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Everia
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Postby Everia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:39 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Slafstopia wrote:
So, tell me. What if there was a fascist totalitarian oligarchy that didn't segregate the non-whites and non-straights? What would your opinion be on that?


No Fascist government would not incorporate racial policy.

That's funny, because there are a lot of examples of racial policies in Fascist Italy and other fascistic states.

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Postby Luveria » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:41 pm

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I am male. I would never involve those themes in my writting. There are no undertones. My desire is to be lead, by a leader who is strong, competent, and can lead me.


Who chooses the leader?
Do you believe that YOU will be the leader?

Btw, Central Planning never works.

They are bitching and moaning about being led by a democratically elected leader so their solution is to be governed by an unelected leader they had no say in choosing. So much facepalm logic in this thread.

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Postby The Misotheist Reich » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:41 pm

Luveria wrote:
The Misotheist Reich wrote:
I am male. I would never involve those themes in my writting. There are no undertones. My desire is to be lead, by a leader who is strong, competent, and can lead me.


I do wonder how you don't see the ridiculous hypocrisy of calling people sheep, calling the populaces of democratic nations enslaved, while you are craving to be lead by a despot.


I am not a sheep for I have desire to be free from the ultimate tyrany...descision. Democracy enslaves, Fascism frees.
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Postby Everia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:43 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Luveria wrote:
I do wonder how you don't see the ridiculous hypocrisy of calling people sheep, calling the populaces of democratic nations enslaved, while you are craving to be lead by a despot.


I am not a sheep for I have desire to be free from the ultimate tyranny...decision. Democracy enslaves, Fascism frees.

So you want to be free from being able to chose your representatives and leaders and instead have a despotic dictator who answers to no one and does what he/she wants?

I just what.

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Postby Luveria » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:43 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Luveria wrote:
I do wonder how you don't see the ridiculous hypocrisy of calling people sheep, calling the populaces of democratic nations enslaved, while you are craving to be lead by a despot.


I am not a sheep for I have desire to be free from the ultimate tyrany...descision. Democracy enslaves, Fascism frees.

Slavery is freedom? Is that what I'm reading?

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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:43 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Luveria wrote:
I do wonder how you don't see the ridiculous hypocrisy of calling people sheep, calling the populaces of democratic nations enslaved, while you are craving to be lead by a despot.


I am not a sheep for I have desire to be free from the ultimate tyrany...descision. Democracy enslaves, Fascism frees.

Do you really have a correct definition of fascism and democracy?
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Postby Everia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:44 pm

Luveria wrote:
The Misotheist Reich wrote:
I am not a sheep for I have desire to be free from the ultimate tyrany...descision. Democracy enslaves, Fascism frees.

Slavery is freedom? Is that what I'm reading?

Ignorance is strength and War is peace am I right?

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Postby Luveria » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:46 pm

Everia wrote:
Luveria wrote:Slavery is freedom? Is that what I'm reading?

Ignorance is strength and War is peace am I right?

That seems to be their ideology.

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Postby The Misotheist Reich » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:47 pm

Everia wrote:
The Misotheist Reich wrote:
I am not a sheep for I have desire to be free from the ultimate tyranny...decision. Democracy enslaves, Fascism frees.

So you want to be free from being able to chose your representatives and leaders and instead have a despotic dictator who answers to no one and does what he/she wants?

I just what.


Yes I want to be free from the tyranical incompetence of the majority, and their thralls in political offices. A leader answers to no one. He is stong. He can lead. Why vote? Your vote dosent count. If you voted for Romney you vote didnt count. Whats the point?
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Postby Blasveck » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:47 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Everia wrote:So you want to be free from being able to chose your representatives and leaders and instead have a despotic dictator who answers to no one and does what he/she wants?

I just what.


Yes I want to be free from the tyranical icompetence of the majority, and the thralls in political offices. A leader answers to no one. He is stong. He can lead. Why vote? Your vote dosent count. If you voted for Romney you vote didnt count. Whats the point?


Your leader will answer to Fortune 500.

Way to fucking go.
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Postby Luveria » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:49 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Everia wrote:So you want to be free from being able to chose your representatives and leaders and instead have a despotic dictator who answers to no one and does what he/she wants?

I just what.


Yes I want to be free from the tyranical incompetence of the majority, and their thralls in political offices. A leader answers to no one. He is stong. He can lead. Why vote? Your vote dosent count. If you voted for Romney you vote didnt count. Whats the point?

Do you not understand basic math?

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Postby The Misotheist Reich » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:50 pm

Blasveck wrote:
The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Yes I want to be free from the tyranical icompetence of the majority, and the thralls in political offices. A leader answers to no one. He is stong. He can lead. Why vote? Your vote dosent count. If you voted for Romney you vote didnt count. Whats the point?


Your leader will answer to Fortune 500.

Way to fucking go.


Yes in my system. Buisness is part of the government. There are no regulations on corporate bodies within the nation. There are no labor unions. Tax rates are low for corporations. Small buisness is banned. And corporations must stay within the nation.
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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:50 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Everia wrote:So you want to be free from being able to chose your representatives and leaders and instead have a despotic dictator who answers to no one and does what he/she wants?

I just what.


Yes I want to be free from the tyranical incompetence of the majority, and their thralls in political offices. A leader answers to no one. He is stong. He can lead. Why vote? Your vote dosent count. If you voted for Romney you vote didnt count. Whats the point?

I'll laugh if the leader who guides you turns out to be someone like Aladeen.
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Postby Blasveck » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:52 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
Your leader will answer to Fortune 500.

Way to fucking go.


