Democracy vs. Fascism

[The Misotheist Reich]

No, politicians are far worse. They are idiots put up on a podium by an even bigger, and incompetent majority. Politicans in a Democracy are by far the worst. They are slaves to Interest groups, the incomptent majority, and greed.

And the elites are stupid, incompetent, skaves to interest groups, and greed.

The elite are not slaves to the incompetent masses.

[Luveria]

Franco wasn't a fascist.

Franco was indeed a fascist.

Being an authoritarian right-wing traditionalist doesn't make someone a fascist. He repressed the fascist movement in Spain, if you would care to learn anything about Franco.

[Blasveck]

And the elites are stupid, incompetent, skaves to interest groups, and greed.

Not if they are qualified, smart, and strong and not bound by the interests of an incompetent and self-destructive majority of sheep...

They're just as stupid as everyone else.

[Blasveck]

And the elites are stupid, incompetent, skaves to interest groups, and greed.

The elite are not slaves to the incompetent masses.

They ARE slaves to those who have the most money.

[God Kefka]

Democracy trains leaders to win elections... not to govern properly.

Winning elections means conforming to the self-destructive urges of a largely incompetent majority of sheep...

As a result, leaders in democracies are invariably bootlicking, oily, slick manipulators who never govern with a firm hand in the right direction... OR they are idiots elected by other idiots.

What we need is an alternative system where a small minority of really strong and smart people lead with zero regards for the majority of incompetent people. Only then can we move forward with a firm hand...

Democracy is stagnant and self-destructive

Who trains those to govern properly?
You haven't answered this.

Those who are strong, smart, and qualified to lead of course.

[Blasveck]

Who trains those to govern properly?
You haven't answered this.

Those who are strong, smart, and qualified to lead of course.

And who trains those people?

[God Kefka]

Not if they are qualified, smart, and strong and not bound by the interests of an incompetent and self-destructive majority of sheep...

They're just as stupid as everyone else.

Not everyone is as stupid, hopeless, and pathetic as the average voter in a democracy. There are those of us who can rise above that muck and lead if the system were changed...

[Abasha]

Franco was indeed a fascist.

Being an authoritarian right-wing traditionalist doesn't make someone a fascist. He repressed the fascist movement in Spain, if you would care to learn anything about Franco.

Yes, I realize this, but his system of government closely resembled that of fascism and is most readily compared as such.
Definition:
fas·cism
/ˈfaSHizəm/
Noun
An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
(in general use) Extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.

often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality — J. W. Aldridge>

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

[The Misotheist Reich]

The elite are not slaves to the incompetent masses.

They ARE slaves to those who have the most money.

No they are not. They lead as free thinkers. Not caring or being told what to say by the incompetent majority. The few to tame the many. They majority vote in corrupt, thralls who answer to their every biding, and get nothing done. A great leader answers to NO one.

[Blasveck]

They're just as stupid as everyone else.

Not everyone is as stupid, hopeless, and pathetic as the average voter in a democracy. There are those of us who can rise above that muck and lead if the system were changed...

Nope. Everybody is stupid.

You'd probably be a shitty leader.

[God Kefka]

Those who are strong, smart, and qualified to lead of course.

And who trains those people?

Initially someone strong, smart, and qualified would seize power with a party of similar people and with the aid of the military.

Then he would keep training/selecting others and the cycle keeps repeating.

The majority would always be lead by a minority of highly qualified individuals as opposed to having a say in how things are done (and invariably screwing things up due to their ignorance and incompetence).

Better a dictatorship by a few who are smart and strong and can have the nation's interest always at heart....

then a dictatorship by a majority of people who are for the most part stupid, self-destructive sheeples with no strength...

[Blasveck]

They ARE slaves to those who have the most money.

No they are not. They lead as free thinkers. Not caring or being told what to say by the incompetent majority. The few to tame the many. They majority vote in corrupt, thrall who answer to their every biding, and get nothing done. A great leader answers to NO one.

Money is a powerful incentive.
You seem to forget that leaders are not God. They are as incompetent as anyone else.

[Vareiln]

And who trains those people?

Initially someone strong, smart, and qualified would seize power with a party of similar people and with the aid of the military.

Then he would keep training/selecting others and the cycle keeps repeating.

The majority would always be lead by a minority of highly qualified individuals as opposed to having a say in how things are done (and invariably screwing things up due to their ignorance and incompetence).

Better a dictatorship by a few who are smart and strong and can have the nation's interest always at heart....

then a dictatorship by a majority of people who are for the most part stupid, self-destructive sheeples with no strength...

You know, Kefka was not a character to be admired...

