Democracy vs. Fascism

[The Misotheist Reich]

Materialism, Democracy, and Free market tools of slavery. The free market uses it advertising propaganda to tell you what to buy, and lie to you. Democracy enslaves everyone even our elected represtentatives to a feeble minded mass. Materialism a tool of slavery used to entral you.

[Northoslavia]

Yes they do, with one candidate on the list, and if you do not vote for him, you get executed.

Which isn't really an election. At least a not a free election.

Irrelevant.

[Libertarian California]

Most neo-Nazi movements or authoritarian syndicalist movements. The ones that have stated views on economics say that they are in opposition to communism and capitalism.

Example: American Third Positionist Party, Golden Dawn, ect.

How is the Golden Dawn centrist? They are homophobic and believe in Greek superiority, in Greece.

Read what I wrote:

The ones that have stated views on economics say that they are in opposition to communism and capitalism.

That is an extreme centrist, or 3rd position viewpoint.

Social issues and civil liberties aren't measured on a left-right scale.

[Northoslavia]

No, because in Nazism, the ruling race has complete Democracy. While in Fascism, the race does have superiority, but the state has the highest authority.

Hitler pretty much destroyed democracy with the Enabling Acts.

And pure Ayrans who opposed Hitler were severely punished.

You know why this argument will not get us anywhere?
I support the ideas of one ideology, and describe them like that.
You describe the ideas of one ideology based on practice.

[Nationalist Eminral Republic]

The line blurs when a fascist country starts conquering places, like Japan, Germany, and Italy did.

No, because in Nazism, the ruling race has complete Democracy. While in Fascism, the race does have superiority, but the state has the highest authority.

No. Fascism believes in the superiority of the state and the culture. Fascism does not say any about race superiority. Italian Fascism values Italian culture the most.

[Libertarian California]

Which isn't really an election. At least a not a free election.

Irrelevant.

What? So you can honestly say with a straight face that North Korean elections are genuine?

[Blasveck]

Materialism, Democracy, and Free market tools of slavery. The free market uses it advertising propaganda to tell you what to buy, and lie to you. Democracy enslaves everyone even our elected represtentatives to a feeble minded mass. Materialism a tool of slavery used to entral you.

And the elites won't be subject to "Materialism'?

Every single fascist and Authoritarianist has this notion that the ruling classes will live in their own little bubble, free from corruption and influence.

The truth is, the elites are people, and they're just as stupid, ignorant, and corruptible as anybody else.

[Northoslavia]

How is the Golden Dawn centrist? They are homophobic and believe in Greek superiority, in Greece.

Read what I wrote:

The ones that have stated views on economics say that they are in opposition to communism and capitalism.

That is an extreme centrist, or 3rd position viewpoint.

Social issues and civil liberties aren't measured on a left-right scale.

Still, how is the golden down centrist?

[Northoslavia]

Irrelevant.

What? So you can honestly say with a straight face that North Korean elections are genuine?

No, but they are still, by definition, elections.

[Libertarian California]

Hitler pretty much destroyed democracy with the Enabling Acts.

And pure Ayrans who opposed Hitler were severely punished.

You know why this argument will not get us anywhere?
I support the ideas of one ideology, and describe them like that.
You describe the ideas of one ideology based on practice.

Nope. Official Nazi ideology states that democracy (along with capitalism and communism) is the work of Jews.

[Vazdania]

No, because in Nazism, the ruling race has complete Democracy. While in Fascism, the race does have superiority, but the state has the highest authority.

No. Fascism believes in the superiority of the state and the culture. Fascism does not say any about race superiority. Italian Fascism values Italian culture the most.

Point of Order: Italy's culture is quite glorious.

[Murray land]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism
Nazism, or National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus, the first part pronounced as "Nazi"), is a variety of fascism.
So....NOPE.

Nazism believes in a race ruling the world, Fascism believes in racial superiority in a country which represents that race.

Unless your brand of fascism is civic nationalist.

[New Libertarian States]

Materialism, Democracy, and Free market tools of slavery. The free market uses it advertising propaganda to tell you what to buy, and lie to you. Democracy enslaves everyone even our elected represtentatives to a feeble minded mass. Materialism a tool of slavery used to entral you.