Yes in my system. Buisness is part of the government. There are no regulations on corporate bodies within the nation. There are no labor unions. Tax rates are low for corporations. Small buisness is banned. And corporations must stay within the nation.


Yeah, and corporations will rule you, not your leader.
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Postby The Misotheist Reich » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:52 pm

Luveria wrote:
The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Yes I want to be free from the tyranical incompetence of the majority, and their thralls in political offices. A leader answers to no one. He is stong. He can lead. Why vote? Your vote dosent count. If you voted for Romney you vote didnt count. Whats the point?

Do you not understand basic math?


A leader in a Fascist system is a slave to no one. A leader in a Democracy is a slave to millions.
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Postby New Libertarian States » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:52 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Everia wrote:So you want to be free from being able to chose your representatives and leaders and instead have a despotic dictator who answers to no one and does what he/she wants?

I just what.


Yes I want to be free from the tyranical incompetence of the majority, and their thralls in political offices. A leader answers to no one. He is stong. He can lead. Why vote? Your vote dosent count. If you voted for Romney you vote didnt count. Whats the point?

Because YOUR VOICE MATTERS.
It did count. You didn't win, but that's like saying "Gee, we didn't win the game. Nothing we did mattered."
No, it did matter. It showed what the people want(policy wise) and what they don't want.
Any leader can fuck up.
The difference between democracy and fascism in this regard is you can remove a democratic elected leader.
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

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Postby Luveria » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:52 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
Your leader will answer to Fortune 500.

Way to fucking go.


Yes in my system. Buisness is part of the government. There are no regulations on corporate bodies within the nation. There are no labor unions. Tax rates are low for corporations. Small buisness is banned. And corporations must stay within the nation.

There you go again. Assuming you are going to be the leader.

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Postby Everia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:53 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
Your leader will answer to Fortune 500.

Way to fucking go.


Yes in my system. Buisness is part of the government. There are no regulations on corporate bodies within the nation. There are no labor unions. Tax rates are low for corporations. Small buisness is banned. And corporations must stay within the nation.

You obviously seem to be lacking in the economic aspect of Fascism. Fascists wouldn't let corporations run around and do whatever they wanted.

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Postby Luveria » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:53 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Luveria wrote:Do you not understand basic math?


A leader in a Fascist system is a slave to no one. A leader in a Democracy is a slave to millions.

This is so backwards. It's hopeless reasoning with this kid.

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Postby New Libertarian States » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:53 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Luveria wrote:Do you not understand basic math?


A leader in a Fascist system is a slave to no one. A leader in a Democracy is a slave to millions.

Actually, no one is a slave.
Your a leader only because of the people. Without them, you'll end up like every overthrown leader in history.
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

Literally a Horse
Not a Libertarian, just like the name.[benevolentthomas] horse is a defender leader in multiple region- whore organizations.
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Postby Zathganastan » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:54 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Everia wrote:So you want to be free from being able to chose your representatives and leaders and instead have a despotic dictator who answers to no one and does what he/she wants?

I just what.


Yes I want to be free from the tyranical incompetence of the majority, and their thralls in political offices. A leader answers to no one. He is stong. He can lead. Why vote? Your vote dosent count. If you voted for Romney you vote didnt count. Whats the point?


So because democracy misses up every now then, only sensible choice is to have one person take charge and do whatever the hell they want completely devoid of any restrictions?

Thats a rather frightening world view to hold.
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Postby Trotskylvania » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:54 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Luveria wrote:Do you not understand basic math?


A leader in a Fascist system is a slave to no one. A leader in a Democracy is a slave to millions.

Like everyone in pre-revolutionary society, the leader of a fascist regime is ultimately a puppet to historical forces beyond his control. He is a function of the system, and nothing more.
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Postby The Misotheist Reich » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:55 pm

Everia wrote:
The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Yes in my system. Buisness is part of the government. There are no regulations on corporate bodies within the nation. There are no labor unions. Tax rates are low for corporations. Small buisness is banned. And corporations must stay within the nation.

You obviously seem to be lacking in the economic aspect of Fascism. Fascists wouldn't let corporations run around and do whatever they wanted.


Well to ensure economic prosperity by any means possible. No minimum wage, No over time, No labor unions, no strikes. Almost every aspect of a fascist economy.
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:56 pm

Blasveck wrote:
The Misotheist Reich wrote:
I would want to serve my leader to benifit my nation. He would lead me to bliss, and salvation, and away from the terrors of Materialism. I would love to be lead by a strong, and competent leader, who is born to lead. I am not part of tge enslaved masses. I am no thrall to Democracy. I am a servant of the State to the very end, and that is all.


Just. I literally am speechless.

Thank whatever God exists that people like you will never have power, ever since Hitler ruined your happy Utopic State-led world.


The Jews will make sure of it. :p
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Postby Luveria » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:56 pm

Zathganastan wrote:
The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Yes I want to be free from the tyranical incompetence of the majority, and their thralls in political offices. A leader answers to no one. He is stong. He can lead. Why vote? Your vote dosent count. If you voted for Romney you vote didnt count. Whats the point?


So because democracy misses up every now then, only sensible choice is to have one person take charge and do whatever the hell they want completely devoid of any restrictions?

Thats a rather frightening world view to hold.

Especially when democracies generally have a record of success, while fascism has the worst track record of any ideological system.

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Everia wrote:You obviously seem to be lacking in the economic aspect of Fascism. Fascists wouldn't let corporations run around and do whatever they wanted.


Well to ensure economic prosperity by any means possible. No minimum wage, No over time, No labor unions, no strikes. Almost every aspect of a fascist economy.

You have no idea what fascism is.

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