can't see the difference? How thick is your cognitive dissonance?

[New Libertarian States]

So a Democracy that enslaved 11 million people, denies women the vote, and only allowed white men to vote for hundreds of years is justified. Whats the difference between dening women, and minorities the vote for hundreds of years, and not letting any one vote at all?

Because we broke from highly conservative policies, and realized we are equal.
Now everyone had the right to vote.
It's obvious hitler and other regime's had no intention of giving minorities rights.

[Blasveck]

So a Democracy that enslaved 11 million people, denies women the vote, and only allowed white men to vote for hundreds of years is justified. Whats the difference between dening women, and minorities the vote for hundreds of years, and not letting any one vote at all?

1. Not hundreds of years.
2. And fascist government would do the exact same thing and oppress people.
The difference?

In a democracy, the people can change things.

Now, I know you're probably going to reply with "The Masses are mindless sheep!"

And you can believe whatever you want to, hon. You can ignore everyone's posts, and not provide a single source. You can do whatever you want.

What you cannot do is act as if you've won the argument, because without providing a source that the "Masses are stupid", you have no argument.

I think I'm done here.

[Luveria]

The fact that some people got to vote, one can only assume. It's not right, but there is a very noticeable difference.

So letting just white men vote for hundreds of years is okay? Compared to Fascism that lets no one vote is better how?

No one has said that's okay, if you've been paying any attention at all. I know you haven't because you ignore most posts directed at you so you can preserve your ignorance bubble.

PEOPLE VOTING.

PEOPLE NOT VOTING.

Is it so fucking difficult to see how one is worse than the other?

[Luveria]

So a Democracy that enslaved 11 million people, denies women the vote, and only allowed white men to vote for hundreds of years is justified. Whats the difference between dening women, and minorities the vote for hundreds of years, and not letting any one vote at all?

1. Not hundreds of years.
2. And fascist government would do the exact same thing and oppress people.
The difference?

In a democracy, the people can change things.

Now, I know you're probably going to reply with "The Masses are mindless sheep!"

And you can believe whatever you want to,hon. You can ignore everyone's posts, and not provide a single source. You can do whatever you want.

What you cannot do is act as if you've won the argument, because without providing a source that the "Masses are stupid", you have no argument.

I think I'm done here.

It's the typical teen fascist tactic. Annoy the fuck out of everyone by not providing any sources and constantly keep repeating "SHEEPLE SHEEPLE" until everyone leaves out of frustration. It's like dealing with a fascist Obamacult.

[Frisivisia]

1. Not hundreds of years.
2. And fascist government would do the exact same thing and oppress people.
The difference?

In a democracy, the people can change things.

Now, I know you're probably going to reply with "The Masses are mindless sheep!"

And you can believe whatever you want to,hon. You can ignore everyone's posts, and not provide a single source. You can do whatever you want.

What you cannot do is act as if you've won the argument, because without providing a source that the "Masses are stupid", you have no argument.

I think I'm done here.

It's the typical teen fascist tactic. Annoy the fuck out of everyone by not providing any sources and constantly keep repeating "SHEEPLE SHEEPLE" until everyone leaves out of frustration. It's like dealing with a fascist Obamacult.

No, Fascist Obamacult would provide so many sources that killing undesirables is okay and good for the economy that one wouldn't be able to address them all before he declares himself the victor. It's sort of like High School Debate all over again.

[Luveria]

It's the typical teen fascist tactic. Annoy the fuck out of everyone by not providing any sources and constantly keep repeating "SHEEPLE SHEEPLE" until everyone leaves out of frustration. It's like dealing with a fascist Obamacult.

No, Fascist Obamacult would provide so many sources that killing undesirables is okay and good for the economy that one wouldn't be able to address them all before he declares himself the victor. It's sort of like High School Debate all over again.

This seems like a high schooler version of a hypothetical Obamacult back in his juvenile fascist days before he learned how to spam useless sources.

[The Misotheist Reich]

Your defending a document drafted by slavers, for Representative democracy that counted its slave popoulation as three fifths of a person, denied women, native americans, and non white men the right to vote for hundreds of years is okay? 187 years of tyranny decries my answer. Under a Democracy, some of the worst infringments on human rights in history were made, but thats okay right?

[Jehuddah]

You think National Socialist Germany is bad? It lasted from 1933 to 1945. Compare that to 187 years of tyrany under a Democracy. 11 million slaves were brought from africa to the U.S. Compare that to your holocaust. Whats the difference? Plus women wre denied the ballot till the 1920s.

The Nazis murdered my ancestors...
Yes, they were bad... very....

[Frisivisia]

Your defending a document drafted by slavers, for Representative democracy that counted its slave popoulation as three fifths of a person, denied women, native americans, and non white men the right to vote for hundreds of years is okay? 187 years of tyranny decries my answer. Under a Democracy, some of the worst infringments on human rights in history were made, but thats okay right?

Well, it's not really democracy until everyone gets to vote.

[Luveria]

Your defending a document drafted by slavers, for Representative democracy that counted its slave popoulation as three fifths of a person, denied women, native americans, and non white men the right to vote for hundreds of years is okay? 187 years of tyranny decries my answer. Under a Democracy, some of the worst infringments on human rights in history were made, but thats okay right?

