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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:23 pm

Sabara wrote:Why is this even a topic of discussion?

Are there seriously 'bow to mussonoli foolz' 'heil heitler' people here? o_O


Yes.
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Postby Slafstopia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:23 pm

Murray land wrote:
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That's pretty funny, because Fascism puts everyone under one dictatorship, with or without consent of the majority or plurality of people.

Single party communist countries don't do that?


For the love of atheismo, a real communist state has no political parties. Only fun parties.

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Postby Pacifornia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:24 pm

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The party/movement describes itself as Neo-Nazi, tho.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Daw ... _of_Nazism


And?

Neo-Nazis can (and usually do) hold centrist economic views.

They hate free market capitalism (which is right wing) and complete communism (which is left wing).


True. From what I've read, they hate capitalism and communism because they think it's the work of the "J00s"
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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:24 pm

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Nazism is an anti-democratic ideology. Please show me where you got the idea that the Nazis valued democracy.


It's not Nazism if one man rules (in this example) the whole world.


Are you talking about democracy existing within the Nazi society or in an outside society that the Nazi society can portray as an enemy?
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Postby Northoslavia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:24 pm

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Communism is both a Social and an Economic ideology.


Then switch the term communism with collectivism, which is the economic side of communism.


Then they believe in State-controlled Capitalism.

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Postby Sabara » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:24 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Sabara wrote:Why is this even a topic of discussion?

Are there seriously 'bow to mussonoli foolz' 'heil heitler' people here? o_O


Yes.


o.o

All I can say to them is to look at history.
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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:25 pm

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Libertarian California wrote:
And?

Neo-Nazis can (and usually do) hold centrist economic views.

They hate free market capitalism (which is right wing) and complete communism (which is left wing).


True. From what I've read, they hate capitalism and communism because they think it's the work of the "J00s"


They think that Karl Marx and Adam Smith were both closet Jews, or something.
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Postby Northoslavia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:25 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
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It's not Nazism if one man rules (in this example) the whole world.


Are you talking about democracy existing within the Nazi society or in an outside society that the Nazi society can portray as an enemy?


Within.

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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:25 pm

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Yes.


o.o

All I can say to them is to look at history.


Good luck with that. Their interpretation of history is different.
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Postby Pacifornia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:26 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Sabara wrote:Why is this even a topic of discussion?

Are there seriously 'bow to mussonoli foolz' 'heil heitler' people here? o_O


Yes.


Anything is possible on the internet. They should add another internet rule like this: "Anyone can access the internet, even extremists".
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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:26 pm

Northoslavia wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
Are you talking about democracy existing within the Nazi society or in an outside society that the Nazi society can portray as an enemy?


Within.


Then that doesn't make sense. If the Nazis conquered the world, why would they need to become democratic to still be called Nazis?
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Postby Slafstopia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:26 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
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True. From what I've read, they hate capitalism and communism because they think it's the work of the "J00s"


They think that Karl Marx and Adam Smith were both closet Jews, or something.


...Marx was a 'closet Jew.' He converted to Protestant Christianity because of anti-Semitism.
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Postby Pacifornia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:27 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
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True. From what I've read, they hate capitalism and communism because they think it's the work of the "J00s"


They think that Karl Marx and Adam Smith were both closet Jews, or something.


Everybody, every animal and every inanimate objects are Jews lol *sarcasm* I'm surprised they don't suspect each other of being semitic haha. :p
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Postby Northoslavia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:28 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Northoslavia wrote:
Within.


Then that doesn't make sense. If the Nazis conquered the world, why would they need to become democratic to still be called Nazis?


Well, I mean, if you conquered the world, and have your race hold superiority, wouldn't that mean that your race should hold the highest authority?

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Postby Murray land » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:29 pm

New Libertarian States wrote:
Murray land wrote:Single party communist countries don't do that?

Bold mine.
Relevance?
Mind you, I wouldn't call North Korea (which isn't communist) in anyway democratic.
It's "Vote for me, or die."

That's pretty funny, because Fascism puts everyone under one dictatorship, with or without consent of the majority or plurality of people. You said this correct? Many communist countries have a tendency to suppress oppostion. Relevance? Well don't pretend like fascists are the only bad guys.
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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:29 pm

Pacifornia wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
They think that Karl Marx and Adam Smith were both closet Jews, or something.