[God Kefka]

Not everyone is as stupid, hopeless, and pathetic as the average voter in a democracy. There are those of us who can rise above that muck and lead if the system were changed...

Nope. Everybody is stupid.

You'd probably be a shitty leader.

Thankfully not everyone is stupid.

There are some really really smart and qualified people out there... but democracy invariably ignores them because of the tasteless and stupid masses.

[Blasveck]

And who trains those people?

Initially someone strong, smart, and qualified would seize power with a party of similar people and with the aid of the military.

Then he would keep training/selecting others and the cycle keeps repeating.

The majority would always be lead by a minority of highly qualified individuals as opposed to having a say in how things are done (and invariably screwing things up due to their ignorance and incompetence).

Better a dictatorship by a few who are smart and strong and can have the nation's interest always at heart....

then a dictatorship by a majority of people who are for the most part stupid, self-destructive sheeples with no strength...

Ever hear of Central Planning?
It's always failed.

[Luveria]

Being an authoritarian right-wing traditionalist doesn't make someone a fascist. He repressed the fascist movement in Spain, if you would care to learn anything about Franco.

Yes, I realize this, but his system of government closely resembled that of fascism and is most readily compared as such.
Definition:
fas·cism
/ˈfaSHizəm/
Noun
An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
(in general use) Extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.

often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality — J. W. Aldridge>

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

And Franco wasn't a fascist so it's pointless bringing him up in a discussion about fascism.

And who trains those people?

Initially someone strong, smart, and qualified would seize power with a party of similar people and with the aid of the military.

Then he would keep training/selecting others and the cycle keeps repeating.

The majority would always be lead by a minority of highly qualified individuals as opposed to having a say in how things are done (and invariably screwing things up due to their ignorance and incompetence).

Better a dictatorship by a few who are smart and strong and can have the nation's interest always at heart....

then a dictatorship by a majority of people who are for the most part stupid, self-destructive sheeples with no strength...

Bolshevism?

[Zathganastan]

Democracy trains leaders to win elections... not to govern properly.

Where as fascism teaches you to just have the biggest gun/army/ and ego

Winning elections means conforming to the self-destructive urges of a largely incompetent majority of sheep...

vs the wildly destructive machinations of one man, Democracy works fascism doesn't.

As a result, leaders in democracies are invariably bootlicking, oily, slick manipulators who never govern with a firm hand in the right direction... OR they are idiots elected by other idiots.

America, the UK, and Canada where all vastly more stable, economically, and militarily more successful, then either Germany, Japan or, Italy.Not to mention have outlived any fascists country by a great margin of time.

What we need is an alternative system where a small minority of really strong and smart people lead with zero regards for the majority of incompetent people. Only then can we move forward with a firm hand...

One core party of idiots running the country with little regards for what the rest of us want?

And yet you wounder just why fascism is all but dead.

Fascism is stagnant and self-destructive

Fixed

[The Grey Wolf]

Then they will. Through fierce regimetation, reeducation, and imprisomment. Anarchy is not acceptable in a fascist nation.

You prove again, all your totalitarian rhetoric is made with the assumption you're going to be the leader.

You're never going to lead anyone. You can't even lead yourself, posting on forums about how desperately you want to be ruled by a dictator so you can be free from freedom, and thus not a sheep, however the fuck that works.

Personally I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be the Duce/Fuhrer/Caudillo whatnot. His views would probably not be the same as mine, but it would be something I would have to accept.

[Abasha]

Democracy trains leaders to win elections... not to govern properly.

Where as fascism teaches you to just have the biggest gun/army/ and ego

Winning elections means conforming to the self-destructive urges of a largely incompetent majority of sheep...

vs the wildly destructive machinations of one man, Democracy works fascism doesn't.

As a result, leaders in democracies are invariably bootlicking, oily, slick manipulators who never govern with a firm hand in the right direction... OR they are idiots elected by other idiots.

America, the UK, and Canada where all vastly most stable, economically, and militarily more successful, then either Germany, Japan or, Italy.Not to mention have outlived any fascists country by a great margin of time.

What we need is an alternative system where a small minority of really strong and smart people lead with zero regards for the majority of incompetent people. Only then can we move forward with a firm hand...

One core party of idiots running the country with little regards for what the rest of us want?

And yet you wounder just why fascism is all but dead.

Fascism is stagnant and self-destructive

Fixed

Japan is a technically a monarchy, it gives them tradition and stability.

[God Kefka]

No they are not. They lead as free thinkers. Not caring or being told what to say by the incompetent majority. The few to tame the many. They majority vote in corrupt, thrall who answer to their every biding, and get nothing done. A great leader answers to NO one.

