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Postby Need a Name » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:46 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
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I find this notion truly disturbing, that you place so little faith in humanity that you would place the put in the hands of the corruptible, ruling elite.

I know what is best for me. Not you, nor anyone else.


The people of this Earth are incompetent. Only a group of strong, able, and elite peope should have a say to guide the incomptent masses. People dont know what they want, they are constrained by free market chains in a world of greed, and selfishness.

You talk as if the "elite" are perfect.
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Postby New Libertarian States » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:47 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
I find this notion truly disturbing, that you place so little faith in humanity that you would place the put in the hands of the corruptible, ruling elite.

I know what is best for me. Not you, nor anyone else.


The people of this Earth are incompetent. Only a group of strong, able, and elite people should have a say to guide the incomptent masses. People dont know what they want, they are constrained by free market chains in a world of greed, and selfishness.

Power corrupts
Absolute power corrupts even more.
Yes, the people are stupid. But a damn good amount know when to say "We've had enough" and decide to protest.
And the elite won't make bad decisions?
What happens when the elite fuck up?
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by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

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Postby Slafstopia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:48 pm

The united empire of canada wrote:Democracy will fall and fascism and communism will rise hahahahahaha


Fascism is NOTHING like communism.
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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:49 pm

Genivaria wrote:Can you give me a society that is collectivist and nationalistic and at the same time values civil liberties and democracy?
If so I'd live there.


Some parts of revolutionary France back in the day, I'm guessing.
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Postby The Misotheist Reich » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:49 pm

Blasveck wrote:
The Misotheist Reich wrote:
The people of this Earth are incompetent. Only a group of strong, able, and elite people should have a say to guide the incomptent masses. People dont know what they want, they are constrained by free market chains in a world of greed, and selfishness.


And the few wont be constrained by "free market chains."

Tell me, have you heard of George Orwell?


Orwell? A man that is banned from my book shelf. The free market imprisons you with its ever changing trends, constant propaganda, and lies. People are incompetent they only follow the free market. They let it imprison them with senseless materialism, and idiotic roman law.
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Postby New Libertarian States » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:49 pm

Slafstopia wrote:
The united empire of canada wrote:Democracy will fall and fascism and communism will rise hahahahahaha


Fascism is NOTHING like communism.

*nods in agreement*
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:50 pm

Northoslavia wrote:Democracy is the dictatorship of the majority.
Fascism is the dictatorship of retards.
Hm...I don't see the difference...


Wow you're so smart.
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Postby God Kefka » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:50 pm

New Libertarian States wrote:
The Misotheist Reich wrote:
The people of this Earth are incompetent. Only a group of strong, able, and elite people should have a say to guide the incomptent masses. People dont know what they want, they are constrained by free market chains in a world of greed, and selfishness.

Power corrupts
Absolute power corrupts even more.
Yes, the people are stupid. But a damn good amount know when to say "We've had enough" and decide to protest.


See you can't look at it that way...

Because they are mediocre/idiots the vast majority of people initiate protests for very bad or stupid reasons. So what they do is constraint the state's potential to improve people's lives in many cases.

Democracy's greatest weakness will always be that its subservient to the wishes of an incompetent majority.
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Postby New Libertarian States » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:51 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
And the few wont be constrained by "free market chains."

Tell me, have you heard of George Orwell?


Orwell? A man that is banned from my book shelf. The free market imprisons you with its ever changing trends, constant propaganda, and lies. People are incompetent they only follow the free market. They let it imprison them with senseless materialism, and idiotic roman law.

The free market is shit, agreed.
But I'm rather confused how a economic ideal can write propaganda.
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

Literally a Horse
Not a Libertarian, just like the name.[benevolentthomas] horse is a defender leader in multiple region- whore organizations.
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Postby Northoslavia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:51 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Northoslavia wrote:Democracy is the dictatorship of the majority.
Fascism is the dictatorship of retards.
Hm...I don't see the difference...


Wow you're so smart.


Truth burns, doesn't it?

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Postby Blasveck » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:51 pm

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
And the few wont be constrained by "free market chains."

Tell me, have you heard of George Orwell?


Orwell? A man that is banned from my book shelf. The free market imprisons you with its ever changing trends, constant propaganda, and lies. People are incompetent they only follow the free market. They let it imprison them with senseless materialism, and idiotic roman law.


Tell me, what happens if the ruling elite fuck up?
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Postby God Kefka » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:52 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Northoslavia wrote:Democracy is the dictatorship of the majority.
Fascism is the dictatorship of retards.
Hm...I don't see the difference...


Wow you're so smart.


Democracy is the dictatorship of the majority mediocre and the incompetent masses.
Fascism is the dictatorship of retards strong, smart, and the qualified.

There... fixed
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Postby Northoslavia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:52 pm

God Kefka wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
Wow you're so smart.


Democracy is the dictatorship of the majority mediocre and the incompetent masses.
Fascism is the dictatorship of retards strong, smart, and the qualified.

