Democracy vs. Fascism

[Blasveck]

Democracy of any kind represents you right? So what if a majority of your representatives arent part of your party. Are they representing you then? No. You may use your argument of " its the peoples choice". But is a Democracy really representing you? If a vast majority of your nation had a very low IQ would you want them to vote, for you the minority who has a brain? Why not simplify it. Instead of just letting 300,000, 000 idiots vote against 48, 000, 000 of everyone else. Fascism advocates a government that is not affraid to take action. A government that does not have mindlessly sumbit to the idiotic request of the incompetent masses. A government that can make descisions, with no having to stop proggress because members of the other party want this or that. The government can make descision, take action. A government that will not cooperate with its self is doomed to fail. Absolute calboration caused by a one party system is the only solution. Politicans should not be spineless thralls, intoxicated by the incompetent masses. Fascism has a strong government.

There's this thing called the Constitution.
It protects minority rights.

You should read it sometime.

[Everia]

Democracy of any kind represents you right? So what if a majority of your representatives arent part of your party. Are they representing you then? No. You may use your argument of " its the peoples choice". But is a Democracy really representing you? If a vast majority of your nation had a very low IQ would you want them to vote, for you the minority who has a brain? Why not simplify it. Instead of just letting 300,000, 000 idiots vote against 48, 000, 000 of everyone else. Fascism advocates a government that is not affraid to take action. A government that does not have mindlessly sumbit to the idiotic request of the incompetent masses. A government that can make descisions, with no having to stop proggress because members of the other party want this or that. The government can make descision, take action. A government that will not cooperate with its self is doomed to fail. Absolute calboration caused by a one party system is the only solution. Politicans should not be spineless thralls, intoxicated by the incompetent masses. Fascism has a strong government.

So looking at the underlined, you have a very good reason for why Fascism has always failed, and why it always will.

Seriously, your rhetoric aside do you even look up the history of fascist regimes?

Franco and Salazar don't count because they were Authoritarian Conservatives, not Fascists.

I doubt he'll win now.

[The Misotheist Reich]

I would rather have 3 people make descisions for me than millions of idiots. At least if those three are idiots, I wont have millions of idiots deciding for me.

[Blasveck]

Democracy of any kind represents you right? So what if a majority of your representatives arent part of your party. Are they representing you then? No. You may use your argument of " its the peoples choice". But is a Democracy really representing you? If a vast majority of your nation had a very low IQ would you want them to vote, for you the minority who has a brain? Why not simplify it. Instead of just letting 300,000, 000 idiots vote against 48, 000, 000 of everyone else. Fascism advocates a government that is not affraid to take action. A government that does not have mindlessly sumbit to the idiotic request of the incompetent masses. A government that can make descisions, with no having to stop proggress because members of the other party want this or that. The government can make descision, take action. A government that will not cooperate with its self is doomed to fail. Absolute calboration caused by a one party system is the only solution. Politicans should not be spineless thralls, intoxicated by the incompetent masses. Fascism has a strong government.

And I still haven't seen a source that the "masses are idiots."

You use this tactic a lot.

You make broad generalizations and rhetoric, but you back into a corner when somebody tries to ask for a source.

[Duvniask]

I would rather have 3 people make descisions for me than millions of idiots. At least if those three are idiots, I wont have millions of idiots deciding for me.

Seriously

Those who say "people are idiots" are usually those who think, that they are so much fucking better than everyone else.

[The Misotheist Reich]

Democracy of any kind represents you right? So what if a majority of your representatives arent part of your party. Are they representing you then? No. You may use your argument of " its the peoples choice". But is a Democracy really representing you? If a vast majority of your nation had a very low IQ would you want them to vote, for you the minority who has a brain? Why not simplify it. Instead of just letting 300,000, 000 idiots vote against 48, 000, 000 of everyone else. Fascism advocates a government that is not affraid to take action. A government that does not have mindlessly sumbit to the idiotic request of the incompetent masses. A government that can make descisions, with no having to stop proggress because members of the other party want this or that. The government can make descision, take action. A government that will not cooperate with its self is doomed to fail. Absolute calboration caused by a one party system is the only solution. Politicans should not be spineless thralls, intoxicated by the incompetent masses. Fascism has a strong government.

There's this thing called the Constitution.
It protects minority rights.

You should read it sometime.

Really? Last time I checked our forefathers were pro slavery. George Washington was a slave owner. Thomas Jefferson was a slave owner. The three fifths law, and fugitive slave laws. So while dening the freedom of millions , and stopping them from enjoying the basic rights of the constitution, while only letting white males vote sounds very Democratic does it not? The constitution was drafted up by slave owners, and yet you think Democracy is for everyone. Nice. You see its pure, and utter hypocrisy. 187 years it took for a Capitalist democracy to finally allow some of its citizens to actually go in restraunts, schools, and stores.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

There's this thing called the Constitution.
It protects minority rights.

You should read it sometime.

