Democracy vs. Fascism

[Blasveck]

Are you talking about me?

Everyone who hates the State.

It's not about 'hating the State'.

It's about 'I know what's best for me, not the State'.

(I'm not an anarchist, just to clarify if you didn't know)

[The Misotheist Reich]

A Fascist oligarchy. The few rule the many. It is better than crazy one man dictatorships. It ensures a healthy state, and helps regulate the totalitarian system, and protect it from abuse by one instead of few.

And why is this better than a collective regime?

Its better because the state does not have to hesitate or dance around in order to take action. It is the brain of the organic body. Oligarchy ensures abuse of the totalitarian system by a one man can never happen. The Few not the one. One man can make mistakes, but 20 will not.

[Slafstopia]

And why is this better than a collective regime?

Its better because the state does not have to hesitate or dance around in order to take action. It is the brain of the organic body. Oligarchy ensures abuse of the totalitarian system by a one man can never happen. The Few not the one. One man can make mistakes, but 20 will not.

Logically, then, 100,000,000 people will have a 0.00000000000000000000001% mistake proportion.

[The Grey Wolf]

Everyone who hates the State.

It's not about 'hating the State'.

It's about 'I know what's best for me, not the State'.

(I'm not an anarchist, just to clarify if you didn't know)

You are the State, just as a cell in the body is part of the body.

[The Misotheist Reich]

Its better because the state does not have to hesitate or dance around in order to take action. It is the brain of the organic body. Oligarchy ensures abuse of the totalitarian system by a one man can never happen. The Few not the one. One man can make mistakes, but 20 will not.

Logically, then, 100,000,000 people will have a 0.00000000000000000000001% mistake proportion.

100,000, 000 people would be misguided, and purley incompetent. The few would have more knowledge.

[Blasveck]

It's not about 'hating the State'.

It's about 'I know what's best for me, not the State'.

(I'm not an anarchist, just to clarify if you didn't know)

You are the State, just as a cell in the body is part of the body.

Do you even understand what a State is?
Because unless you or I are politicians, we are not an inherent part of the state.

[Blasveck]

Logically, then, 100,000,000 people will have a 0.00000000000000000000001% mistake proportion.

100,000, 000 people would be misguided, and purley incompetent. The few would have more knowledge.

Fuck the few.
We got rid of monarchies for a reason.

[Slafstopia]

Logically, then, 100,000,000 people will have a 0.00000000000000000000001% mistake proportion.

100,000, 000 people would be misguided, and purley incompetent. The few would have more knowledge.

So what's wrong with a direct democracy that has no ballots or representatives? Without a convenient teat to suck, most of the uniformed would simply abstain.

[The Misotheist Reich]

100,000, 000 people would be misguided, and purley incompetent. The few would have more knowledge.

Fuck the few.
We got rid of monarchies for a reason.

Mono=\=Few. Mono= one. Monarchy= rule by one. Oligarchy= rule by the few.

[Blasveck]

Fuck the few.
We got rid of monarchies for a reason.

Mono=\=Few. Mono= one. Monarchy= rule by one. Oligarchy= rule by the few.

Fuck the few.

I know what's best for me. Not the State, Not the Nation, Not the few or the many.

[The Misotheist Reich]

100,000, 000 people would be misguided, and purley incompetent. The few would have more knowledge.

So what's wrong with a direct democracy that has no ballots or representatives? Without a convenient teat to suck, most of the uniformed would simply abstain.

Whats wrong is most people dont know what their doing. Direct democracy lets any idiot vote. Its a horrible system. The people dont know what they want.

[Slafstopia]

Fuck the few.
We got rid of monarchies for a reason.

Mono=\=Few. Mono= one. Monarchy= rule by one. Oligarchy= rule by the few.

Concepts aren't always practiced perfectly. England is a monarchy, and a democracy. And in the old days, with all the power of the barons, it was sort of an oligarchy.

[The Misotheist Reich]

Mono=\=Few. Mono= one. Monarchy= rule by one. Oligarchy= rule by the few.

Fuck the few.

I know what's best for me. Not the State, Not the Nation, Not the few or the many.

Really do you have the funding, the carrer, or the knowledge to begin making laws? If you dont, leave it up to the people that do.

[God Kefka]

The vast majority of people in any country are either mediocre or just complete idiots. More participation from them in the form of voting or decision-making is not desirable. You'll just get more stupid decisions, stupid leaders chosen... or smart leaders chosen but forced to carry out the self-destructive wishes of the majority.

To instill appropriate political participation you should instill a national spirit of unity and action with fascism through a charismatic and able dictator. Then you would have everything it in its place with a meritocracy.

The strong and the smart will lead without being constrained (by mechanisms such as elections) by the masses of the mediocre and the weak. The masses of incompetent people will be in their place: that of absolute obedience and fanatical servitude.

Flags, parades, speeches, rallies will spur the people into political participation such as they never have before... the real kind befitting the majority of the common people... joining the military, volunteering to build roads, hospitals, schools... educating tomorrow's generation, helping the community... all at the direction of the fascist state!

[Blasveck]

Fuck the few.

I know what's best for me. Not the State, Not the Nation, Not the few or the many.

Really do you have the funding, the carrer, or the knowledge to begin making laws? If you dont, leave it up to the people that do.

I could, if I truly wanted to.
(Which I kinda do)

Individuals know best how to live their lives, and spend their money.

The state does not.
And your idea of Central planning will fail as well.

[Slafstopia]

So what's wrong with a direct democracy that has no ballots or representatives? Without a convenient teat to suck, most of the uniformed would simply abstain.

Whats wrong is most people dont know what their doing. Direct democracy lets any idiot vote. Its a horrible system. The people dont know what they want.

