Democracy vs. Fascism

[Libertarian California]

Implying that fascism is inherently right wing

Listen kid, do you even know the definition of Fascism? Maybe your fellow rednecks at the bar can tell you.

Yes, I'm aware of fascism. It's a system that combines both elements from the left and right, often mixing center-left economics with social conservatism.

I find it strange that you assume that I'm a redneck, or that I drink.

[God Kefka]

See you can't look at it that way...

Because they are mediocre/idiots the vast majority of people initiate protests for very bad or stupid reasons. So what they do is constraint the state's potential to improve people's lives in many cases.

Democracy's greatest weakness will always be that its subservient to the wishes of an incompetent majority.

You got a source that the majority of people are idiots and thus every bill that was passed should have not passed and vice versa?

No because right now it's politically incorrect to conduct such studies. But just turn on the TV and use a bit of observation... it is terribly obvious.

[Northoslavia]

Ah, you're a conservative.
I understand, it hurts you to see the truth.

I'm conservative?

''Libertarian''
Economic Left/Right: 6.12

[Northoslavia]

Listen kid, do you even know the definition of Fascism? Maybe your fellow rednecks at the bar can tell you.

Yes, I'm aware of fascism. It's a system that combines both elements from the left and right, often mixing center-left economics with social conservatism.

I find it strange that you assume that I'm a redneck, or that I drink.

Fascism: Far-Authoritarian and a Far-Right system.

[Libertarian California]

I'm conservative?

''Libertarian''
Economic Left/Right: 6.12

A conservative is one who wants to conserve something. What exactly do I wish to conserve?

[Pacifornia]

Fascism would be a good idea if it weren't for it's bad association with hatred for others different from you, fear tactics and corruption.

[Libertarian California]

Yes, I'm aware of fascism. It's a system that combines both elements from the left and right, often mixing center-left economics with social conservatism.

I find it strange that you assume that I'm a redneck, or that I drink.

Fascism: Far-Authoritarian and a Far-Right system.

Fascism is arguably in the authoritarian center.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#Po ... l_spectrum

[New Libertarian States]

You got a source that the majority of people are idiots and thus every bill that was passed should have not passed and vice versa?

No because right now it's politically incorrect to conduct such studies. But just turn on the TV and use a bit of observation... it is terribly obvious.

How is it politically incorrect?
Seriously, in any form of government, shit will be proposed. And usually, said shit will be shot down.A few bad policies get passed, but most are overall beneficial to the people.
Yes, most T.V is horrible (reality T.V, cartoons, etc)
Sometimes, the news is bad. Overall, I'd give the American news neutral to neutral good.

[Slafstopia]

Tell me, what happens if the ruling elite fuck up?

Trust me, that's much much less likely than the bootlicking/idiotic politicians the masses elect nowadays (who spend more effort worrying about winning the next election than actually doing their jobs right)...

A dictatorship of the qualified > leaders elected and constrained by the incompetent

I agree that representative democracy is bad.

But like any ideology, just because one variant sucks doesn't mean the ideology sucks.

[Blasveck]

Yes, I'm aware of fascism. It's a system that combines both elements from the left and right, often mixing center-left economics with social conservatism.

I find it strange that you assume that I'm a redneck, or that I drink.

Fascism: Far-Authoritarian and a Far-Right system.

Nazi Germany was definitely not economically right. They used Central Planning for God's sake.

[Northoslavia]

Fascism: Far-Authoritarian and a Far-Right system.

Fascism is arguably in the authoritarian center.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#Po ... l_spectrum

I don't care for how it is in the practice, the definition states Authoritarian and Right-Wing.

[Libertarian California]

Fascism: Far-Authoritarian and a Far-Right system.

Nazi Germany was definitely not economically right. They used Central Planning for God's sake.

Calling Mussolini a capitalist is laughable as well.

[The Misotheist Reich]

The weak, and feeble minded should be sheltered from politics. The majority of the population is an incomptent mess. Why not put the strong to lead the weak. The weak lead the weak in democracy. Both the men in power in a Democracy, and its people are slaves to a virtually wholly incomptent, materialistic, and selfish popoulation. In fascism the stong lead the weak. Democracy enslaves all to the wishes of a completly gulible, and incompetant population.

[Northoslavia]

Fascism: Far-Authoritarian and a Far-Right system.

Nazi Germany was definitely not economically right. They used Central Planning for God's sake.

Nazi Germany=NAZI. Nationalist-Socialist =/= Fascist

[Libertarian California]

Fascism is arguably in the authoritarian center.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#Po ... l_spectrum

I don't care for how it is in the practice, the definition states Authoritarian and Right-Wing.