Really? Last time I checked our forefathers were pro slavery. George Washington was a slave owner. Thomas Jefferson was a slave owner. The three fifths law, and fugitive slave laws. So while dening the freedom of millions , and stopping them from enjoying the basic rights of the constitution, while only letting white males vote sounds very Democratic does it not? The constitution was drafted up by slave owners, and yet you think Democracy is for everyone. Nice. You see its pure, and utter hypocrisy. 187 years it took for a Capitalist democracy to finally allow some of its citizens to actually go in restraunts, schools, and stores.

ohhhhhhh the truth

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh fuckitfeelsgood

[Luveria]

There's this thing called the Constitution.
It protects minority rights.

You should read it sometime.

Really? Last time I checked our forefathers were pro slavery. George Washington was a slave owner. Thomas Jefferson was a slave owner. The three fifths law, and fugitive slave laws. So while dening the freedom of millions , and stopping them from enjoying the basic rights of the constitution, while only letting white males vote sounds very Democratic does it not? The constitution was drafted up by slave owners, and yet you think Democracy is for everyone. Nice. You see its pure, and utter hypocrisy. 187 years it took for a Capitalist democracy to finally allow some of its citizens to actually go in restraunts, schools, and stores.

And how many years did it take for Hitler to start using minorities as slave labourers to be worked to death? I'm not seeing how fascism is the path to human rights.

[Blasveck]

There's this thing called the Constitution.
It protects minority rights.

You should read it sometime.

Really? Last time I checked our forefathers were pro slavery. George Washington was a slave owner. Thomas Jefferson was a slave owner. The three fifths law, and fugitive slave laws. So while dening the freedom of millions , and stopping them from enjoying the basic rights of the constitution, while only letting white males vote sounds very Democratic does it not? The constitution was drafted up by slave owners, and yet you think Democracy is for everyone. Nice. You see its pure, and utter hypocrisy. 187 years it took for a Capitalist democracy to finally allow some of its citizens to actually go in restraunts, schools, and stores.

1. It's called the Amendments
2. And if a fascist government decided to treat blacks as second-class citizens, nothing could be done about it.
3. Your complaints about democracy are completely counter-intuitive.
Why? Under democracy, blacks were allowed to fight for their rights.

Under a fascist government, if Blacks/Jews/Women weren't allowed to have rights, there would be nothing you could do about it.

You assume that the elites would care about minorities. They would not.

[New Libertarian States]

There's this thing called the Constitution.
It protects minority rights.

You should read it sometime.

Really? Last time I checked our forefathers were pro slavery. George Washington was a slave owner. Thomas Jefferson was a slave owner. The three fifths law, and fugitive slave laws. So while dening the freedom of millions , and stopping them from enjoying the basic rights of the constitution, while only letting white males vote sounds very Democratic does it not? The constitution was drafted up by slave owners, and yet you think Democracy is for everyone. Nice. You see its pure, and utter hypocrisy. 187 years it took for a Capitalist democracy to finally allow some of its citizens to actually go in restraunts, schools, and stores.

Last time I checked, Washington let them go when he died, Jefferson as well.
The 3 fifths applied only to the south, and the fugitive Slave wasn't added to the constitution.
Want to tell me how facist dictatorships haven't oppressed millions in history?

[Luveria]

Really? Last time I checked our forefathers were pro slavery. George Washington was a slave owner. Thomas Jefferson was a slave owner. The three fifths law, and fugitive slave laws. So while dening the freedom of millions , and stopping them from enjoying the basic rights of the constitution, while only letting white males vote sounds very Democratic does it not? The constitution was drafted up by slave owners, and yet you think Democracy is for everyone. Nice. You see its pure, and utter hypocrisy. 187 years it took for a Capitalist democracy to finally allow some of its citizens to actually go in restraunts, schools, and stores.

Last time I checked, Washington let them go when he died, Jefferson as well.
The 3 fifths applied only to the south, and the fugitive Slave wasn't added to the constitution.
Want to tell me how facist dictatorships haven't oppressed millions in history?

Do keep in mind he wants to be oppressed because he wants to be free from freedom itself.

[Zathganastan]

Really? Last time I checked our forefathers were pro slavery. George Washington was a slave owner. Thomas Jefferson was a slave owner. The three fifths law, and fugitive slave laws. So while dening the freedom of millions , and stopping them from enjoying the basic rights of the constitution, while only letting white males vote sounds very Democratic does it not? The constitution was drafted up by slave owners, and yet you think Democracy is for everyone. Nice. You see its pure, and utter hypocrisy. 187 years it took for a Capitalist democracy to finally allow some of its citizens to actually go in restraunts, schools, and stores.

Last time I checked, Washington let them go when he died, Jefferson as well.
The 3 fifths applied only to the south, and the fugitive Slave wasn't added to the constitution.
Want to tell me how facist dictatorships haven't oppressed millions in history?

From what I can tell he's taken a page from Stalin's book and believes that so long as humans have rights we're nothing but slaves, and a problem to be dealt with.

[New Libertarian States]

Last time I checked, Washington let them go when he died, Jefferson as well.
The 3 fifths applied only to the south, and the fugitive Slave wasn't added to the constitution.
Want to tell me how facist dictatorships haven't oppressed millions in history?