A representative democracy lets anyone vote, too. A direct democracy removes the convenient teat of "THIS PERSON DOESN'T SAY GOD AS MUCH AS THE OTHER PERSON SO I SHALL FOLLOW HIM LIKE A DEITY" and other helpful distractions, and forces you to create an opinion. It's therefore superior.

[The Misotheist Reich]

The vast majority of people in any country are either mediocre or just complete idiots. More participation from them in the form of voting or decision-making is not desirable. You'll just get more stupid decisions, stupid leaders chosen... or smart leaders chosen but forced to carry out the self-destructive wishes of the majority.

To instill appropriate political participation you should instill a national spirit of unity and action with fascism through a charismatic and able dictator. Then you would have everything it in its place with a meritocracy.

The strong and the smart will lead without being constrained (by mechanisms such as elections) by the masses of the mediocre and the weak. The masses of incompetent people will be in their place: that of absolute obedience and fanatical servitude.

Flags, parades, speeches, rallies will spur the people into political participation such as they never have before... the real kind befitting the majority of the common people... joining the military, volunteering to build roads, hospitals, schools... educating tomorrow's generation, helping the community... all at the direction of the fascist state!

Thank you brother. I thought I was the only one here.

[Blasveck]

The vast majority of people in any country are either mediocre or just complete idiots. More participation from them in the form of voting or decision-making is not desirable. You'll just get more stupid decisions, stupid leaders chosen... or smart leaders chosen but forced to carry out the self-destructive wishes of the majority.

To instill appropriate political participation you should instill a national spirit of unity and action with fascism through a charismatic and able dictator. Then you would have everything it in its place with a meritocracy.

The strong and the smart will lead without being constrained (by mechanisms such as elections) by the masses of the mediocre and the weak. The masses of incompetent people will be in their place: that of absolute obedience and fanatical servitude.

Flags, parades, speeches, rallies will spur the people into political participation such as they never have before... the real kind befitting the majority of the common people... joining the military, volunteering to build roads, hospitals, schools... educating tomorrow's generation, helping the community... all at the direction of the fascist state!

I find this notion truly disturbing, that you place so little faith in humanity that you would place the put in the hands of the corruptible, ruling elite.

I know what is best for me. Not you, nor anyone else.

[God Kefka]

The vast majority of people in any country are either mediocre or just complete idiots. More participation from them in the form of voting or decision-making is not desirable. You'll just get more stupid decisions, stupid leaders chosen... or smart leaders chosen but forced to carry out the self-destructive wishes of the majority.

To instill appropriate political participation you should instill a national spirit of unity and action with fascism through a charismatic and able dictator. Then you would have everything it in its place with a meritocracy.

The strong and the smart will lead without being constrained (by mechanisms such as elections) by the masses of the mediocre and the weak. The masses of incompetent people will be in their place: that of absolute obedience and fanatical servitude.

Flags, parades, speeches, rallies will spur the people into political participation such as they never have before... the real kind befitting the majority of the common people... joining the military, volunteering to build roads, hospitals, schools... educating tomorrow's generation, helping the community... all at the direction of the fascist state!

I find this notion truly disturbing, that you place so little faith in humanity that you would place the put in the hands of the corruptible, ruling elite.

I know what is best for me. Not you, nor anyone else.

Maybe YOU do...

But the majority of people DON'T and need very firm direction (with the current system we are getting nothing done because of all the constraints placed by the mediocre).

[Libertarian California]

No, that creates a dictatorship.

Nationalism is all about national sovereignty, not admiring a dictator.

National solidarity is much more achievable with a dictator. I don't use the word because it is usually derogative, but I don't have a problem with it.

I said national sovereignty, not solidarity...

[The Misotheist Reich]

The vast majority of people in any country are either mediocre or just complete idiots. More participation from them in the form of voting or decision-making is not desirable. You'll just get more stupid decisions, stupid leaders chosen... or smart leaders chosen but forced to carry out the self-destructive wishes of the majority.

To instill appropriate political participation you should instill a national spirit of unity and action with fascism through a charismatic and able dictator. Then you would have everything it in its place with a meritocracy.

The strong and the smart will lead without being constrained (by mechanisms such as elections) by the masses of the mediocre and the weak. The masses of incompetent people will be in their place: that of absolute obedience and fanatical servitude.

Flags, parades, speeches, rallies will spur the people into political participation such as they never have before... the real kind befitting the majority of the common people... joining the military, volunteering to build roads, hospitals, schools... educating tomorrow's generation, helping the community... all at the direction of the fascist state!

I find this notion truly disturbing, that you place so little faith in humanity that you would place the put in the hands of the corruptible, ruling elite.

I know what is best for me. Not you, nor anyone else.

The people of this Earth are incompetent. Only a group of strong, able, and elite people should have a say to guide the incomptent masses. People dont know what they want, they are constrained by free market chains in a world of greed, and selfishness.

[Need a Name]

Since both Fascism and Democracy are fallible, neither should be used. But since man makes nothing perfect, we have to go with the lesser of the two evils. Which I believe is democracy.

[Northoslavia]

Democracy is the dictatorship of the majority.
Fascism is the dictatorship of retards.
Hm...I don't see the difference...

[The united empire of canada]

Democracy will fall and fascism and communism will rise hahahahahaha

[Blasveck]

I find this notion truly disturbing, that you place so little faith in humanity that you would place the put in the hands of the corruptible, ruling elite.

I know what is best for me. Not you, nor anyone else.

The people of this Earth are incompetent. Only a group of strong, able, and elite people should have a say to guide the incomptent masses. People dont know what they want, they are constrained by free market chains in a world of greed, and selfishness.

And the few wont be constrained by "free market chains."

Tell me, have you heard of George Orwell?