Democracy vs. Fascism

[Blasveck]

There's also the Democratic Republic of North Korea. Are they a Republic?
The Nazis used the name to garner support, AFAIK. Denying that Nazi Germany was fascist is like denying that Stalin was authoritarian.

But there are differences between Nazism and Fascism. Nazism believes in racial superiority unlike Fascism, which believes in strong state for the advancement of the society.

Are you saying that Nazi Germany didn't use a strong state for the advancement of society?

[New Libertarian States]

Nazi Germany was definitely not economically right. They used Central Planning for God's sake.

Nazi Germany=NAZI. Nationalist-Socialist =/= Fascist

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism
Nazism, or National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus, the first part pronounced as "Nazi"), is a variety of fascism.
So....NOPE.

[Nationalist Eminral Republic]

The weak, and feeble minded should be sheltered from politics. The majority of the population is an incomptent mess. Why not put the strong to lead the weak. The weak lead the weak in democracy. Both the men in power in a Democracy, and its people are slaves to a virtually wholly incomptent, materialistic, and selfish popoulation. In fascism the stong lead the weak. Democracy enslaves all to the wishes of a completly gulible, and incompetant population.

Who gets to choose who are the strong and who are the weak?

[Northoslavia]

Yes because Mussolini never said he wanted Fascism to not be destructive like the left and backwards like the right. Fascism is just screwy plain and simple.

Fascists are called 3rd Position for a reason ya know

Are today's Fascist movements Centrist?

[Libertarian California]

There's also the Democratic Republic of North Korea. Are they a Republic?
The Nazis used the name to garner support, AFAIK. Denying that Nazi Germany was fascist is like denying that Stalin was authoritarian.

They have elections, don't they?

Hitler's ideology was Nazi, the practice of his ideology is irrelevant.

North Korea has elections?

Hitler was ideologically consistent with Fascism when it came to economics.

[Libertarian California]

Fascists are called 3rd Position for a reason ya know

Are today's Fascist movements Centrist?

Authoritarian centrist, yes.

[Nationalist Eminral Republic]

They have elections, don't they?

Hitler's ideology was Nazi, the practice of his ideology is irrelevant.

North Korea has elections?

Hitler was ideologically consistent with Fascism when it came to economics.

Yes, but there's only 1 candidate

[The Misotheist Reich]

The weak, and feeble minded should be sheltered from politics. The majority of the population is an incomptent mess. Why not put the strong to lead the weak. The weak lead the weak in democracy. Both the men in power in a Democracy, and its people are slaves to a virtually wholly incomptent, materialistic, and selfish popoulation. In fascism the stong lead the weak. Democracy enslaves all to the wishes of a completly gulible, and incompetant population.

You aren't answering my questions.

Who gets to choose the elite to rule?
What if the elites are terrible?
What if they fuck up?

The strong, the elite, those born to rule. Not idiotic bourgeois only out for personal gain. But indeed real leaders.

They wont be. The incompetant masses need a leader thus they have light in the darkness.

They wont. The people will though.

[Northoslavia]

Nazi Germany=NAZI. Nationalist-Socialist =/= Fascist

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism
Nazism, or National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus, the first part pronounced as "Nazi"), is a variety of fascism.
So....NOPE.

Nazism believes in a race ruling the world, Fascism believes in racial superiority in a country which represents that race.

[Nationalist Eminral Republic]

You aren't answering my questions.

Who gets to choose the elite to rule?
What if the elites are terrible?
What if they fuck up?

The strong, the elite, those born to rule. Not idiotic bourgeois only out for personal gain. But indeed real leaders.

They wont be. The incompetant masses need a leader thus they have light in the darkness.

They wont. The people will though.

How can you be so sure they won't fuck up? I mean several "leaders" did fuck up.

[Blasveck]

They have elections, don't they?

Hitler's ideology was Nazi, the practice of his ideology is irrelevant.

North Korea has elections?

Hitler was ideologically consistent with Fascism when it came to economics.

He was socially authoritarian too. He was a Fascist no doubt.

[New Libertarian States]

They have elections, don't they?

Hitler's ideology was Nazi, the practice of his ideology is irrelevant.

North Korea has elections?

Hitler was ideologically consistent with Fascism when it came to economics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_North_Korea
He's correct.
But they're horribly corrupt.

[Northoslavia]

Are today's Fascist movements Centrist?

Authoritarian centrist, yes.

What movements are you even aware of?