Actually, I really don't buy highly commercialized things. I'll buy the occasional Coke or Pepsi, but not anything really mass marketed.
That's pretty funny, because Fascism puts everyone under one dictatorship, with or without consent of the majority or plurality of people.

[Libertarian California]

Read what I wrote:



That is an extreme centrist, or 3rd position viewpoint.

Social issues and civil liberties aren't measured on a left-right scale.

Still, how is the golden down centrist?

Because economically, they are center.

[Northoslavia]

You know why this argument will not get us anywhere?
I support the ideas of one ideology, and describe them like that.
You describe the ideas of one ideology based on practice.

Nope. Official Nazi ideology states that democracy (along with capitalism and communism) is the work of Jews.

See?
By definition, in global Nazism, Democracy must exist in order for that to be called Nazism. Otherwise it's Fascism.

[Slafstopia]

Materialism, Representative Democracy, and Free market tools of slavery. The free market uses it advertising propaganda to tell you what to buy, and lie to you. Democracy enslaves everyone even our elected represtentatives to a feeble minded mass. Materialism a tool of slavery used to entral you.

FIFY.

The solution to the problems of representative democracies aren't fixed by fascism, only by direct democracies.

[Northoslavia]

Still, how is the golden down centrist?

Because economically, they are center.

The party/movement describes itself as Neo-Nazi, tho.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Daw ... _of_Nazism

[Libertarian California]

Nope. Official Nazi ideology states that democracy (along with capitalism and communism) is the work of Jews.

See?
By definition, in global Nazism, Democracy must exist in order for that to be called Nazism. Otherwise it's Fascism.

Nazism is an anti-democratic ideology. Please show me where you got the idea that the Nazis valued democracy.

[Libertarian California]

Because economically, they are center.

The party/movement describes itself as Neo-Nazi, tho.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Daw ... _of_Nazism

And?

Neo-Nazis can (and usually do) hold centrist economic views.

They hate free market capitalism (which is right wing) and complete communism (which is left wing).

[Murray land]

Materialism, Democracy, and Free market tools of slavery. The free market uses it advertising propaganda to tell you what to buy, and lie to you. Democracy enslaves everyone even our elected represtentatives to a feeble minded mass. Materialism a tool of slavery used to entral you.

Actually, I really don't buy highly commercialized things. I'll buy the occasional Coke or Pepsi, but not anything really mass marketed.
That's pretty funny, because Fascism puts everyone under one dictatorship, with or without consent of the majority or plurality of people.

Single party communist countries don't do that?

[Northoslavia]

See?
By definition, in global Nazism, Democracy must exist in order for that to be called Nazism. Otherwise it's Fascism.

Nazism is an anti-democratic ideology. Please show me where you got the idea that the Nazis valued democracy.

It's not Nazism if one man rules (in this example) the whole world.

[Northoslavia]

The party/movement describes itself as Neo-Nazi, tho.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Daw ... _of_Nazism

And?

Neo-Nazis can (and usually do) hold centrist economic views.

They hate free market capitalism (which is right wing) and complete communism (which is left wing).

Communism is both a Social and an Economic ideology.

[New Libertarian States]

Actually, I really don't buy highly commercialized things. I'll buy the occasional Coke or Pepsi, but not anything really mass marketed.
That's pretty funny, because Fascism puts everyone under one dictatorship, with or without consent of the majority or plurality of people.

Single party communist countries don't do that?

Bold mine.
Relevance?
Mind you, I wouldn't call North Korea (which isn't communist) in anyway democratic.
It's "Vote for me, or die."

[Sabara]

Why is this even a topic of discussion?

Are there seriously 'bow to mussonoli foolz' 'heil heitler' people here? o_O

[Libertarian California]

And?

Neo-Nazis can (and usually do) hold centrist economic views.

They hate free market capitalism (which is right wing) and complete communism (which is left wing).

Communism is both a Social and an Economic ideology.

Then switch the term communism with collectivism, which is the economic side of communism.