Everybody, every animal and every inanimate objects are Jews lol *sarcasm* I'm surprised they don't suspect each other of being semitic haha. :p


There was a video of a white woman in a store calling everyone a nigger. It went viral and Stormfront people started commenting on it. They said the woman was probably either Jewish or a white American who was brainwashed by the "Zionist New World Order" :rofl:
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Postby New Libertarian States » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:29 pm

Pacifornia wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
They think that Karl Marx and Adam Smith were both closet Jews, or something.


Everybody, every animal and every inanimate objects are Jews lol *sarcasm* I'm surprised they don't suspect each other of being semitic haha. :p

It's like Russian roulette,except they use a Menorah, and wait for the first person to light it.
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Do you hear the people sing?
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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:30 pm

Northoslavia wrote:
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Then that doesn't make sense. If the Nazis conquered the world, why would they need to become democratic to still be called Nazis?


Well, I mean, if you conquered the world, and have your race hold superiority, wouldn't that mean that your race should hold the highest authority?


That doesn't equal democracy though.

It's not like they'll be electing the Fuhrer.
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Postby Slafstopia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:31 pm

Murray land wrote:
New Libertarian States wrote:Bold mine.
Relevance?
Mind you, I wouldn't call North Korea (which isn't communist) in anyway democratic.
It's "Vote for me, or die."

That's pretty funny, because Fascism puts everyone under one dictatorship, with or without consent of the majority or plurality of people. You said this correct? Many communist countries have a tendency to suppress oppostion. Relevance? Well don't pretend like fascists are the only bad guys.


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Postby Murray land » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:31 pm

New Libertarian States wrote:
Pacifornia wrote:
Everybody, every animal and every inanimate objects are Jews lol *sarcasm* I'm surprised they don't suspect each other of being semitic haha. :p

It's like Russian roulette,except they use a Menorah, and wait for the first person to light it.

I believe it is the eldest sons job.
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Postby New Libertarian States » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:31 pm

Murray land wrote:
New Libertarian States wrote:Bold mine.
Relevance?
Mind you, I wouldn't call North Korea (which isn't communist) in anyway democratic.
It's "Vote for me, or die."

That's pretty funny, because Fascism puts everyone under one dictatorship, with or without consent of the majority or plurality of people. You said this correct? Many communist countries have a tendency to suppress oppostion. Relevance? Well don't pretend like fascists are the only bad guys.

Other than the Free Ukraine, I can't think of any communist country other than those in name only.
Mind you, I do know there are authoritarian communists. I understand that any ideology can go to shit, and cause bad things.
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

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Postby New Libertarian States » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:32 pm

Murray land wrote:
New Libertarian States wrote:It's like Russian roulette,except they use a Menorah, and wait for the first person to light it.

I believe it is the eldest sons job.

It is (my dad is Jewish)
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

Literally a Horse
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Postby Northoslavia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:32 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Northoslavia wrote:
Well, I mean, if you conquered the world, and have your race hold superiority, wouldn't that mean that your race should hold the highest authority?


That doesn't equal democracy though.

It's not like they'll be electing the Fuhrer.


Yes, but you get where I'm coming from.

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Postby Abasha » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:34 pm

I hate democracy, as it is rule by a great number of sheep who can be influenced in any manner of ways. Most people cannot handle the privilege and responsibility that a vote can bring to a person, therefore they are influenced and use their vote foolishly, thus furthering the influence of a few. I am a monarchist, but in the argument of fascism versus democracy, I would say that fascism would be better in my opinion.

Besides, Franco was a good leader!
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Postby Blasveck » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:36 pm

Abasha wrote:I hate democracy, as it is rule by a great number of sheep who can be influenced in any manner of ways. Most people cannot handle the privilege and responsibility that a vote can bring to a person, therefore they are influenced and use their vote foolishly, thus furthering the influence of a few. I am a monarchist, but in the argument of fascism versus democracy, I would say that fascism would be better in my opinion.

Besides, Franco was a good leader!


And herein lies the problem with Monarchies and Fascism.

Both place power in the hands of the few, and them expect the ruling class to not be ignorant and stupid and corruptible like the rest of the ignorant and stupid common men.

Quite the hypocrisy.
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