Did you read the entire thing?

Want to know what the person who invented fascism had to say?

Benito Mussolini in 1919 described fascism as a movement that would strike "against the backwardness of the right and the destructiveness of the left"

[Murray land]

I support democracy, but in some countries people seem to support strongman governments because they think democracy moves to slow. For example there is famous quote that really shows how bad of shape Italy was in. Why did people like Mussolini and his party? Simple the trains ran on time. It isn't neccesarily that fascism is a bad thing it's just that it doesn't work. Democracy is corrupt but un like fascism it allows opposing points of view which to a degree curbs corruption democracy also implys that policy makers be voted in and out making corruption not as long running. (Unless its Chris Dodd)

[Nationalist Eminral Republic]

Fascism: Far-Authoritarian and a Far-Right system.

Nazi Germany was definitely not economically right. They used Central Planning for God's sake.

It really depends on what kind of fascism you are talking about. Nazi Germany is Nazism, a different one from Italian Fascism.

[Libertarian California]

Nazi Germany was definitely not economically right. They used Central Planning for God's sake.

Nazi Germany=NAZI. Nationalist-Socialist =/= Fascist

Nazi Germany took control (whether de jure or de facto) of all major corporations in the country. It was a command economy in the shadows. That's pretty much what fascism advocates.

[Blasveck]

Nazi Germany was definitely not economically right. They used Central Planning for God's sake.

Nazi Germany=NAZI. Nationalist-Socialist =/= Fascist

There's also the Democratic Republic of North Korea. Are they a Republic?
The Nazis used the name to garner support, AFAIK. Denying that Nazi Germany was fascist is like denying that Stalin was authoritarian.

[Murray land]

Yes, I'm aware of fascism. It's a system that combines both elements from the left and right, often mixing center-left economics with social conservatism.

I find it strange that you assume that I'm a redneck, or that I drink.

Fascism: Far-Authoritarian and a Far-Right system.

Yes because Mussolini never said he wanted Fascism to not be destructive like the left and backwards like the right. Fascism is just screwy plain and simple.

[Blasveck]

The weak, and feeble minded should be sheltered from politics. The majority of the population is an incomptent mess. Why not put the strong to lead the weak. The weak lead the weak in democracy. Both the men in power in a Democracy, and its people are slaves to a virtually wholly incomptent, materialistic, and selfish popoulation. In fascism the stong lead the weak. Democracy enslaves all to the wishes of a completly gulible, and incompetant population.

You aren't answering my questions.

Who gets to choose the elite to rule?
What if the elites are terrible?
What if they fuck up?

[Libertarian California]

Fascism: Far-Authoritarian and a Far-Right system.

Yes because Mussolini never said he wanted Fascism to not be destructive like the left and backwards like the right. Fascism is just screwy plain and simple.

Fascists are called 3rd Position for a reason ya know

[New Libertarian States]

The 1)week, and feeble minded should be sheltered from politics. The majority of the the populations is an 2)incomptent mess. Why not put the strong to lead the weak. The weak lead the weak in democracy. Both the men in power in a Democracy, and its people are slaves to a virtually wholly 3)incomptent, materialistic, and selfish 4)popoulation. In fascism the 5)stong lead the weak. Democracy enslaves all to the wishes of a 6)completly 7)gulible, and incompetant population.

1)Weak
2,3,8)Incompetent
4)Population
5)Strong
6)Completely
7)gullible
On your post:Source that the majority is incompetent?
No, the people lead the politicians, who sometimes cannot due everything they promise, boo hoo.
People electing their leaders, and not having them thrust upon them, is slavery?Could have fooled me.
No, the elite, who regularly fuck up and do bad things lead in Fascism.

[Nationalist Eminral Republic]

Nazi Germany=NAZI. Nationalist-Socialist =/= Fascist

There's also the Democratic Republic of North Korea. Are they a Republic?
The Nazis used the name to garner support, AFAIK. Denying that Nazi Germany was fascist is like denying that Stalin was authoritarian.

But there are differences between Nazism and Fascism. Nazism believes in racial superiority unlike Fascism, which believes in strong state for the advancement of the society.

[Northoslavia]

Nazi Germany=NAZI. Nationalist-Socialist =/= Fascist

There's also the Democratic Republic of North Korea. Are they a Republic?
The Nazis used the name to garner support, AFAIK. Denying that Nazi Germany was fascist is like denying that Stalin was authoritarian.

They have elections, don't they?

Hitler's ideology was Nazi, the practice of his ideology is irrelevant.