There... fixed


right-wing idiots**

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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:52 pm

Northoslavia wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
Wow you're so smart.


Truth burns, doesn't it?


Dude no teenager who thinks he knows everything in life has ever said that before. This is so enlightening.
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Postby New Libertarian States » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:53 pm

God Kefka wrote:
New Libertarian States wrote:Power corrupts
Absolute power corrupts even more.
Yes, the people are stupid. But a damn good amount know when to say "We've had enough" and decide to protest.


See you can't look at it that way...

Because they are mediocre/idiots the vast majority of people initiate protests for very bad or stupid reasons. So what they do is constraint the state's potential to improve people's lives in many cases.

Democracy's greatest weakness will always be that its subservient to the wishes of an incompetent majority.

Yes, except, you know, almost every leader (dictator or president) is partially corrupt.
What happens when the elite fuck up?
What happens when no one in the elitist group knows what to do?
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

Literally a Horse
Not a Libertarian, just like the name.[benevolentthomas] horse is a defender leader in multiple region- whore organizations.
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Postby Slafstopia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:53 pm

God Kefka wrote:
New Libertarian States wrote:Power corrupts
Absolute power corrupts even more.
Yes, the people are stupid. But a damn good amount know when to say "We've had enough" and decide to protest.


See you can't look at it that way...

Because they are mediocre/idiots the vast majority of people initiate protests for very bad or stupid reasons. So what they do is constraint the state's potential to improve people's lives in many cases.

Democracy's greatest weakness will always be that its subservient to the wishes of an incompetent majority.


You got a source that the majority of people are idiots and thus every bill that was passed should have not passed and vice versa?
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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:53 pm

Northoslavia wrote:
God Kefka wrote:
Democracy is the dictatorship of the majority mediocre and the incompetent masses.
Fascism is the dictatorship of retards strong, smart, and the qualified.

There... fixed


right-wing idiots**


Implying that fascism is inherently right wing :palm:
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Postby New Libertarian States » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:54 pm

God Kefka wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
Wow you're so smart.


Democracy is the dictatorship of the majority mediocre and the incompetent masses.
Fascism is the dictatorship of retards strong, smart, and the qualified.

There... fixed

Or, you know, one is basically forced to do what the people want, good and bad.
The other can do whatever it wants, with no punishment.
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

Literally a Horse
Not a Libertarian, just like the name.[benevolentthomas] horse is a defender leader in multiple region- whore organizations.
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Postby God Kefka » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:54 pm

Blasveck wrote:
The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Orwell? A man that is banned from my book shelf. The free market imprisons you with its ever changing trends, constant propaganda, and lies. People are incompetent they only follow the free market. They let it imprison them with senseless materialism, and idiotic roman law.


Tell me, what happens if the ruling elite fuck up?


Trust me, that's much much less likely than the bootlicking/idiotic politicians the masses elect nowadays (who spend more effort worrying about winning the next election than actually doing their jobs right)...

A dictatorship of the qualified > leaders elected and constrained by the incompetent
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Postby Northoslavia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:54 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Northoslavia wrote:
Truth burns, doesn't it?


Dude no teenager who thinks he knows everything in life has ever said that before. This is so enlightening.


Ah, you're a conservative.
I understand, it hurts you to see the truth.

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Postby Blasveck » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:55 pm

God Kefka wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
Tell me, what happens if the ruling elite fuck up?


Trust me, that's much much less likely than the bootlicking/idiotic politicians the masses elect nowadays (who spend more effort worrying about winning the next election than actually doing their jobs right)...

A dictatorship of the qualified > leaders elected and constrained by the incompetent


And dictatorships have worked out SO well in the past.
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Postby Northoslavia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:55 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Northoslavia wrote:
right-wing idiots**


Implying that fascism is inherently right wing :palm:


Listen kid, do you even know the definition of Fascism? Maybe your fellow rednecks at the bar can tell you.

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Postby New Libertarian States » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:55 pm

God Kefka wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
Tell me, what happens if the ruling elite fuck up?


Trust me, that's much much less likely than the bootlicking/idiotic politicians the masses elect nowadays (who spend more effort worrying about winning the next election than actually doing their jobs right)...

A dictatorship of the qualified > leaders elected and constrained by the incompetent

Actually, they're worried about what the people want, not what keeps them in office.
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:56 pm

Northoslavia wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
Dude no teenager who thinks he knows everything in life has ever said that before. This is so enlightening.


Ah, you're a conservative.
I understand, it hurts you to see the truth.


I'm conservative? :rofl:
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Postby New Libertarian States » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:56 pm

Northoslavia wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
Implying that fascism is inherently right wing :palm:


Listen kid, do you even know the definition of Fascism? Maybe your fellow rednecks at the bar can tell you.

*cough*don't flame*cough*
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

Literally a Horse
Not a Libertarian, just like the name.[benevolentthomas] horse is a defender leader in multiple region- whore organizations.
23:07 Unibot If an article could have a sack of testicles - it would.

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