Do keep in mind he wants to be oppressed because he wants to be free from freedom itself.

Wat.
How does this work?
So, he wants his rights taken away, undieing support to the leader, some of his friends carted off for speaking out, etc.

[The Misotheist Reich]

You think National Socialist Germany is bad? It lasted from 1933 to 1945. Compare that to 187 years of tyrany under a Democracy. 11 million slaves were brought from africa to the U.S. Compare that to your holocaust. Whats the difference? Plus women wre denied the ballot till the 1920s.

[New Libertarian States]

Last time I checked, Washington let them go when he died, Jefferson as well.
The 3 fifths applied only to the south, and the fugitive Slave wasn't added to the constitution.
Want to tell me how facist dictatorships haven't oppressed millions in history?

From what I can tell he's taken a page from Stalin's book and believes that so long as humans have rights we're nothing but slaves, and a problem to be dealt with.

A facist taking notes from a authoritarian self proclaimed communist.
The end is nye!

[Blasveck]

You think National Socialist Germany is bad? It lasted from 1933 to 1945. Compare that to 187 years of tyrany under a Democracy. 11 million slaves were brought from africa to the U.S. Compare that to your holocaust. Whats the difference?

And Hitler also had slaves too y'know.
Fascist governments wouldn't give any rights to slaves.

At least democracies got around to it.

[Luveria]

Do keep in mind he wants to be oppressed because he wants to be free from freedom itself.

Wat.
How does this work?
So, he wants his rights taken away, undieing support to the leader, some of his friends carted off for speaking out, etc.

Yes. He's stated multiple times in this thread that people who support democracy are sheep and slaves, and that he is free because he wants to blindly submit to the will of a totalitarian leader.

You think National Socialist Germany is bad? It lasted from 1933 to 1945. Compare that to 187 years of tyrany under a Democracy. 11 million slaves were brought from africa to the U.S. Compare that to your holocaust. Whats the difference?

Try harder, kid.

[New Libertarian States]

You think National Socialist Germany is bad? It lasted from 1933 to 1945. Compare that to 187 years of tyrany under a Democracy. 11 million slaves were brought from africa to the U.S. Compare that to your holocaust. Whats the difference?

Yes, and in a shorter time, Hitler's nazi Germany caused a bloody world war, and caused
13.9 million+deaths.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1481975 ... -toll.html
Let's do some math:
13.9 mil divided by 12= 115,833 deaths per YEAR under hitler.
And that's not including the homosexuals and others.

[The USOT]

You think National Socialist Germany is bad? It lasted from 1933 to 1945. Compare that to 187 years of tyrany under a Democracy. 11 million slaves were brought from africa to the U.S. Compare that to your holocaust. Whats the difference?

So your just going to ignore posts and carry on?

Put this in perspective. First, Nazi Germany had slaves long after every other regime on earth had ended slavery. That alone makes it fail by your standards. Now, ignoring the Reichs slavery (which was massive btw, and is a figure that extends far beyond the Holocaust) they managed to kill (in the holocaust alone) 11 million people, in 5 years.
5. Years.

Amplify that kind of madness and you have nothing on earth which ever has exceeded that level of tyranny and barbarism.

[The Misotheist Reich]

You think National Socialist Germany is bad? It lasted from 1933 to 1945. Compare that to 187 years of tyrany under a Democracy. 11 million slaves were brought from africa to the U.S. Compare that to your holocaust. Whats the difference?

And Hitler also had slaves too y'know.
Fascist governments wouldn't give any rights to slaves.

At least democracies got around to it.

So because its the United States its justified for 187 years of oppression. But not 12 years. Whats the difference?

[Zathganastan]

From what I can tell he's taken a page from Stalin's book and believes that so long as humans have rights we're nothing but slaves, and a problem to be dealt with.

A facist taking notes from a authoritarian self proclaimed communist.
The end is nye!

Yes thankfully summer is nearly over.

[Blasveck]

And Hitler also had slaves too y'know.
Fascist governments wouldn't give any rights to slaves.

At least democracies got around to it.

So because its the United States its justified for 187 years of oppression. But not 12 years. Whats the difference?

Because Fascism would never have given rights to minorities?
Because it took 5 years for Hitler to kill 11 million people, compared to 11 million slaves in 187 years. (Or 92, depending on how you want to look at it)

[Luveria]

And Hitler also had slaves too y'know.
Fascist governments wouldn't give any rights to slaves.

At least democracies got around to it.

So because its the United States its justified for 187 years of oppression. But not 12 years. Whats the difference?

I take it mathematics was never a class you did well in.

[New Libertarian States]

A facist taking notes from a authoritarian self proclaimed communist.
The end is nye!

Yes thankfully summer is nearly over.

Summer never ends here on NS.
There ain't no rest for the wicked....

[The Misotheist Reich]

So a Democracy that enslaved 11 million people, denies women the vote, and only allowed white men to vote for hundreds of years is justified. Whats the difference between dening women, and minorities the vote for hundreds of years, and not letting any one vote at all?