Money is a powerful incentive.
You seem to forget that leaders are not God. They are as incompetent as anyone else.

Not everyone is equally incompetent and not everyone is incompetent (even though MOST people are).

If you believe that everyone is equally incompetent or that everyone is incompetent than you have been enslaved by the Sheep Mentality.

Because the majority of people are incompetent but seek to glorify themselves they convince everyone else that ''everyone is equally incompetent''.

While it may make some people feel good and while it sounds all PC; It is just factually false.

Some people are smarter. Some people run faster. Some people score higher on tests, some people are better fighters.

DEAL WITH IT.

You are a perfect example of the mediocrity mentality. ''Everyone is equally bad...'' REALLY? How can you believe this?

[The Misotheist Reich]

No they are not. They lead as free thinkers. Not caring or being told what to say by the incompetent majority. The few to tame the many. They majority vote in corrupt, thrall who answer to their every biding, and get nothing done. A great leader answers to NO one.

Money is a powerful incentive.
You seem to forget that leaders are not God. They are as incompetent as anyone else.

No there not. They are the elite, born to lead the incompetent, and idotic masses. Politicians in Democracy are slaves to a vastly unintelligent, and incompetent majority that really dont know what they want. They just get fat, ignorant, and intoxicated off of the rabid materialistic propaganda machine created by democracy.

[Luveria]

Where as fascism teaches you to just have the biggest gun/army/ and ego


vs the wildly destructive machinations of one man, Democracy works fascism doesn't.


America, the UK, and Canada where all vastly most stable, economically, and militarily more successful, then either Germany, Japan or, Italy.Not to mention have outlived any fascists country by a great margin of time.


One core party of idiots running the country with little regards for what the rest of us want?

And yet you wounder just why fascism is all but dead.


Fixed

Japan is a technically a monarchy, it gives them tradition and stability.

And Sweden is too yet it's among the most democratic countries in the world. I don't see your point.

[Vareiln]

Where as fascism teaches you to just have the biggest gun/army/ and ego


vs the wildly destructive machinations of one man, Democracy works fascism doesn't.


America, the UK, and Canada where all vastly most stable, economically, and militarily more successful, then either Germany, Japan or, Italy.Not to mention have outlived any fascists country by a great margin of time.


One core party of idiots running the country with little regards for what the rest of us want?

And yet you wounder just why fascism is all but dead.


Fixed

Japan is a technically a monarchy, it gives them tradition and stability.

Ask the average Japanese civilian what they think the monarchy does for them.
You know what, you could even TG NERVUN that question. I'm sure he would give you a good answer.

[Blasveck]

Money is a powerful incentive.
You seem to forget that leaders are not God. They are as incompetent as anyone else.

Not everyone is equally incompetent and not everyone is incompetent (even though MOST people are).

If you believe that everyone is equally incompetent or that everyone is incompetent than you have been enslaved by the Sheep Mentality.

Because the majority of people are incompetent but seek to glorify themselves they convince everyone else that ''everyone is equally incompetent''.

While it may make some people feel good and while it sounds all PC; It is just factually false.

Some people are smarter. Some people run faster. Some people score higher on tests, some people are better fighters.

DEAL WITH IT.

You are a perfect example of the mediocrity mentality. ''Everyone is equally bad...'' REALLY? How can you believe this?

Tsk. Tsk.
Ad hominem? I expected better.
Not once did I say that everyone was equally incompetent.
All I said was that everyone is incompetent.
To what degree is debatable.

For example, you've been pretty incompetent at debating.
No sources. No factual claims. Ignoring history.

Go home bud. You're not fit to lead.

[Abasha]

Yes, I realize this, but his system of government closely resembled that of fascism and is most readily compared as such.
Definition:
fas·cism
/ˈfaSHizəm/
Noun
An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
(in general use) Extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.

often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality — J. W. Aldridge>

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

And Franco wasn't a fascist so it's pointless bringing him up in a discussion about fascism.

Initially someone strong, smart, and qualified would seize power with a party of similar people and with the aid of the military.

Then he would keep training/selecting others and the cycle keeps repeating.

The majority would always be lead by a minority of highly qualified individuals as opposed to having a say in how things are done (and invariably screwing things up due to their ignorance and incompetence).

Better a dictatorship by a few who are smart and strong and can have the nation's interest always at heart....

then a dictatorship by a majority of people who are for the most part stupid, self-destructive sheeples with no strength...

Bolshevism?

You sir do not see my point, Franco was not technically a fascist BUT he does fit the definition for a fascist according to Merriam-Webster, a reliable source. You can be democratic and be a monarchy, hence the source of some of my own personal beliefs.