[Bentrada]

Democracy has the Majority Rule, the rule of the people. This of course sounds good but what if the majority decides to take away ones home , and business, and children? Obviously there has to be a limit. The flaw in Democracy is that the majority isn't restrained, if more then half the people can be persuaded to want something in a Democracy, they rule. But with Fascism there is no Majority rule, no rule of the people. The government power is 100%, total government. A Fascist government is authoritarian. With little to no freedom with Fascism, and much to all freedom with Democracy, both are very flawed and bad systems of government.

[Libertarian California]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism
Nazism, or National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus, the first part pronounced as "Nazi"), is a variety of fascism.
So....NOPE.

Nazism believes in a race ruling the world, Fascism believes in racial superiority in a country which represents that race.

The line blurs when a fascist country starts conquering places, like Japan, Germany, and Italy did.

[Northoslavia]

They have elections, don't they?

Hitler's ideology was Nazi, the practice of his ideology is irrelevant.

North Korea has elections?

Hitler was ideologically consistent with Fascism when it came to economics.

Yes they do, with one candidate on the list, and if you do not vote for him, you get executed.

[Blasveck]

You aren't answering my questions.

Who gets to choose the elite to rule?
What if the elites are terrible?
What if they fuck up?

The strong, the elite, those born to rule. Not idiotic bourgeois only out for personal gain. But indeed real leaders.

They wont be. The incompetant masses need a leader thus they have light in the darkness.

They wont. The people will though.

If people are stupid, leaders will be as well.

And who gets to choose who those leaders are?

[Pacifornia]

Nazi Germany was definitely not economically right. They used Central Planning for God's sake.

Nazi Germany=NAZI. Nationalist-Socialist =/= Fascist

I think pure National Socialism was bastardized in Germany to be transformed into Hitlerism. Yeah I made that "ism" up lol

[Libertarian California]

Authoritarian centrist, yes.

What movements are you even aware of?

Most neo-Nazi movements or authoritarian syndicalist movements. The ones that have stated views on economics say that they are in opposition to communism and capitalism.

Example: American Third Positionist Party, Golden Dawn, ect.

[Northoslavia]

Nazism believes in a race ruling the world, Fascism believes in racial superiority in a country which represents that race.

The line blurs when a fascist country starts conquering places, like Japan, Germany, and Italy did.

No, because in Nazism, the ruling race has complete Democracy. While in Fascism, the race does have superiority, but the state has the highest authority.

[New Libertarian States]

You aren't answering my questions.

Who gets to choose the elite to rule?
What if the elites are terrible?
What if they fuck up?

The strong, the elite, those born to rule. Not idiotic bourgeois only out for personal gain. But indeed real leaders.

They wont be. The incompetant masses need a leader thus they have light in the darkness.

They wont. The people will though.

What?I highly doubt any leader thought when they're were a child "I'm going to be a leader". How aren't fascist dictatorships bourgeois? In history, they've done shit all for the people.
So, they're incapable of fucking up? Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, and Stalinist Russia called. They want there bullshit back.
Source?

[Blasveck]

Democracy has the Majority Rule, the rule of the people. This of course sounds good but what if the majority decides to take away ones home , and business, and children? Obviously there has to be a limit. The flaw in Democracy is that the majority isn't restrained, if more then half the people can be persuaded to want something in a Democracy, they rule. But with Fascism there is no Majority rule, no rule of the people. The government power is 100%, total government. A Fascist government is authoritarian. With little to no freedom with Fascism, and much to all freedom with Democracy, both are very flawed and bad systems of government.

Everybody keeps saying that Democracy is the majority rule. Except that is direct democracy, which no nation operates their country with.

Seriously people. Please learn the differences.

[Libertarian California]

North Korea has elections?

Hitler was ideologically consistent with Fascism when it came to economics.

Yes they do, with one candidate on the list, and if you do not vote for him, you get executed.

Which isn't really an election. At least a not a free election.

[Northoslavia]

What movements are you even aware of?

Most neo-Nazi movements or authoritarian syndicalist movements. The ones that have stated views on economics say that they are in opposition to communism and capitalism.

Example: American Third Positionist Party, Golden Dawn, ect.

How is the Golden Dawn centrist? They are homophobic and believe in Greek superiority, in Greece.

[Libertarian California]

The line blurs when a fascist country starts conquering places, like Japan, Germany, and Italy did.

No, because in Nazism, the ruling race has complete Democracy. While in Fascism, the race does have superiority, but the state has the highest authority.

Hitler pretty much destroyed democracy with the Enabling Acts.

And pure Ayrans who opposed Hitler were severely punished.