1) When the fuck has anyone said that's okay? Why the fuck do you keep repeating the same fucking question to something not one fucking person has said.

2) The WORST human rights infringements in history happened under fascism. What the fuck are you trying to advocate here?

[Blasveck]

Your defending a document drafted by slavers, for Representative democracy that counted its slave popoulation as three fifths of a person, denied women, native americans, and non white men the right to vote for hundreds of years is okay? 187 years of tyranny decries my answer. Under a Democracy, some of the worst infringments on human rights in history were made, but thats okay right?

I can see you've ignored my post. Again.

And that's perfectly okay.

Because you seem to think that human rights wouldn't be violated under a fascist government.

And you'd be wrong.

[Zathganastan]

Your defending a document drafted by slavers, for Representative democracy that counted its slave popoulation as three fifths of a person, denied women, native americans, and non white men the right to vote for hundreds of years is okay? 187 years of tyranny decries my answer. Under a Democracy, some of the worst infringments on human rights in history were made, but thats okay right?

Yes because if you had been paying attention to anything we've said you'd have noticed that times are different and democracy allows change.Your fascist paradise does not.

[The Misotheist Reich]

The point I am trying to make is: under your free system of Democracy, a nation limited the rights of women, and non whites. Allowed, and protected slavery through legislation made by a Democratic government. Only allowed white males to vote. Segregation, treating millions of free men like animals. All under a Democratic system. And what makes that any better than any thing else? You seem to be unmoved that this happened in a civilized capitalist, and democratic society. What makes a society that treats its miniorities, and women like animals better than a society that treats them all the same?

[Blasveck]

The point I am trying to make is: under your free system of Democracy, a nation limited the rights of women, and non whites. Allowed, and protected slavery through legislation made by a Democratic government. Only allowed white males to vote. Segregation, treating millions of free men like animals. All under a Democratic system. And what makes that any better than any thing else? You seem to unmoved that this happened in a civilized capitalist, and democratic society.

And shit changed.

It's not the same today.
Because unless its secretly 1850, the world has changed since then, for the better.

Why?
Because of democracy.

[New Libertarian States]

The point I am trying to make is: under your free system of Democracy, a nation limited the rights of women, and non whites. Allowed, and protected slavery through legislation made by a Democratic government. Only allowed white males to vote. Segregation, treating millions of free men like animals. All under a Democratic system. And what makes that any better than any thing else? You seem to unmoved that this happened in a civilized capitalist, and democratic society.

Because it CHNAGED.
It showed promise of change.
Facisism would not have.
Facisism has done literally the same to others, and showed no promise of ever changing.

[Luveria]

The point I am trying to make is: under your free system of Democracy, a nation limited the rights of women, and non whites. Allowed, and protected slavery through legislation made by a Democratic government. Only allowed white males to vote. Segregation, treating millions of free men like animals. All under a Democratic system. And what makes that any better than any thing else? You seem to unmoved that this happened in a civilized capitalist, and democratic society.

Slavery and segregation have been abolished by all democracies.

Fascist regimes instituted slavery and segregation.

How fucking difficult is this for you? You really don't see how empty and devoid of any rationality your repeated baseless and sourceless statements are? Is your game to ignore everyone and keep repeating the same BS until everyone is too annoyed to respond?

I suggest you go over to Stormfront where you can have anti-intellectual circlejerks with your brothers.

[Luveria]

The point I am trying to make is: under your free system of Democracy, a nation limited the rights of women, and non whites. Allowed, and protected slavery through legislation made by a Democratic government. Only allowed white males to vote. Segregation, treating millions of free men like animals. All under a Democratic system. And what makes that any better than any thing else? You seem to unmoved that this happened in a civilized capitalist, and democratic society.

Because it CHNAGED.
It showed promise of change.
Facisism would not have.
Facisism has done literally the same to others, and showed no promise of ever changing.

Fascism instituted slavery and segregation. And he's asking how the democratic system which ended those things is better.

[New Libertarian States]

Because it CHNAGED.
It showed promise of change.
Facisism would not have.
Facisism has done literally the same to others, and showed no promise of ever changing.

Fascism instituted slavery and segregation. And he's asking how the democratic system which ended those things is better.

Irony, thy name is Misotheist Reich.

[Conkerials]

Pros: Business is strong, the military is strong, the people are strong, things get done, and only the strong make the calls

Name a single dictatorship that didn't eventually collapse under the weight of its own ineptitude or succumb to revolution.

Of course, I prefer fascism with Hath on top. Because I wouldn't be a madman.

No, not a madman. Likely just a cruel and incompetent buffoon, like Mussolini or most youths who seem discontented with living in functional democracies.

If Hitler wasn't such an insane man, and wasn't such a bad tactician, and was more resourceful, the Nazi Regime could've survived for a very long time.

[The Misotheist Reich]

But how could have this have happened in a Democracy? How? A system of representation that denied itself to millions. How could have that happened? You are avoiding my questions. It doesent matter if its 1860 or 1780, it makes it no different than 1933 or 1963. All dates of the past. Some more memorable than others, but you cant ignore them.